Ian O'Doherty

riffmongous wrote: »

Did he have a go at boards once in one of his articles or was that someone else?

He quoted part of a post I made about occupy Wall Street in his column once, selecting the bits to make his point ignoring the others that went against it. Total spoofer.

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Unfortunately mainstream modern media likes trollery dressed up as journalism now more than ever. It's clickbait. The more outrageous it is the more clicks it gets. Editors love more clicks cause it means they can claim higher readership to advertisers. It's disgusting, gutter "journalism" and particularly revels in attacking minorities or vulnerable people. It does need to continuously be challenged in various ways though whether that be pointing out the flawed arguments or using the weak press complaints mechanisms. Myers and O'Doherty have both been pulled up on their extreme hate speech rhetoric by the Press regulators.

What so you would prefer I fully liberal left/Irish times style journalism? We need more journalists like Myers & O'Doherty to give alternative opinions on what's presented in the media, it might not tie in with your view of the world but we live in a western democracy at the moment where free speech is still allowed!

NachoBusiness wrote: »

Clickbait now seems to equal: 'opinion pieces that I don't agree with'.

Click bait
(on the Internet) content, especially that of a sensational or provocative nature, whose main purpose is to attract attention and draw visitors to a particular web page.

Take a look at the independent app it's at least 50% "what this gay blind dog did next will change your opinion of humanity" type stories.

*slight exaggeration but not far off.

Menas wrote: »

There was an Iain O'Doherty in my class in school...he as all right like, but he left early to work in a pig factory and was illiterate. Dont think it is the same fella.

Jasus, I thought pigs grew from piglets. Didn't realise that they're factory made

The man was not a star pupil at Templeogue College.In fact he was one of the weakest students in his school year.

Folk should bear that in mind when reading the drivel he writes and the drivel he spouts.

I just find it incredibly hard to believe that people actually disagree with many things that he says.

He condemns the fact that Saudi Arabia can have the audacity to lecture Ireland on human rights when its own record is so remarkably poor in comparison.

He condemns how Ayaan Hirsi Ali, someone who speaks the truth, was subjected to a moderator at a debate in Ireland, while Anjem Choudhary, someone who supports the death of homosexuals, was allowed to speak freely.

He condemns how Saudi Arabia offer no aid to Europe to house migrants, but offers money to build mosques in Europe for them instead.

He condemns the attempt by Ali Selim to ban percussion instruments in primary schools because it offends Muslims.

He condemns how Saudi Arabia, among other countries, marched in the Charlie Hebdo parade while it lashed Raif Badawi for the temerity to criticise the regime.

Are there any of these that you would not also condemn? Because they all seem pretty black and white to me. And if you can't condemn these, then you can't simply dismiss O'Doherty as a lunatic bigot.

osarusan wrote: »

If anybody wants to see just how truly woeful a writer and argument-builder he is, just read this:

http://www.citywide.ie/download/pdf/sterilising_junkies_may_seem_harsh_18_feb_2011_2.pdf

Why nothing at all wrong with what he is saying, junkie scum should be sterilised. Obviously you and Nodin haven't spent any time in Dublin city centre!

He write,s opinion pieces on what he thinks is funny,
or annoying , he,s anti political correctness .
Everything should be up for debate or criticism.
And he s very funny.
Saudia arabia is a very repressive country,
it sends people to jail who speak out and support human rights and free speech.
WE need more writers like him.

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

He condemns women for discussing their abortions

So he holds pro-life views. This is a common view in Ireland.

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

He condemns Irish people who show compassion towards refugees

He makes the point that Europe cannot take in the population of the Middle East. If we take in millions of refugees, millions more will arrive within a month. There simply isn't room. Again, in cold logic, this is patently true.

I do not have a solution to the migrant crisis myself, but I still know that the proposed solution won't work.

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

He condemns people with an uncontrollable disease

What disease are you talking about here?

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

He condemns positive campaigns as shrill and hysterical

Do you mean the campaign for gay marriage? He voted Yes. He also made the point that while he voted Yes, some of the behaviour of the Yes side was shameful, such as decrying anyone who voted No as a bigot and a homophobe, and defacing or destroying No posters. Which I would agree with.

You are free to believe that the above about the No side is true, but that would mean that you believe ~40% of Irish people are bigots and homophobes. Do you?

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

He condemns Irish people, gay people, trans people, drug addicts, women, men, people with disabilities, human rights organisations, travellers, roma, refugees, politicians, muslims, catholics, pro life people, pro choice people, people who use twitter etc etc etc etc etc etc

A lot of these are blanket accusations - it must be difficult to condemn both men and women. Unless you have a specific quarrel with a specific condemnation, this doesn't hold much water.

If I was assuming, I would make the assumption that his LGBT comments stung you, since you're a moderator of that forum and likely closely linked with the movement, and that your opinion of I'OD is somewhat compromised by this. But I am only assuming.