The largest ethnic cleansing in 60+ years in taking place today in Iraq

I Heart Internet · 07-08-2014 2:52pm #1

Islamic terrorists are rampaging through northern Iraq expelling, under threat of death, Christians who have been living there for nearly 2,000 years and Yazidis who have been there for perhaps 4,000 years!

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28686998

A majority of Nineveh inhabitants left their homes overnight, according to Fraternite en Irak, an international
Christian organisation based in Paris.

As many as 100,000 people are believed to be fleeing toward the autonomous Kurdistan Region.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/middle-east/almost-200-000-flee-iraqi-town-captured-by-islamic-state-1.1890132

The militants’ capture of the town of Sinjar, ancestral home of the Yazidi ethnic minority, prompted tens of thousands of people to flee to surrounding mountains, where they are at risk of starvation.

What can/should Ireland do about it?

Awkward Badger · 07-08-2014 2:56pm

I Heart Internet wrote: »

What can/should Ireland do about it?

I doubt there is much we can do tbh other than support any UN attempt to hold ISIS accountable for their crimes or potential UN involvement in protecting innocent people.

h2005 · 07-08-2014 2:59pm

The average Iraqi must be delighted that the US freed them from tyranny.

Bio Mech · 07-08-2014 3:00pm

I Heart Internet wrote: »

Christians who have been living there for nearly 2,000 years and Yazidis who have been there for perhaps 4,000 years!

Wow that is old. I thought the oldest person in the world was 120 years or so. Shows what I know.

Bog Standard User · 07-08-2014 3:02pm

lol i wonder how butthurt those islamists would be if the rest of the christian world expelled muslims from their countries??

Harry Palmr · 07-08-2014 3:02pm

ISIS, Boko Haram, Islamic Jihad, Hamas, Ansar al-Sharia and a dozen more of these groups out there. Give them an inch....you'd nearly yearn for the good old, bad old days of military dictatorships.

Sure they'd kill loads and repress millions but they kept the religious nutters at bay.

Mr.McLovin · 07-08-2014 3:02pm

I hope Blair and Bush cant sleep at night

Xios · 07-08-2014 3:04pm

h2005 wrote: »

The average Iraqi must be delighted that the US freed them from tyranny.

Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

In simple terms, The U.S. left Iraq in state that made the nation instable, however the region has been unstable since the foundation of Iran, Syria and Iraq. The region was kept stable under brutal tyranny, but now that the dictators time is up, the region is decending into chaos.

Hopefully it'll find a balance, when the Kurds get their own nation and borders get redefined. But until then it'll be a massive massive clusterfook.

On top of this, the large international powers keep meddling in Middle East affairs to force this sort of chaos on the region to increase revenue from oil and weapons. Namely, EU, U.S. and Russia. /conspiracy

solomafioso · 07-08-2014 3:04pm

Ah sure remember The Crusades?

Glock Lesnar · 07-08-2014 3:08pm

I am Irish and therefore the only thing I care about is the Palestinians

fedor.2. · 07-08-2014 3:11pm

Do the militants export any fruit and veg, by any chance?

porsche959 · 07-08-2014 3:12pm

h2005 wrote: »

The average Iraqi must be delighted that the US freed them from tyranny.

Blair/Bush war was obviously a disaster, but we're in 2014 not 2003.

h2005 · 07-08-2014 3:13pm

porsche959 wrote: »

Blair/Bush war was obviously a disaster, but we're in 2014 not 2003.

You're right there's obviously no correlation.

iDave · 07-08-2014 3:15pm

What can be done?
Any military intervention would be seen as US imperialism and probably claim even more lives.
Good to see Islam being its peaceful self once again though

porsche959 · 07-08-2014 3:16pm

h2005 wrote: »

You're right there's obviously no correlation.

Is correlation very probably, what precisely this does for those being massacred by ISIS I am not sure.

But hey, this is boards.ie, the Irish are a nation of competitive what abouters, so fair enough.

Red Pepper · 07-08-2014 3:17pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

ISIS, Boko Haram, Islamic Jihad, Hamas, Ansar al-Sharia and a dozen more of these groups out there. Give them an inch....you'd nearly yearn for the good old, bad old days of military dictatorships.

Sure they'd kill loads and repress millions but they kept the religious nutters at bay.

:rolleyes: Maybe just maybe there is a happy medium?

porsche959 · 07-08-2014 3:18pm

iDave wrote: »

Good to see Islam being its peaceful self once again though

Try criticising Islam in the Israel-Palestine thread, they'll say you're a colonalist fanatic, in Mossad, etc.

Glock Lesnar · 07-08-2014 3:19pm

Red Pepper wrote: »

:rolleyes: Maybe just maybe there is a happy medium?

There is, but right now it's only possible in your head.

Maybe if Smyth's stop supplying the ISIS action figure line we might see some peace

iDave · 07-08-2014 3:20pm

porsche959 wrote: »

Try criticising Islam in the Israel-Palestine thread, they'll say you're a colonalist fanatic, in Mossad, etc.

For my sanity I'll avoid that abortion of a thread.

porsche959 · 07-08-2014 3:21pm

Glock Lesnar wrote: »

Maybe if Smyth's stop supplying the ISIS action figure line we might see some peace

If Israel stopped "genociding" the Palestinians, peace would miraculously break out all across the Middle East.

