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  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭glasagusban


    Thinkstoomuch, that's a very long post, I normally agree with most of what you post but I disagree with pretty much all of that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 Sam Jam


    Your view defines all what wrongs in limerick


    Just turn up day,hope it clicks


    You have any idea what it takes tactically to win an all ireland and training wise


    You really show your hurling punditry skills when zou dismiss clare as being average same as limerick



    Clares touch and speed miles ahead limerick and o grady working towards that.


    I say you never watched clare train ul north campus jan to april,you did you would clearly see why they won it and why limerick if tj stays wont be in an asses roar of a munster not to mind all ireland



    He would struggle to win a waterford crystal


    But hey ,ye may get lucky in 4 games and go all the way.


    Sorry for having an opinion about my own counties hurling fortunes. Thanks for putting me straight on this. We need more Cork people telling us what to do. Good man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    Sam Jam wrote: »
    Sorry for having an opinion about my own counties hurling fortunes. Thanks for putting me straight on this. We need more Cork people telling us what to do. Good man.

    Tom Ryan would do a good job, I think TJ needs to be shown the door asap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Rightwing wrote: »
    Donal O Grady has disgraced himself. Stay retired FFS.

    Now, over to the county board, resign. You lot are a total embarrassment.

    How has he?

    He simply refused to apologise and be undermine by lads in suit and ties that wouldnt recognise a sliothar from tennis ball if hit them on the nose and bounced back up and slapped them in the arse


    Hes trying to change a game plan


    Should waited til june t. Judge


    Donal og has came out standing as tall as he ever did,even better takes no sh*t lads havent got clue re the game


    Its ist time he walked out.
    This limerick 4th huring management fiacaso ,who do you think seriously looks worse


    O grady doesnt need earn hes cord.Been there done that player manager


    Limerick board are the ones that have to justify there actions


    O grady wont loose a wink sleep over it


    Limerick are ,a joke ,i hate to say it

    Yere top table messed with wrong lad


    He was dead right ,told them where to go


    You either got pride,principle or you dont


    He has it.

    O grady is far from disgrace.He would be taken any county in the morn


    Yere the team no ones wants now


    Oh wait ,tom ryan,tj ryan ,ciaran carey and davie moriaty trainer


    And limerick board run to the leader,like fai with stan the man and the late bobby robson(rip)as world class management,and say we got best management in the country


    Ye fool no ones but yerselves


    Well done donal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Rightwing wrote: »
    Tom Ryan would do a good job, I think TJ needs to be shown the door asap.

    Sweet jesus

    Good wont win all irelands

    Ye wanted an all ireland I thought


    A man that made a balls of newtown,year later went to win all ireland


    He lost every club ,senior all ireland manager


    Clare u21 tear ye new one
    Unreal ,tom ryan.Good luck with him


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    How has he?

    He simply refused to apologise and be undermine by lads in suit and ties that wouldnt recognise a sliothar from tennis ball if hit them on the nose and bounced back up and slapped them in the arse


    Hes trying to change a game plan


    Should waited til june t. Judge


    Donal og has came out standing as tall as he ever did,even better takes no sh*t lads havent got clue re the game


    Its ist time he walked out.
    This limerick 4th huring management fiacaso ,who do you think seriously looks worse


    O grady doesnt need earn hes cord.Been there done that player manager


    Limerick board are the ones that have to justify there actions


    O grady wont loose a wink sleep over it


    Limerick are ,a joke ,i hate to say it

    Yere top table messed with wrong lad


    He was dead right ,told them where to go


    You either got pride,principle or you dont


    He has it.

    O grady is far from disgrace.He would be taken any county in the morn


    Yere the team no ones wants now


    Oh wait ,tom ryan,tj ryan ,ciaran carey and davie moriaty trainer


    And limerick board run to the leader,like fai with stan the man and the late bobby robson(rip)as world class management,and say we got best management in the country


    Ye fool no ones but yerselves


    Well done donal

    If he wasn't able for the job, he shouldn't have taken it. That's the bottom line, anything else is searching for excuses.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 Sam Jam


    Rightwing wrote: »
    Tom Ryan would do a good job, I think TJ needs to be shown the door asap.

    Shame to be hounding people but from the off I thought he was a joke candidate and when O'Grady appeared as his partner I couldn't believe it particularly after he shyte himself in 11 and walked.
    Things must move very quickly now to get a team firing properly for June 1st. A Tom Ryan /Bennis type who could command instant respect. Regretfully I couldn't see it happen with all Tom has said in the past the board would never entertain him. It was the fault of the players Bennis got the boot.
    Ciaran Carey or Kirby should get it now I think. TJ is going to have to say his goodbyes to the seniors for now and leave the stage today to maintain any integrity. If he doesn't I'm still willing to give him the benefit of the doubt to take the reigns seeing as we're so close to Championship. I rather see Carey in there instantly though as in tomorrow morning.

