Mazda 3 2.2 150bhp

The 2.2 is a turbodiesel, isn't it? Good bitta kit them, and I'd imagine they'd be quite decent on fuel. Hard to say about the insurance - give them a bell, you might just be pleasantly surprised.

They are reportedly on the expensive side for their sector of the market the bigger 6 is the same - forget the exact figures.

So id be pricing up some of the opposition cars tbh

Didn't they drop the 1.6d PSA unit from this model?

Drove a demo recently. Nice and "light" to drive. It felt very surefooted but not heavy and lethargic when it came to changing direction. Dash was a bit higgildy-piggildy and a bit too black but well equipped. I don't like the seats as I couldn't get the driving position spot on for me.

Seat Leon FR? Similar size, price and spec. Can be had with a slightly more powerful 184PS version as well as the 150. Doesn't look as nice as the 3 though.

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

AFAIK it has the same skyactiv engine as the cx5, which reportedly suffers from the same diesel in sump issues that have plagued previous Mazda diesel engines.

Lovely looking cars though.

I haven't heard of the new 2.2 giving any such trouble in the CX5 and I've been researching them heavily for family at the minute. The only one I came across was in Oz and it turned out to be badly calibrated dipsticks.

ba_barabus wrote: »

There was a recall issued in Oz for the dipsticks. As said I researched a lot but found nothing concrete regarding the oil levels rising.

Not exactly concrete I know but given Mazda's efforts in the CR diesel department over the past ten years I wouldn't be one bit surprised if this engine also turned out to be the same.

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=102168

Found this

http://www.dieselcarmagazine.co.uk/features/doctor/cx-5-updates/

Apparently - they've released a software update as well to "address the DPF regeneration issues"

Given the fact they've had this issue - wouldn't you think Mazda would have checked, double checked, fixed, double checked again this issue BEFORE releasing the cars the market.

Still don't know how common this is though

Btw above link also mentions an issue with a sensor failing????

MuppetCheck wrote: »

Jesus, I can't comprehend how they've messed up the new engine given the importance of that market to the balance sheet.

Stop the lights - Old diesel in a lets call for a balanced look rather then get the boot in at Mazda diesel reliability statement :D:D - Tea 1000 would spill his tea with the shock

Yes some have had issues - from reading it it appeared the worst affected were early ones.

It seems to be a lot of AUSTRALIAN spec cars that are reporting the issues - did Oz get the CX 5 before Europe????.

The buyers guide I mentioned earlier - STILL RECKONED the CX 5 was a very reliable car - they noted the issue as something that had cropped up - and thus watch out for but doubt they would say it was very reliable if it was happening left right and centre.

What id like to know is what UK forums are saying about it because - ba_barabus says hes done a lot of research and not found much evidence - and IF it were me - id be inclined to look towards Uk forums for info rather then US or Oz forums.

In relation to the link I published earlier today - I think the guy in the magazine alluded to the fact that the owner was in subsequent contact to say the car wasn't doing the raising oil thing anymore (ie it was fixed???).

I also find the fact that ROR notes that early versions of the new 6 have been trouble free is interesting.

Mind you I am indulging in a big of wishful thinking with the above I think - clutching at straws you might call it :eek:

In addition - there may will be lots of Skyactive diesels out there that are giving no issue with raising oil issues or anything else for that matter - we don't get to hear about those if they are out there - because their owners will just consider - RIGHTLY - that the cars are doing no more then what they expected. You will always hear of the bothersome ones.

Would be interested to know of actual owner experiences here in Ireland - friends/family etc

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

The new Mazda 6 is only out a very short period of time so I wouldn't read too much into it's reliability yet. The 2.2 skyactiv that's fitted to it though is suppose to be the same unit fitted to the CX5 for which there are reports of oil rise issues, a problem that has been prevalent in previous generations of Mazda's CR diesel units.

You'd think that they must have fixed what is a well know problem at this stage but then again Mazdas have also been plaqued with rust problems for many years with even relatively new cars developing rust, this is despite many complaints in the U.S and Canada. Poor rust protection effected cars right up to the last generation of Mazda's. Obviously it is still unclear yet weather the new models are any better in this regard.

All good points - but given the internets ability to deliver only the horror stories - I wonder just what is the true reality of Skyactive reliability.

there is no doubt that older Mazda diesels were a bit of a disaster - and yes - youd actually think that having had the issue before - top of the to do list with Skyactive would be - make sure to bloody design the things so the DPF design wont cause raising oil levels.

I think someone in Mazda is trying to be FAR TOO CLEVER with this new technology rather then simply getting it right for the customer

I thought Anan1 closed his account

Ardennes1944 wrote: »

I thought Anan1 closed his account

A quick search says it's not closed, but no posts since March.

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

The 2.2 skyactiv that's fitted to it though is suppose to be the same unit fitted to the CX5 for which there are reports of oil rise issues

and the reliability issue with the old 6 went: DPF issue (no visible effect), "oil level rise" (ie - fuel into the sump), warning light (if you were lucky). The car can go for quite some time with diesel in the sump, but lubrication is affected, and eventually oil pump or engine bearings will go.

From browsing HonestJohn, it may be that some of the 2.2's problems were caused by attempts to fix the 2.0's issues, by triggering DPF regeneration too often, and a software fix has mitigated that.

But the fact that the DPF still allows fuel into the sump at all, under any circumstances, means I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole.