What about moving the Dublin Footballers to Ulster

Better idea to split Dublin in two natural enemies North and South?. Dublin has thousands of players and that's why they are dominating, how many players have say Carlow to choose form?

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

It would give an even number of counties in both leinster and ulster.
Also it would even up leinster take Dublin out of leinster and suddenly it is way more competitive.
Dublin fans would not have to see other leinster teams be demoralized and hammered.
There would be a huge buzz and entertainment throughout the season, Dublin supporters would not have to wait until August before they get a decent game.
Dublin may get knocked out very early and have to go the qualifier route, huge boost for the economy outside Dublin.


I know it will probably never happen but it would be some craic.:eek:

There is no reason to think that Leinster would suddenly become way more comptetive. A look at the Roll of Honour will show that Dublin and Meath have always dominated with only an occasional incursion from other counties in the last 30 years. Who would suddenly emerge from the perennial also rans?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leinster_Senior_Football_Championship#Roll_of_honour

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Meath are not the same animal like they were in the 80's and 90's.
I think if you take Dublin out of leinster it would be very even between Kildare, Meath and Wexford. Throw in Laois/Louth for the odd final appearance and it becomes very interesting.

Carlow and Wicklow would have a lot more chance of appearing in a final if Dublin were taken out and they happened to be in the eaasier side of the draw avoiding Kildare/Meath. Imagine what it would mean to those counties. I remember how devastated Louth were when they were robbed in the final v Meath in 2010.

I don't think there is an argument for trying to make things more equal in Leinster unless you also make them more equal in Munster and Connacht. Where most counties are also perennial losers. Kerry have far more Munsters than Dublin have Leinsters. The obvious change would be 4 x 8 by moving a few counties into their neighbouring province but this would make things even easier for Dublin.

thoker wrote: »

Better idea to split Dublin in two natural enemies North and South?. Dublin has thousands of players and that's why they are dominating, how many players have say Carlow to choose form?

Did i ****ing miss something.

sammy37 wrote: »

Also if kerry and cork were moved to connaught with leitrim and sligo moving to munster along with antrim going to leinster. Down could go down to munster and meath back over to connaught. That should even up all the provinces and we would then have a proper provincial championship.

Radical.

Sure why not move Roscommon footballers to Leinster and Cork hurlers to Leinster. Am I doing this right..?

Even if the hypothetical situation did arrive, Dublin would still end up playing all their games in Croker...

In 3/4 of the country the provinces are broken as there is one clearly dominant force that will essentially cruise through. The thing is, they're still going to be there at the business end of the season regardless of structural changes. Hypothetically speaking in order to even up the provinces, you could just disband Ulster and scatter them throughout the other three competitions. (and i'm not saying i'm in favor of this, just thinking out loud)

Mal-Adjusted wrote: »

In 3/4 of the country the provinces are broken as there is one clearly dominant force that will essentially cruise through (2 in Munster). The thing is, they're still going to be there at the business end of the season regardless of structural changes. Hypothetically speaking in order to even up the provinces, you could just disband Ulster and scatter them throughout the other three competitions. (and i'm not saying i'm in favor of this, just thinking out loud)

Just a small point of correction, but it doesn't really matter since as you say this is a pointless discussion.

The two horse race is really in Connacht where both Mayo and Galway have more provincial championships than Cork have in Munster. Galway also have more All Irelands than Cork 9 against 7. Meath also have 7. Cork are not really a force in historical terms compared to Kerry and Dublin.

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

In hurling they have already moved Antrim and Galway into leinster so I fail to see how you seem to think this is far fetched.

The situation in hurling was completely different. Galway and Antrim basically had no provincial championship to compete in at all. The benefits of letting them play in Leinster were a no brainer.

In football the only logical changes I can see being made to the provincials would be to either make the provinces even numbers or to do away with them altogether. Suggesting moving Dublin into Ulster is in my opinion not only illogical and ridiculous, it is an insult to the other remaining Leinster counties

Pipjam wrote: »

Have Mayo or Kerry only lost one competitive game in their province in the last decade? The poster above is right. I'm from Leinster myself and the standard apart from Dublin is embarrassing.

If someone looked at Leinster from 1974 to 1985 they would see a very similar thing. Dublin won 9 out of those 12 and only failed to make the final in one of those years. They also won 6 in a row which the teams of the last 10 years have not done. I would give it another 10 years to see what develops. It won't be the end of the world if Leinster becomes a one team province. It really has always been Dublin with Meath lagging far behind and the rest perennial also rans anyway.

The theory that Dublin are some now sort of super team was knocked on the head by Donegal. Don't assume that their recent dominance in Leinster will necessarily continue.

freddiek wrote: »

I'd like to see the back of the Provincial football championships. Even in Ulster Donegal are now forging ahead.


Anyone think its days are numbered??

Cavan won 17 out of 19 Ulsters from 1931 to 1949. But that didn't lead to the championship being abandoned and other teams emerged since. Two big teams have always dominated in the other three provinces. There is nothing new in recent times compared to the longer view so I doubt the format will be abandoned.