    It's a bit of a mess but I can still see the lads stomping over any opposition this year if their attitude is right. Plenty of A v B games in training, plenty of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    Sam Jam wrote: »
    Shame to be hounding people but from the off I thought he was a joke candidate and when O'Grady appeared as his partner I couldn't believe it particularly after he shyte himself in 11 and walked.
    Things must move very quickly now to get a team firing properly for June 1st. A Tom Ryan /Bennis type who could command instant respect. Regretfully I couldn't see it happen with all Tom has said in the past the board would never entertain him. It was the fault of the players Bennis got the boot.
    Ciaran Carey or Kirby should get it now I think. TJ is going to have to say his goodbyes to the seniors for now and leave the stage today to maintain any integrity. If he doesn't I'm still willing to give him the benefit of the doubt to take the reigns seeing as we're so close to Championship. I rather see Carey in there instantly though as in tomorrow morning.

    It's a bit of a mess but I can still see the lads stomping over any opposition this year if their attitude is right. Plenty of A v B games in training, plenty of them.

    I never liked the look of that partnership. O Grady has proven himself to be a quitter after a disastrous league campaign. He has fooled no one, his reputation is in tatters. Well maybe he fooled 1 poster. ;)

    TJ, what has he ever done to have even been considered ?

    County board needs to go. They are a joke. No one should take the job whilst they are in charge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Sam Jam wrote: »
    Sorry for having an opinion about my own counties hurling fortunes. Thanks for putting me straight on this. We need more Cork people telling us what to do. Good man.

    Absoultey ,cork men ye need

    Our record speaks itself


    Your a wonderfually knowedable poster,you know this already yeah


    That 3 u21 all irelands row,dave keane cork man


    Fergal lyons cork man with ard scoil



    Dave boylan with na piarsaigh cork man


    Ned english ,drom broaford munster club title cork man


    Do you want more please?


    Jerry wallis rechanged yere whole u16 etc development squads to minor


    Go ul sat morn,my dear good man and you see what cork man bring


    You with respect shoot from the hip and havent got a clue real goings on in limerick



    And yes ,as you say lets not panic limerick

    We have luck against tipp,and wait we get lucky 3 m6re times


    Ffs would you get real

    Laois hurlers put two hard days im told ul the weekend.stayed overnight.

    Trained gym then astro turf


    Ger cunningham ul and pat flangan(kerry coach and waterford ,tipp u21footballers,

    They yes laois had a video anaylist there also like they done all year


    Do you think and there not even all ireland contenders they rely on luck


    They dont believe such sh*t

    They prepare well ,as fail to prepare,prepare to fail


    I admire your happy go lucky fairtale view but that wont win limerick anything

    That view be frowned upon in munster rubgy


    Should be in gaa

    Thats why yere gaa teams are poor relations senior

    Theres a optimist,pessimist and a realist


    Optisim you have is so far out of touch with reality in that limerick just need to click.


  • Registered Users Posts: 165 ✭✭francozola


    Haven't read much of the posts but here are my thoughts on the events.

    9 weeks between Allen stepping down and the joint management being appointed. We know the County Board had reservations about TJ/DOG in tandem and if they allowed Ger Cunningham to pick his own staff he would be manager.
    When the management was proposed - not one question was asked from the floor. I would have had dozens of questions re the set up. The delegates had the chance to query the appointment but not for the first time they stayed quiet.
    Talking to players around the same time, they were wondering if they were going on a team holiday as a reward for winning Munster. That still hasn't been sorted out.

    The warning signs were there in the Waterford Crystal, Clare were miles ahead in terms of skill, speed and strength.
    The last 50 minutes against Cork were probably the best of Limerick we'll see this year.
    The team lost its shape badly against Wexford & Galway in the second half of both matches.
    The short game broke down far too often even against Antrim.
    We've heard rumours of discontent in the camp most of which is true.
    DOG didn't seem motivated or interested in doing his job on the sideline.

    The County Board also seem obnoxious and oblivious to how much work went into winning that Munster last year. Instead of rewarding the players & management (as pointed out above) and key personal members - Ger O'Connell and Joe Hannon; they instead rewarded themselves. I've heard that Morrissey, Mann and Riordan got commemorative watches for winning Munster.

