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Compensation after stealing accusation and tripping in a club

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    #2
    desultory
    Closed Accounts Posts: 340 ✭✭desultory


    Did you even read the article?


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    #3
    o1s1n
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    Master of the Universe


    I find it odd that you were wrongly accused of shop lifting and didn't make a scene?


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    michael999999
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    I bet you had the stuff hidden in your hair!


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    #5
    hynesie08
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    Is this for real? I got stopped and searched in Tesco's last week as they thought I had taken something. Turns out they made a mistake, apologised and we all went our merry way.

    This never really happened did it?


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    #6
    crockholm
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    Ah Dublin, a tripping/falling over based economy if ever there was one


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    #7
    Afroshack
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    hynesie08 wrote: »
    This never really happened did it?

    Yes, but the alarms did go off when I was leaving, thankfully the items were well concealed :)


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    #8
    Aint Eazy Being Cheezy
    Registered Users Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    You let supermarket security staff search you? I would in my ass, I'd show them a receipt or something without any bother, but no way would I voluntarily turn out my pockets for them. Accuse me if you like lads, but make sure you're right!


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    hynesie08
    Registered Users Posts: 9,731 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    Afroshack wrote: »
    Yes, but the alarms did go off when I was leaving, thankfully the items were well concealed :)

    Thought so, never happened.


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    tayto lover
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    There are some very scary stories under that article in the first link OP.
    Very scary indeed.


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    #11
    suicide_circus
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    Anti depressants and sleeping tablets because someone wrongly accused you of shoplifting..................


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    #12
    BMJD
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    Anti depressants and sleeping tablets because someone wrongly accused you of shoplifting..................

    Cold hard cash cured it. ..whoda thunk it


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    the_syco
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    Afroshack wrote: »
    Another woman was offered 18K for tripping off a step.

    Link to the first story here

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/dublin-hairdresser-29-awarded-20000-in-damages-against-mothercare-uk-for-defamation-30380416.html
    Barrister Michael Vallely, counsel for Ms Kearns, told the Circuit Civil Court she had since been treated for depression and had only recently been put on a reduced dose of antidepressants.
    She must be fairly fragile if she had to be put on antidepressants after the incident. I'd wonder if the solicitor rather than a doctor given her that idea?:rolleyes:
    Afroshack wrote: »
    Link to the second

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/woman-awarded-almost-18000-in-damages-after-fall-in-dublin-nightclub-30384038.html
    Can't see any problem with this. Although most nightclubs usually turn up the lights to signal people to get out, it sounds like a fuse tripped, and the backup lightening was insufficient. It's lucky more people weren't injured.


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    #14
    [Deleted User]
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    If someone stopped me and accused me of stealing, I'd probably be so shocked that I wouldn't make a scene at the time either.

    Damn right they should pay compensation, they accused a person of theft in a busy store during a sale and sullied her good character and they shouldn't get away with flinging those accusations at people.

    The alternative is that bad security staff could ruin a persons reputation and even falsely imprison them with an accusation of something that they have no evidence of. The woman had receipts.

    The Tallaght one, I'm not so sure. Public places have a responsibility to be safe for patrons, and if the area she fell off the step in is unlit and she didn't see it, then she was injured through no fault of her own and it's proper they should pay damages as they didn't keep their premises safely lit for patrons.


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    131spanner
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    Daughters birthday or not, a 64 year old shouldn't be in a night-club :D


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    #16
    Aint Eazy Being Cheezy
    Registered Users Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    I can't see anything wrong with either of those two cases, apart from the dubious nature of the shoplifting accused's injuries.

    Security staff have to be 100% certain any shoplifter still has the goods on them when they detain them, or they're leaving themselves open to a claim. It's why shoplifters often work in pairs, so if searched they've often handed the goods to an accomplice.

    In the nightclub case an independent engineer found the lighting to be inadequate. End of story.


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    #17
    My name is URL
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    Afroshack wrote: »


    Is this for real? I got stopped and searched in Tesco's last week as they thought I had taken something. Turns out they made a mistake, apologised and we all went our merry way.

    Mistake or not, you're a bigger fool for being okay about being searched in a very public place by someone with absolutely no authority to do so.


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    desultory
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    My name is URL wrote: »
    Mistake or not, you're a bigger fool for being okay about being searched in a very public place by someone with absolutely no authority to do so.

    It didn't happen though


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    #19
    Greenmachine
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    Sound like the lady accused of shoplifting deliberately made a scene and exaggerated the impact of the accusation to rile up sympathy in the judge.


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    [Deleted User]
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    And the security spat at her? Why does anyone have a problem with this?

    A public place leaves steps unlit and when someone gets injured they're supposed to just shrug their shoulders?

    There's far dodgier cases for compensation to be found out there than these two.


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    [Deleted User]
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    Greenmachine wrote: »
    Sound like the lady accused of shoplifting deliberately made a scene and exaggerated the impact of the accusation to rile up sympathy in the judge.


    The judge has seen and heard it all, and described this as a serious case of defamation. I see no reason to doubt them.


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    Galwayguy35
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    Candie wrote: »
    And the security spat at her? Why does anyone have a problem with this?

    A public place leaves steps unlit and when someone gets injured they're supposed to just shrug their shoulders?

    There's far dodgier cases for compensation to be found out there than these two.

    That's just her saying her spat her though, we don't know if this is true or not.


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    #23
    [Deleted User]
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    Candie wrote: »
    And the security spat at her? Why does anyone have a problem with this?
    No he didn't.
    Candie wrote: »
    The judge has seen and heard it all, and described this as a serious case of defamation. I see no reason to doubt them.
    Funny how when a judge does something one agrees with one has no reason to doubt the judgement.


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    hynesie08
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    Greenmachine wrote: »
    Sound like the lady accused of shoplifting deliberately made a scene and exaggerated the impact of the accusation to rile up sympathy in the judge.

    Ever been accused of something you didn't do? Most people don't stay calm in that situation.


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    #25
    Greenmachine
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    Candie wrote: »
    The judge has seen and heard it all, and described this as a serious case of defamation. I see no reason to doubt them.


    The judiciary in this country are a joke. Unless you are particularly knowledgeable on the particular judge how can you say with any confidence he has seen it all.


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    #26
    col.in.Cr
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    http://youtu.be/jrwjiO1MCVs


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    #27
    Greenmachine
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    hynesie08 wrote: »
    Ever been accused of something you didn't do? Most people don't stay calm in that situation.


    Security Guard: Have you paid for that.
    Me: Yes I have the receipt in my wallet.
    Security Guard: Okay that's grand


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    #28
    hynesie08
    Registered Users Posts: 9,731 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    Greenmachine wrote: »
    Security Guard: Have you paid for that.
    Me: Yes I have the receipt in my wallet.
    Security Guard: Okay that's grand

    5 mins later

    "that **** after calling me a thief."

    Also that'd be one ****e security guard.


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    #29
    [Deleted User]
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    hynesie08 wrote: »
    Ever been accused of something you didn't do? Most people don't stay calm in that situation.

    I usually calm down before I need anti-depressants.


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    hynesie08
    Registered Users Posts: 9,731 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I usually calm down before I need anti-depressants.
    I'm talking the immediate aftermath, besides I'm guessing neither of us are qualified to diagnose depression.


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    MacBizzle
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    the_syco wrote: »
    She must be fairly fragile if she had to be put on antidepressants after the incident. I'd wonder if the solicitor rather than a doctor given her that idea?:rolleyes:.

    The smallest things can throw people over the edge, it's not fair to comment on it without knowing the full details. For all we know she could have went through a traumatic experience in the days previous, which would explain the reaction.


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