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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,448 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    All the best Brian!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,181 ✭✭✭healy1835


    Best of luck tomorrow morning mate.....hope the body holds up for you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,607 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    Best of luck tomorrow


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭Younganne


    Best of luck tomorrow, hope the calf behaves!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭laura_ac3


    Hope that calf is ok tomorrow, good luck.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    DNF. Ran out of energy, couldn't get restarted. I neglected to mention that I've had a cold for the last few days... plenty of time for the post-mortem, right now a beer sounds good :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,121 ✭✭✭tang1


    Singer wrote: »
    DNF. Ran out of energy, couldn't get restarted. I neglected to mention that I've had a cold for the last few days... plenty of time for the post-mortem, right now a beer sounds good :)

    Hard luck B, there's other marathons. Enjoy the beers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭hillsiderunner


    Singer wrote: »
    DNF. Ran out of energy, couldn't get restarted. I neglected to mention that I've had a cold for the last few days... plenty of time for the post-mortem, right now a beer sounds good :)

    Ah no :(. Have been tracking the Novices and saw you paused at 30k.

    Enjoy the beer! And hope the calf is alright.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Dubgal72


    Sounds like a wall encounter? Sorry to hear that B. See you shortly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭tailgunner


    Ah no, sorry to hear that. Was following on the tracker as well and hoped it was just a glitch or something. Enjoy the beer, you'll bounce back quickly I'm sure.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭denis b


    Was waiting at 20.4 mls and saw the 30km stop. Hoped it was a tech problem. Another day B. Enjoy the recovery this afternoon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭hot buttered scones


    Tough day, but you have a fantastic training block behind you. Get that injury sorted and live to fight another day. There's great things ahead for you, I have no doubt in that. Keep the faith.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,116 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    Agree with that, all that training isnt wasted and with the DNF the recovery wont take as long. Get the injuries sorted and go again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    So... the first race I've ever not-PBed and DNFed! Fun times! :)

    I might have slightly neglected to have informed avid followers of this log that I picked up a cold about 4 days ago. I was kind of in denial. It wasn't a "man-flu" by any means, just some minor sniffles and generally feeling lethargic and crappy. My last run on Thursday was quite phlegmy, and I felt pretty run down. A sore-er calf than usual made things worse on the day, but I put it down to taper syndrome and moved on.

    Thing was though, I didn't really move on. I was freaked out. I didn't really sleep much over the last few days - after midnight to 5 or so for the last few days. I was waking up involuntarily and worrying about the marathon. This level of negative obsession hasn't really happened before. I knew it wasn't healthy, but I didn't really feel in control of it and just let my nervous energy bleed out over social media / boards / etc.

    Come Sunday morning, I felt *relatively* good. I had a lot of nervous energy, but was genuinely feeling ok and focussed on the race. Getting to the race was idyllic - I got a taxi from Swords and watched an amazing sunrise from the motorway while chatting to the driver. Once in town I ended up having to get dressed in an alleyway (my office was meant to be open, but wasn't), and made my way towards the start. I had to queue for 30 minutes or so to take off my underwear underneath my racing shorts at the penultimate jacks before the start line. I got out of the jacks at 8.52 and made my way towards the front. I didn't get near the 3.10 pacers, who were very close to the 3.00 and 3.20 balloons. I was pretty sure it'd work itself out over the first mile or whatever so didn't really care.

    The start (7:30, 6:46, 7:12)

    Things were pretty exciting at the start, the crowds were great, the weather was amazing... and most importantly my calf wasn't very sore. I had a slight ache, but it wasn't getting worse and was barely worth thinking about. I skipped around a load of slowcoaches, made my way past the 3:20 pacers and said hello to TFGR before heading up towards Christchurch. Plunging down to the Liffey wasn't very comfortable, but I was nicely placed in between the pacer groups where I had wanted to be. I slowly made up ground to the 3:10 pacers over the next while, feeling comfortable.

    The park (6'57, 7'09, 7'10)

    Things were very busy entering the park and swinging around the zoo. I was glad to get out to Chesterfield where I could have a bit of room and enjoy the run a bit. Again, the support and weather was amazing. I caught up to the 3:10 pacers and settled into a slower pace to just stay behind them. This felt great! I waved at AMK as he made his way to his long run, skipped over the cobblestones on one of the roundabouts and felt like I'd survived most of the climb ok. I was feeling a little sweatier than expected, but nothing too bad.