    Who do I like to see in charge? My first choice was Brian Ryan last winter but he was always going to stay as minor manager.
    I think he will be Limerick's manager next year. As for now, maybe Richie Bennis can come back ;) But I think Cregan would be the best option. Limerick need to go back to basics and if they can do that they build and reach a Quarter final.

    Martin Kiely's column should be fun this week :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 Sam Jam


    Absoultey ,cork men ye need

    Our record speaks itself


    Your a wonderfually knowedable poster,you know this already yeah


    That 3 u21 all irelands row,dave keane cork man


    Fergal lyons cork man with ard scoil



    Dave boylan with na piarsaigh cork man


    Ned english ,drom broaford munster club title cork man


    Do you want more please?


    Jerry wallis rechanged yere whole u16 etc development squads to minor


    Go ul sat morn,my dear good man and you see what cork man bring


    You with respect shoot from the hip and havent got a clue real goings on in limerick



    And yes ,as you say lets not panic limerick

    We have luck against tipp,and wait we get lucky 3 m6re times


    Ffs would you get real

    Laois hurlers put two hard days im told ul the weekend.stayed overnight.

    Trained gym then astro turf


    Ger cunningham ul and pat flangan(kerry coach and waterford ,tipp u21footballers,

    They yes laois had a video anaylist there also like they done all year


    Do you think and there not even all ireland contenders they rely on luck


    They dont believe such sh*t

    They prepare well ,as fail to prepare,prepare to fail


    I admire your happy go lucky fairtale view but that wont win limerick anything

    That view be frowned upon in munster rubgy


    Should be in gaa

    Thats why yere gaa teams are poor relations senior

    Theres a optimist,pessimist and a realist


    Optisim you have is so far out of touch with reality in that limerick just need to click.


    Thanks mate. I wouldn't know anything if it wasn't for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Gary kirby ,it just gets better


    Ul u ucc freshers,i there I posted match report


    He was nearly beaten tactically

    Carlow beat them in final

    Done good point,but way of intercounty
    Go to match watch him


    You are just way of.A v b training games.Limerick struggle to put 18 great players out so a v b is jack sh*tagainst poor panel players.How do you get real intenstiy


    What tom ryan do??play limerick intermediates ,week in challenge before tipp

    Then go paper,were flying in training hoping of the ground.

    I look forward to your views post tipp match


    A lot of realistic fans here know there beef.They wont agree your optisim


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Gary kirby ,it just gets better


    Ul u ucc freshers,i there I posted match report


    He was nearly beaten tactically

    Carlow beat them in final

    Done good point,but way of intercounty
    Go to match watch him


    You are just way of.A v b training games.Limerick struggle to put 18 great players out so a v b is jack sh*tagainst poor panel players.How do you get real intenstiy


    What tom ryan do??play limerick intermediates ,week in challenge before tipp

    Then go paper,were flying in training hoping of the ground.

    I look forward to your views post tipp match


    A lot of realistic fans here know there beef.They wont agree your optisim


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    There's an emergency county board meeting tonight as far as I know.


    This is primarily their fault, and pressure shoulld be put on them to resign tonight. But will that do any good? If the top table go, who replaces them? More of the same, I'd imagine. Are we ever going to have a county board without political motivations who can do what's best for Limerick GAA, both hurling and football. I'd say that's hard in any county, but particularly here where that kind of culture has gone on for so long. Still though, after fcuking up so badly, surely they have to go.


    Realistically, this was a disaster of a league campaign. Donal O'Grady has previously been a great manager and TJ is Limerick through-and-through; but they fcuked up badly aswell. Not only was there a stark refusal to try certain players despite it being an almost desperate need, there was a real inability to change things/react on the sideline not to mention persisting with tactics that didn't work. I'm not talking about short passing, there is nothing wrong with that; but movement off the ball, runners off the shoulder, not handpassing when you're surrounded by 3 men..... basic stuff that just wasn't there.


    You'd have to question O'Grady's motivation, we all know he's getting paid quite a bit, but did he really want to do it? And then getting into disputes with some of our top players..... it didn't happen in 2011 anyway. So yeah, I would wonder how motivated he was... and people are right, it's not 2003/2004 anymore.


    I think Carey will end up in charge, he's the only one who will be offered the job that will take it. I'm not sure the time is right for him, but we're desperate at this stage. If he can convince maybe one top class coach to join him, maybe we can salvage something. Maybe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    No more fookin cork managers, it started with justin mccarthy :rolleyes: FFS, who gave him a job.