Kumbaya!

suicide_circus · 07-08-2014 3:23pm

Medieval backward coonts

jimgoose · 07-08-2014 3:24pm

porsche959 wrote: »

If Israel stopped "genociding" the Palestinians, peace would miraculously break out all across the Middle East.

Kumbaya!

We really need to start redirecting some of that healthy, productive xenophobia in the direction of these here ISIS blokey-chaps. That would help.

wes · 07-08-2014 3:25pm

So you post the folllowing:

porsche959 wrote: »

But hey, this is boards.ie, the Irish are a nation of competitive what abouters, so fair enough.

And then do exactly that with your criticism others on the basis of what there saying on another topic......

porsche959 wrote: »

If Israel stopped "genociding" the Palestinians, peace would miraculously break out all across the Middle East.

Kumbaya!

Its profoundly sad that you have chosen to use this thread as a way to have a go at people about stuff that there posting on another thread, as opposed to you know discussing the actual topic. Disgusting thing to do imho. You seem more concerned in having a go at other posters, and supporting another group of violent murders instead. Hypocrisy at its worst imho.

As for ISIS, the best thing to do is support the Kurdish Peshmerga, so they can defeat ISIS, and then provide Humanitarian assistance via the Kurdish region. This may cause some issues with Turkey, but ultimately eliminating ISIS is in there own best interest as well, as they will attack Turkey and anyone else, when they get the chance. Humanitarian aid needs to be provide to Yazidi people, otherwise there will be a humanitarian disaster.

Smiles35 · 07-08-2014 3:28pm

porsche959 wrote: »

If Israel stopped "genociding" the Palestinians, peace would miraculously break out all across the Middle East.

Kumbaya!

Judaism has had a huge affect on our culture up here princess. So, so, so sorry we cant get yous off our minds. Hey, we'll try and be born near a dry area with paper next time?

porsche959 · 07-08-2014 3:29pm

wes wrote: »

Its profoundly sad that you have chosen to use this thread as a way to have a go at people about stuff that there posting on another thread, as opposed to you know discussing the actual topic. Disgusting thing to do imho. You seem more concerned in having a go at other posters, and supporting another group of violent murders instead.

This is After Hours, mate. Why the **** are these kinds of threads even allowed on here, including this one. There is a politics section on this board, no?

But the other thread is being hi-jacked by fanatics, professional ranters and internet bullies. Which is why many stay clear of it, understandably.

wes wrote: »

do is support the Kurdish Peshmerga, so they can defeat ISIS, and then provide Humanitarian assistance via the Kurdish region. This may cause some issues with Turkey, but ultimately eliminating ISIS is in there own best interest as well, as they will attack Turkey and anyone else, when they get the chance.

Agree here.

Skylinehead · 07-08-2014 3:31pm

60 years? Rwanda not come to mind? Cambodia?

mad muffin · 07-08-2014 3:32pm

I've seen some of the videos on YouTube and photos of what they are doing to Christians and moderate Muslims, anyone who defies them or stands up to them is beheaded in the most horrific way. They even beheaded a little Christian girl.

Then they display the heads in the town square and crucify the dead bodies. Just the most horrific middle age kind of stuff.

If they have one redeeming feature. Is that they've outlawed smoking.

JC01 · 07-08-2014 3:33pm

I Heart Internet wrote: »

What can/should Ireland do about it?

Absolutly frig all, maybe have a protest or two but then again most of those types are busy protesting against Israel at the minute.

What "should" we do is a whole different question, in a simpleidealistic world NATO would rapidly pass a motion to have fully mobilised peacekeepers on the ground within days. In reality the West has done so much damage to that area at this stage I dont see what can really be done that wont just make ths situation worse. In any case we all know all that'll happen is plenty of people/organisations "Calling" for this that and the other and toss all being done bar innocents dying whilst running for their lives.

I Heart Internet · 07-08-2014 3:34pm

porsche959 wrote: »

This is After Hours, mate. Why the **** are these kinds of threads even allowed on here, including this one. There is a politics section on this board, no?

I didn't think it was suitable for the politics thread. It is a humanitarian disaster.

France has offered all displaced Christians in Iraq asylum - that is not an ideal solution as it effectively acknowledges the end of two millennia of Christian culture in northern Iraq. It also forgets about the Yazadi people, who are also in grave peril.

Herb Powell · 07-08-2014 3:35pm

Absolute madness what's going on there. Anyone know exactly how big a group ISIS is? They seem to be making quite an impact. The sooner these militant groups stop getting outside funding, the better. It makes me really sad reading about it, because I know all of these Middle Eastern places could have been, and would be wonderful if it wasn't for geopolitical dick-swinging. The poor people living there

:mad:

Not sure exactly what Ireland can do, but this thread seems to be a not-so-subtle dig at people supporting Palestine, so I doubt that even justifies a proper response. Grow the fucck up.

Grayson · 07-08-2014 3:37pm

porsche959 wrote: »

Try criticising Islam in the Israel-Palestine thread, they'll say you're a colonalist fanatic, in Mossad, etc.

You should try taking the displacement of tens of thousands of people and using it to score cheap points on a discussion forum.

wait, you did that. you win.

The largest ethnic cleansing in 60+ years in taking place today in Iraq

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