    Up and down (7'22, 6'57, 7'11, 6'56)

    Heading up to Castleknock I took my first gel while imbibing the incredible support. I intended to take this easy... but in reality I kept the 3:10 pacers pretty close, maybe 20 metres or so off them. Once we rounded Myos I caught up with them a bit more, and I enjoyed the downhill here. Once in the park again I was struck by the amazing view of the park and city with the beautiful sun in the sky... The pacer's balloon burst here, to many groans from our group. I started to feel a bit of stiffness in my left leg on the way down, and a general feeling of working a little hard here. When exiting the park I felt a bit tired, and started to get a little worried.

    The wheels fall off (7'27, 9'19)

    Up into the southside... I took the two hills as slow as I could, but they both wrecked me. I walked after the second one and got my breath back. I got back into the pace, and did alright for a bit, meeting jake briefly and exchanging good wishes and tales of woe, but it didn't take long for me to need another rest. Once up the hill after Kilmainham I popped into one of the toilets and tried to get my **** together. 3:10 was clearly slipping away now, but I still wanted to keep going. I told myself to get to half way and see how things were then. I met the gal who I'd ran most of the 3/4 marathon with and ran with her for a minute, explained that I was in trouble and let her go ahead (she finished in 3:15).

    DNF-ing (7'51, ...)

    Right, one more go. I went over to the path and let myself have full recovery. It felt like hours, but was probably only a minute or two. The 3:20 group started to go on by, and I couldn't respond to the pace at all. I was done. My left leg started getting a little stiff, my stomach was starting to have a bit of a stitch and I was starting to hyperventilate a little... I went over half way with 1:37 on the clock. I figured I could run-walk the next 13.1 miles or so, and come in under a credible time (sub-4?) but it'd be a ****show. My head was gone, and my body was going. I didn't feel motivated to keep going at all - finishing up now and being able to get back running in a few days was more attractive than thrashing myself to finish a very below par marathon and possibly damaging my calf/cold/whatever. At the Crumlin hospital I strolled off the course and started walking down a very, very long road back into town. I tried to do a bit of jogging to keep warm, but it was really tough.

    DNFed

    It took me nearly an hour to get back into town. I chatted to a few folks on the way back in, spectators looking for the finish area. I took out the 20 euro that I'd pessimistically wrapped in clingfilm and tucked into my racing shorts and got a coffee at a garage on the canal. Once I reached the bag area a few 2:30/2:40 finishers were collecting their gear, and the bag person assumed I was one and congratulated me when I picked up my bag :(

    I rang my wife, and she was a bit upset to receive a call a good 15 minutes before I should be finishing. I met up with her and got a little emotional, and headed straight to McGrattan's. From there on it was a downward spiral of beer drinking and socialising... ignoring my terrible predicament I had a great time, chatting to many folks from these parts and slowly getting quite drunk. After feeling a little wobbly I got the good sense to finally go home.

    What went wrong?
    I was ill and tired, and tried to pretend I wasn't. It's incredibly clear from the HRM data that I wasn't in a good place starting off - I was at 170+ consistently from the start, which is where I got to *eventually* at the 3/4 marathon and got nowhere near in my last 22 mile run:
    https://www.strava.com/activities/760332565
    https://www.strava.com/activities/731842146
    https://www.strava.com/activities/739194241

    Maybe I should have copped on to the fact that I was in trouble sooner. I'm not sure that if I'd slowed down to, say, 3:20 pace sooner that I'd have run a good marathon from then. That said, in retrospect I probably should have not gone for the YOLO approach and run a more appropriate pace - easy to say now though!

    I'm glad I didn't thrash myself. I left the course in one piece and not hating running. I'll probably take a few days off to make sure the damn calf heals itself and then get back into somewhat structured running. Thanks all for the support before, during and after, it's really appreciated. Today could have been a lot worse, and I stopped it before it got too bad. I guess that's not a bad day. Still kind of heartbreaking though :(

    Splits:
    10k - 44:29
    13.1 - 1:37:08


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,376 ✭✭✭diego_b


    Sorry it didn't go to plan B, glad that you already seem to have a good perspective on what must have been very hard to take.
    You were in great spirits in McGrattans in fairness to you.