    Bottom line is, county board are responsible for taking on people who are clearly out of their depth. They need to go as well. Get professionals in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 Sam Jam


    Gary kirby ,it just gets better


    Ul u ucc freshers,i there I posted match report


    He was nearly beaten tactically

    Carlow beat them in final

    Done good point,but way of intercounty
    Go to match watch him


    You are just way of.A v b training games.Limerick struggle to put 18 great players out so a v b is jack sh*tagainst poor panel players.How do you get real intenstiy


    What tom ryan do??play limerick intermediates ,week in challenge before tipp

    Then go paper,were flying in training hoping of the ground.

    I look forward to your views post tipp match


    A lot of realistic fans here know there beef.They wont agree your optisim

    You're very flustered here thinkstoomuch1y. I'm very sorry that my views have you so disheveled. You're going to have to put me on ignore if this is the way I affect you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Sam Jam wrote: »
    Thanks mate. I wouldn't know anything if it wasn't for you.

    Id certainly agree there

    Only too glad to help mate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    It doesn't matter where a manager is from, as long as they are both the right man for the job and willing to commit 100%.


    Is Ciaran Carey the right man for the job? Maybe not... but who is at this stage? I would have loved to see the Limerick Ger Cunningham take the job, or the other Ger Cunningham. But the County Board fcuked that up too. If Jerry Wallis or Eamonn Cregan wanted it, I'd let them have it. But why would they?


    At least we're not quite in the dire straits of 2010 yet, not much consolation, but there it is. The players are still united, the public are universally behind them, and the county board are the ones at fault.


  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭glasagusban


    Thinkstoomuch, enough with the big long posts. You are a fan of DOG, we get it. You are also fairly knowledgeable about hurling and I enjoy your posts. You have to accept though that some people will have a different opinion. I pointed out some fairly obvious failings of o'ogrady's management last time around when he was appointed. You could see a lot of the same this time around. People are split on whether he was right or wrong to walk. The county board were completely wrong, but O'Gradys reaction is petulant. He took his ball and went home like a little boy, and walked out on the players 6 weeks before championship.

    In any event, I'm not convinced he's a loss. I don't expect us to do very well this year now, but then I didn't when he was there either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Rightwing wrote: »
    No more fookin cork managers, it started with justin mccarthy :rolleyes: FFS, who gave him a job.

    Bottom line is, county board are responsible for taking on people who are clearly out of their depth. They need to go as well. Get professionals in.

    Should wallis walk away from yer minors


    Brian ryan is managememt in name only


    Cregan and wallis run that show


    Anyone in limerick can confirm that

    Wallis u16 beat clare saturday


    There isnt a player underage limericl he isnt aware of


    Brian ryan has no credentials role


    People should watch limerick minors train


    Cregan and walLace are the main men

    Jerry is hooking,blocking,ball work etc

    Cregan tactial side


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  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭glasagusban


    Fireball07 wrote: »
    It doesn't matter where a manager is from, as long as they are both the right man for the job and willing to commit 100%.


    Is Ciaran Carey the right man for the job? Maybe not... but who is at this stage? I would have loved to see the Limerick Ger Cunningham take the job, or the other Ger Cunningham. But the County Board fcuked that up too. If Jerry Wallis or Eamonn Cregan wanted it, I'd let them have it. But why would they?


    At least we're not quite in the dire straits of 2010 yet, not much consolation, but there it is. The players are still united, the public are universally behind them, and the county board are the ones at fault.

    Leave TJ and the three selectors in place. Nothing will be gained by replacing them. Source a coach if they need to but Lyons and Beary can do that job, they have strong experience. It is what it is now, move on and do the best for the year. A large clear the air session and a lot of input from the players should be taken and then get on with it.

    Long term, Ciarán is the man. I'd like him to get two years with the 21s first, and he might need a good coach a la Kinnerk beside Davy Fitz, but he would be a fantastic manager.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    Should wallis walk away from yer minors


    Brian ryan is managememt in name only


    Cregan and wallis run that show


    Anyone in limerick can confirm that

    Wallis u16 beat clare saturday


    There isnt a player underage limericl he isnt aware of


    Brian ryan has no credentials role


    People should watch limerick minors train


    Cregan and walLace are the main men

    Jerry is hooking,blocking,ball work etc

    Cregan tactial side

    Cork have fallen away massively. When did Cork even win a senior munster last? I can't remember cork minors doing much either. Cork isn't the place to be looking at imo.

    Fact is we need to getting a manager from a county that is successful, there has to be someone in KK that's up to the job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    Leave TJ and the three selectors in place. Nothing will be gained by replacing them. Source a coach if they need to but Lyons and Beary can do that job, they have strong experience. It is what it is now, move on and do the best for the year. A large clear the air session and a lot of input from the players should be taken and then get on with it.

    Long term, Ciarán is the man. I'd like him to get two years with the 21s first, and he might need a good coach a la Kinnerk beside Davy Fitz, but he would be a fantastic manager.

    Can TJ really stay on though after releasing a joint statement with O'Grady. From what I gather, it looks like he's only staying on until a new manager is appointed. I'd agree with keeping some continuity, but they definitely need a coach of some sort, it's a pity they didn't get Kinnerk himself.


    We'll find out tonight presumably.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Thinkstoomuch, enough with the big long posts. You are a fan of DOG, we get it. You are also fairly knowledgeable about hurling and I enjoy your posts. You have to accept though that some people will have a different opinion. I pointed out some fairly obvious failings of o'ogrady's management last time around when he was appointed. You could see a lot of the same this time around. People are split on whether he was right or wrong to walk. The county board were completely wrong, but O'Gradys reaction is petulant. He took his ball and went home like a little boy, and walked out on the players 6 weeks before championship.

    In any event, I'm not convinced he's a loss. I don't expect us to do very well this year now, but then I didn't when he was there either.

    Its not being a fan


    I judge purely on hes skillset

    What do u expect manager any backbone do when hes undermined

    You walk

    Cody would do the same
    He was on a hiding to nothing

    He stayed and they beat tipp,board run leader and say we are the reason it happened we threw the guntlet down


    They lost,then they have record boys admiued they wrong in league



    You judge manager in a season


    Why by same values you judge o grady you rduse judge allen shambloic display last year in league f4nal and semi final


    Again munster was flawed

    Two home wins ,ye cant say would beat cork 15


    What game plan u want


    Possesion game only way you beat clare


    Tom ryan has a poor all ireland wi6ing record


    Brian ryan has nothing at all


    Carey is unknown

    Tj isnt up to it

    Leo o connor mayo ,doing well castretroy u15 hardly up to this level

    Ger c wont leave laois

    Shane fitzgibbon be yere best hope and ger is with adare I believe also


    Again wont leave laois

    Sheedy wont go near ye

    Ger c cork wont touch it


    Cusack wont

    Yere in dire starits complete shambkes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Again cork like ye,politcs plays a part


    Wallis,o grady proven men top level

    My question is should in your viem wallis leave minors and how do you rate him ,as people fast enought to laud him yewin all ireland


    So how do you rate wallis as coach ???

    Cork won munstes 2006,irrel vant to this as again o grady and wallis proven


    Walsh ,gerald mac two manager since cork,noboddy mentioned them.Dont dag argument of in tangent you cant answer? Asked


    Jbm is manaper now ,nobody said he is limerick man

    Cunninghan and cusack were ideal for ye


    Even gerald mac or denis walsh wouldnt go to ye now


    Cork coaches ,and ye particulary fan of allen,he won munster yere quick to point out .Ye change tack all of a sudden


    Dave keane best u21 coach ye had 3 in a row still to be done ,and he was senior man and again board shafted him


    Cork coaches in general done well


    Yes justin shouldnt got job but ye have done great cork coaches


    Ask any limerick parent,there univesal praise wallace


    Every sat he training future limerick,the goes back to cork .Yore way of to say cork mangers ye dont want


    If wallis left yere minors forget bout an all ireland


    Some of the disrespect for cork he couldnt be blamed to walk away


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    Again cork like ye,politcs plays a part


    Wallis,o grady proven men top level

    My question is should in your viem wallis leave minors and how do you rate him ,as people fast enought to laud him yewin all ireland


    So how do you rate wallis as coach ???

    Cork won munstes 2006,irrel vant to this as again o grady and wallis proven


    Walsh ,gerald mac two manager since cork,noboddy mentioned them.Dont dag argument of in tangent you cant answer? Asked


    Jbm is manaper now ,nobody said he is limerick man

    Cunninghan and cusack were ideal for ye


    Even gerald mac or denis walsh wouldnt go to ye now


    Cork coaches ,and ye particulary fan of allen,he won munster yere quick to point out .Ye change tack all of a sudden


    Dave keane best u21 coach ye had 3 in a row still to be done ,and he was senior man and again board shafted him


    Cork coaches in general done well


    Yes justin shouldnt got job but ye have done great cork coaches


    Ask any limerick parent,there univesal praise wallace


    Every sat he training future limerick,the goes back to cork .Yore way of to say cork mangers ye dont want


    If wallis left yere minors forget bout an all ireland


    Some of the disrespect for cork he couldnt be blamed to walk away

    Christ, I'd nearly have as a good a chance of understanding Chinese as this jumbled up stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 215 ✭✭Hanalei


    thinkstoomuch, just because a small minority of posters indicated a willingness to move away from Cork managers does not mean the county as a whole lacks respect for Cork, we haven't had a Limerick man in (sole) charge since 2008, some people are a bit tired of going to the same county over and over again; there's nothing personal meant by it so there really is no need to take offence to some comments and launch a repeated defence of all things Cork.