    Best wishes for your recovery which I suspect with DNF should be pretty quick, you'll be motoring very soon once that calf is right and the cold has proper left your body. Maybe you could line up a 10K/half or some nice distance like that to have a blast at next month, you had a huge bank of training done for this and would get a fine return I suspect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,121 ✭✭✭tang1


    Hard luck B, if you had been fully fit you were my banker from Boards to hit there goal time. Take the appropriate time off to let the calf recover and go again. You done the smart thing in pulling the plug on it, could have done yourself serious harm. Barcelona is nice in March I believe!!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    Date|Distance|Pace|Notes
    24th October|5.3 miles|9'16|Deliberately truncated run commute, hopped on the bus.
    26th October|5.1 miles|7'51|Another truncated run commute. Meant to do a few at MP, but the uphill, wind and bag meant I put in the effort but didn't hit the pace - not a problem. I met aquinn on the way and had a nice chat!
    27th October|4.1 miles|9'13|Awful run. Feeling like I was coming down with a cold, my calf was very sore and I felt like crap. I put it down to taper syndrome :)
    30th October|15.1 miles|?|Previously reported DCM disaster, and some laughable attempts at jogging back into town.


    Total: 29.7 miles

    October total: 206 miles

    Next week: A little bit of rest to make sure the calf is still on the mend, and getting over this cold.

    Next: I'm attending a conference in Vegas at the end of the month that has a 5k as part of the entertainment, so planning to give that a good go for the novelty factor. A spring marathon is back in my thoughts!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    tang1 wrote: »
    Hard luck B, if you had been fully fit you were my banker from Boards to hit there goal time. Take the appropriate time off to let the calf recover and go again. You done the smart thing in pulling the plug on it, could have done yourself serious harm. Barcelona is nice in March I believe!!!!

    Thanks! Definitely no regrets for pulling the plug. Barcelona was mentioned a few times in the pub alright :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    Unlucky. Not your day. The marathon is a beast and will expose any weakness on the day. Isn't that what we love about it?

    Good luck in Vegas (in the 5k :pac: )!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭Chartsengrafs


    Sorry to hear it Singer, it sounds like there was little you could do under the circumstances. Onto the next one.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭spaceylou


    Was sorry to hear you hadn't finished BUT taking a more long term view you absolutely did the right thing. There will be other marathons and better to not wreck yourself when you have an injury and are under the weather. Enjoy a few days rest, mind the calf, get rid of the cold and ease back into it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭jake1970


    It just wasn't your day B and pulling the plug was probably a difficult decision but a wise one. There will be more marathons for you and without doubt there will be many successful marathons.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭Mrs Mc


    Bummer B fair play to you for taking the decision to pull out. Good to catch up with you in Mc Grattans afterwards. Onwards and upwards. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    thats a pity, but the right decision made. At least you dont have DOMS today :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭martyboy48


    As others said, good call on pulling the plug. I would should have done the same if only I knew where the fook I was :D

    Are you going to wait for spring for your next marathon or any interest in a low key one a bit sooner when the calf and cold are healed, maybe EOI one?? Just a thought..

    Recover well and good luck in Vegas :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 366 ✭✭Battery Kinzie


    Sorry to hear that. I saw (I think it was) you at around mile 13. Looked well then, but saw you drop off the tracker and figured it had gone bad.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,181 ✭✭✭healy1835


    Sorry to read that report mate. Your super training is still in the tank. Take a little while, get healthy and then choose the next target race


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭This Fat Girl Runs


    On my way to mile 25 to cheer I met a runner from Youghal who had pulled out also, so you're not alone. Like I said to you in the pub (and everyone else is saying here) you made the smart choice. It takes courage to make that decision and it's a good lesson for me too; finishing isn't everything. I've no doubts you'll run more marathons and I'll be following your log and cheering you on as you do.


  • Registered Users Posts: 701 ✭✭✭PaulieYifter


    Never regret things you do - only things you don't do.

    Look - unfortunately you picked up a niggle that wouldn't go away at just the wrong time. A couple of weeks sooner and you would have had time to get some confidence boosting runs back in the bank.

    The hardest thing about marathons is getting to the start line in proper shape.

    For future reference, catching a cold, missing sleep, etc. - this is something that will probably happen again but don't let that put you off - I've run plenty of marathons sucking lockets and drinking lemsip and not sleeping in the days beforehand.

    But when you have that along with no real running for a couple of weeks then everything will likely go to pot.

    The high HR at your target pace told you that things weren't right on the day.

    You will recover quick enough but don't go hastily making plans for the next marathon cycle yet - the spring marathons seem to come around very quick with Christmas and all in there so tempting and all as Barcelona is don't force it.

    Enjoy the Vegas run for now - get 3 or 4 weeks running with no niggles done and then start making plans.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭Younganne


    Great advice there from PaulieYifter . Sorry it didn't work out on the day. Enjoy Vegas.


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