    It irritates me to see you say things like "Some of the disrespect for cork he couldnt be blamed to walk away", that doesn't represent the opinion of people like myself who said he was right not to put up with the bullsh*t the Limerick county board threw his way recently. They bent over backwards trying to convince him to take the job and 5 months later they are using him as a pawn to massage their own idiotic ego's by washing dirty linen in public; throwing him into a pantomime.

    There are plenty like myself who have never said a thing about Cork so I don't appreciate some of the generalisations you have made about my county in a bid to defend your county's honour. This isn't a Limerick V Cork thing; it's a Limerick thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Rightwing wrote: »
    Christ, I'd nearly have as a good a chance of understanding Chinese as this jumbled up stuff.

    You always know when a poster is rattled ,attacks my style


    Id make it easy How do you rate Jerry wallis as coach


    Be nice to koow where you stand

    You lauded john allen last year as best thing since slice pan then was fast to change tact


    Be consistent at least


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Hanalei wrote: »
    thinkstoomuch, just because a small minority of posters indicated a willingness to move away from Cork managers does not mean the county as a whole lacks respect for Cork, we haven't had a Limerick man in (sole) charge since 2008, some people are a bit tired of going to the same county over and over again; there's nothing personal meant by it so there really is no need to take offence to some comments and launch a repeated defence of all things Cork.

    It irritates me to see you say things like "Some of the disrespect for cork he couldnt be blamed to walk away", that doesn't represent the opinion of people like myelf who said he was right not to put up with the bullsh*t the Limerick county board threw his way recently. They bent over backwards trying to convince him to take the job and 5 months later they are using him as a pawn to massage their own idiotic ego's by washing dirty linen in public; throwing him into a pantomime.

    There are plenty like myself who have never said a thing about Cork so I don't appreciate some of the generalisations you have made about my county in a bid to defend your county's honour. This isn't a Limerick V Cork thing; it's a Limerick thing.
    Fair point ,


    Certainly be unfair to post ye all as same

    just unfair that some blame it as were sick cork managers


    Nothing do us ,its board problem


    Its fair point you make
    W


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    You always know when a poster is rattled ,attacks my style


    Id make it easy How do you rate Jerry wallis as coach


    Be nice to koow where you stand

    You lauded john allen last year as best thing since slice pan then was fast to change tact


    Be consistent at least

    I agree with the above poster, no one here is anti cork.

    Fact is I'd like to see them win something.

    I didn't really rate Allen, I thought keeping Dowling/Downes on the bench was headless stuff. But I'll give him credit - he won something.

    The minors are doing well, I don't know enough about Wallis to answer your question, but I've no problem with the minor setup.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,707 ✭✭✭flutered


    Sam Jam wrote: »
    Awful negative stuff being said about our year being over. I disagree strongly.

    O'Grady is all about himself and I was aware of this years ago and disliked him for it.

    No harm has been done in reality. Players may feel offended a little but who knows they actually might be happy enough he's walked. All they have to do now is hurl to their ability and without a doubt in my mind if they do that they'll win the A I this year.
    this this a press release from the co. board, it takes more than this statement to win an all ireland, tactics are most important, training and conditioning come into the equation, enough said for the moment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Rightwing wrote: »
    No more fookin cork managers, it started with justin mccarthy :rolleyes: FFS, who gave him a job.

    Bottom line is, county board are for taking on people who are clearly out of their depth. They need to go as well. Get professionals in.




    Run with the hare ,chase with the hound.You made a disgraceful comment re cork managers then said when won munster as that anything do with it


    You clearly havent got a clue re limerick hurling,if you were geuine youd clearly know minors inside out.Typical, sit back and judge without knowing going ons


    You know nothing re minors but you will be the first to judge wallace if they loose and blame it as a cork think.
    Any half knowledable gaa man knows work wallace puts in to the game and yed be poorer without him ,and wallis is central to yere minor evoloution,carring on great work u16 by joe quaid,another man shafted by yere board


    To say o grady isnt a professional is more an inditement you than o grady .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,707 ✭✭✭flutered


    Sam Jam wrote: »
    TJ the Limerickman will have to roll up the sleeves now and show us he has a strong back to instill confidence and belief in the players.

    Hopefully the team will unite now and become all the better for it.

    OGrady's gone, big deal. Well able to do without him. Moving forward lads. Championship time around the corner.
    tj could not get garryspillane to play for him, you seem to expect an all ireland from him, my mind is boggling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    flutered wrote: »
    tj could not get garryspillane to play for him, you seem to expect an all ireland from him, my mind is boggling.

    Kilworth won intermediate with him alright


    Hardly all ireland material

    U21 last year woeful

    Id agree ,he is poor out he depth


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    Run with the hare ,chase with the hound.You made a disgraceful comment re cork managers then said when won munster as that anything do with it


    You clearly havent got a clue re limerick hurling,if you were geuine youd clearly know minors inside out.Typical, sit back and judge without knowing going ons


    You know nothing re minors but you will be the first to judge wallace if they loose and blame it as a cork think.
    Any half knowledable gaa man knows work wallace puts in to the game and yed be poorer without him ,and wallis is central to yere minor evoloution,carring on great work u16 by joe quaid,another man shafted by yere board


    To say o grady isnt a professional is more an inditement you than o grady .

    O Grady walked the plank, he was hoping it would break as he was walking.

    Hopefully he'll stay retired and not waste anyone's time. A waste of space.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,707 ✭✭✭flutered


    Sam Jam wrote: »
    A team can rise up and do it. Look at Clare last year sure. It's all about belief Sean. Davey had those young lads yes young lads they were only 21 year old on average brainwashed to their inner cores that they were going to win the A I. Their hurlers are no better than Limericks.

    O'Grady gone so what?,,, This team can do it, I don't doubt that. They just got to get it into their heads.

    do we have some one of the calibre of days in our senior set up, more importantly davy has some right hand man, we do not have a man of his calibre in either the snr, intermediate, or u21 setups, to say that clares hurlers are no better than limericks suggests some shortsightness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Rightwing wrote: »
    O Grady walked the plank, he was hoping it would break as he was walking.

    Hopefully he'll stay retired and not waste anyone's time. A waste of space.

    You havent got a iota


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    flutered wrote: »
    do we have some one of the calibre of days in our senior set up, more importantly davy has some right hand man, we do not have a man of his calibre in either the snr, intermediate, or u21 setups, to say that clares hurlers are no better than limericks suggests some shortsightness.

    Hes posts arent backed up by reality


    Reminds me of a rubgy team,last play game

    Down by 4
    Lack the reality,sublety and tactial nous to make a creative back line movement to score a try

    So we kick a garryowen up the jumper hope the full back drops the ball ,and you run in under the post


    9/10 that wont happen despite wishful thinking

    Paul kinnerk wont go anywhere near limerick when clare miles ahead

    Why would he


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,707 ✭✭✭flutered


    Rightwing wrote: »
    No more fookin cork managers, it started with justin mccarthy :rolleyes: FFS, who gave him a job.

    Bottom line is, county board are responsible for taking on people who are clearly out of their depth. They need to go as well. Get professionals in.
    did not a number of limerick players travel to thurles to encourage mccarthy to come to limerick


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 Sam Jam


    flutered wrote: »
    do we have some one of the calibre of days in our senior set up, more importantly davy has some right hand man, we do not have a man of his calibre in either the snr, intermediate, or u21 setups, to say that clares hurlers are no better than limericks suggests some shortsightness.

    Three of my posts you've quoted to me one after the other flutered. What exactly is the message you wish to convey to me?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,707 ✭✭✭flutered


    Hes posts arent backed up by reality


    Reminds me of a rubgy team,last play game

    Down by 4
    Lack the reality,sublety and tactial nous to make a creative back line movement to score a try

    So we kick a garryowen up the jumper hope the full back drops the ball ,and you run in under the post


    9/10 that wont happen despite wishful thinking

    Paul kinnerk wont go anywhere near limerick when clare miles ahead

    Why would he

    i never suggested for a moment the davys right hand man would jump ship for limerick, what i posted was that limerick did not have a guy of his calibre in most of limericks set ups, back in the day i posted that davy should not have been allowed near the blllysimon roundabout on his way to waterford, i also posted during the players strike that tj was mooted to be the next limerick manager, lots of talk about it back then amoungst the strikeing players.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,707 ✭✭✭flutered


    Sam Jam wrote: »
    Three of my posts you've quoted to me one after the other flutered. What exactly is the message you wish to convey to me?

    none to you, as per boards rules i was quoting the posts not the poster, i have a passing interest in limerick hurling, as back in the day i used to watch them train, for about four or five years, three night a week in fact.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 215 ✭✭Hanalei


    Rightwing wrote: »
    O Grady walked the plank, he was hoping it would break as he was walking.

    Hopefully he'll stay retired and not waste anyone's time. A waste of space.

    Regardless of what one feels about Donal O'Grady right now; to call him a waste of space is grossly unfair and I hope you retract that bit at least.

    His achievements both as a player and a manager speak for themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 Sam Jam


    flutered wrote: »
    none to you, as per boards rules i was quoting the posts not the poster, i have a passing interest in limerick hurling, as back in the day i used to watch them train, for about four or five years, three night a week in fact.


    Woah I better make sure I don't cross swords with you then.


  • Registered Users Posts: 451 ✭✭Walter.White


    Strong rumours circulating that the Limerick county board see David Moyes as the ideal candidate to be the new Limerick manager!!
    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    Strong rumours circulating that the Limerick county board see David Moyes as the ideal candidate to be the new Limerick manager!!
    :)

    Well, he's not from Cork ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭glasagusban


    Its not being a fan


    I judge purely on hes skillset

    What do u expect manager any backbone do when hes undermined

    You walk

    Cody would do the same
    He was on a hiding to nothing

    He stayed and they beat tipp,board run leader and say we are the reason it happened we threw the guntlet down


    They lost,then they have record boys admiued they wrong in league



    You judge manager in a season


    Why by same values you judge o grady you rduse judge allen shambloic display last year in league f4nal and semi final


    Again munster was flawed

    Two home wins ,ye cant say would beat cork 15


    What game plan u want


    Possesion game only way you beat clare


    Tom ryan has a poor all ireland wi6ing record


    Brian ryan has nothing at all


    Carey is unknown

    Tj isnt up to it

    Leo o connor mayo ,doing well castretroy u15 hardly up to this level

    Ger c wont leave laois

    Shane fitzgibbon be yere best hope and ger is with adare I believe also


    Again wont leave laois

    Sheedy wont go near ye

    Ger c cork wont touch it


    Cusack wont

    Yere in dire starits complete shambkes
    On your list of coaches:
    Tom Ryan is an ape. Brian Ryan has a gifted panel and a good coach with him but has done some stupid things as a coach with them, he has no future as a senior manager. Leo O'Connor is a joke after how he finished with the 21s, and before then if you knew much about them. TJ not up to it on all available evidence. Carey is the future and has done well with all teams he was involved with, he should be the future senior manager but will need a top coach with him. The others are all maybes, it's not worthwhile talking about Cusack or sheedy, they aren't options.

    You talk of a possession game needed to beat Clare. There's more than Clare out there. O'Gradys style of play is outdated. It has been since Kilkenny dismantled that great cork team. From what we've seen O'Grady has not moved on since then. Anyway, a manager needs to play a style to suit his players, like Kinnerk and Fitz did in Clare. Like Allen did in limerick to an extent.

    Right now, there is no reason we need a new manager anyway. I presume the rest of the management are staying. They need to hold a big clear the air meeting with the players, take their views on board, and empower them to have an input into their own summer, and move on. If they do that they can maybe save something from the summer. I saw a few of the players out in the gym in UL this morning, the world hasn't ended.


  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭glasagusban


    Paul kinnerk wont go anywhere near limerick when clare miles ahead

    Why would he
    Not now, of course. But every management/coach has a lifespan and he won't stay with Clare forever. He is from limerick and I would be very surprised if he never becomes involved with us in the future.

    To be honest I had resigned myself to two years of TJ and O'Grady and was clinging to the hope of Carey taking over with someone like Kinnerk or Cunningham after that. Or another young coach, remember Kinnerk was plucked from obscurity to the Clare underage then senior set ups. The two Morans are gaining experience too and Niall has great work done with Ardscoil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,707 ✭✭✭flutered


    could not use one, as i am disabled, so you have no worries there, btw i have been here quite a while, i have had infactions bans etc so i have to be careful in what i print


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,707 ✭✭✭flutered


    Not now, of course. But every management/coach has a lifespan and he won't stay with Clare forever. He is from limerick and I would be very surprised if he never becomes involved with us in the future.

    To be honest I had resigned myself to two years of TJ and O'Grady and was clinging to the hope of Carey taking over with someone like Kinnerk or Cunningham after that. Or another young coach, remember Kinnerk was plucked from obscurity to the Clare underage then senior set ups. The two Morans are gaining experience too and Niall has great work done with Ardscoil.
    you are quite correct, coaches have a hard and rocky road to travel, very few become sucessfull, to become sucessfull one needs to be to work hard, be lucky, and surround ones self with good help, look at the top soccer and rugby coaches, they have great assistants, old trafford changes theirs every two years, until this year, when ferguson came up with the brain fart of making senir players caches. but to me he had an agenda for this.why so the player did nor be come familiar with their methods, players cannot be left in a safe zone, they need to be pushed


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