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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Oldtree wrote: »
    It was a tense match with a lot riding on it, so I was not keen to see him try to take any more punts on the day after 4 misses. The jeering was unfortunate and unnecessary but there was a palpable sense of relief in the crowd when he was not given the opportunity to take the kick. It is imo unfair for management not to have been able to adapt and try someone else on the team at that stage. Yet again we see the team/team members having to make management decisions out on the pitch.

    I hope it does not jaundice him in any way as he made an exceptional save and he is a really fantastic goalie. He is also really good at the long kicks but his eye was out on the day and he should not have been put in that position.

    Yes the management really should have taken the decision out of his hand,it should not be up the players to take what are essentially management decisions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,769 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    As expected Mayo up and running and with Derry,Cork at home and Westmeath,Dublin away i would fancy Mayo to reach the semi finals, though not the end of the world if they don't.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭Padkir


    In my opinion I don't think that any of the frees in the 2nd half that Hennelly took were outside Freeman's range, particularly with the wind at his back. He should have been taking them.

    It was clear after the first 2/3 that Hennelly wasn't on form with the frees, so that's why the crowd were getting annoyed at him going up for the 4th and then the one which Freeman took over. I don't think it was directed at him as an individual; I think the source of annoyance was because management / Moran should have seen he wasn't on it and taken him off them. That was certainly the feeling around where I was anyway.

    If you had a free taker who missed 4 kickable frees, there's no way he should be taking any more. I'd say the same if it was O'Connor, Freeman or McLoughlin. Some days they just don't go over, and management / the captain / the player himself needs to take their beating and leave it to someone else when that happens and just focus on the rest of their game.

    For what it's worth I like Hennelly (except under a high ball) and I'm happy for him to take on the long ones. Just have the sense to stop if they're not going well.

    On a slightly related point, great to see Freeman take responsibility like that; showed great leadership at a time when the game was in the balance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,417 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01




  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,722 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop



    This is happening in other games, why are they now jumping up and down when Andy M does it?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,417 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    yop wrote: »
    This is happening in other games, why are they now jumping up and down when Andy M does it?

    Assume because it was live on tv plus Shane McHale did more or less the same thing as well. Even with my green and red hat on it was a cynical foul and wasn't the black card brought in to try and remove that from our game. I know based on the literal interrpretation of the black card rule it wasn't a black card but to most it would appear to have been one.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,722 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    Assume because it was live on tv plus Shane McHale did more or less the same thing as well. Even with my green and red hat on it was a cynical foul and wasn't the black card brought in to try and remove that from our game. I know based on the literal interrpretation of the black card rule it wasn't a black card but to most it would appear to have been one.

    Other games were on TV also, one was on Saturday night and I was surprised to see no black, as with Andys on Sunday. But I love the way we are been singled out again for "cynical" as we were in the semi final 2 years ago.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,417 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    yop wrote: »
    Other games were on TV also, one was on Saturday night and I was surprised to see no black, as with Andys on Sunday. But I love the way we are been singled out again for "cynical" as we were in the semi final 2 years ago.

    Leave the others out of it, as a Mayo man I say it was cynical. I said at the time it was a black card in my eyes as was the incident with Shane McHale. We have to be objective when it comes to our team. I will say it again but our backline isn't getting the protection so far this season that it has been getting for the past two years and that was the reason that those incidents occured. It is also the reason why we are conceeding such high scores.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,722 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    Leave the others out of it, as a Mayo man I say it was cynical. I said at the time it was a black card in my eyes as was the incident with Shane McHale. We have to be objective when it comes to our team. I will say it again but our backline isn't getting the protection so far this season that it has been getting for the past two years and that was the reason that those incidents occured. It is also the reason why we are conceeding such high scores.

    Absolutely it was cynical, but you get my point on what I saying.

    We have the 2nd worst defense now in the 1st Div but 2nd highest scorers (well Kildare and Tyrone have both 64)


    S TEAM P W L D F A POINTS
    1 CORK 3 3 0 0 54 43 6
    2 DERRY 3 2 0 1 59 44 5
    3 TYRONE 3 2 0 1 64 57 5
    4 DUBLIN 3 2 1 0 46 43 4
    5 KILDARE 3 1 2 0 64 65 2
    6 MAYO 3 1 2 0 60 62 2
    7 KERRY 3 0 3 0 43 51 0
    8 WESTMH 3 0 3 0 32 57 0

    To be honest considering we lost by 1 point to Kildare I wouldn't be overly worried, we are getting scores, something which everyone seemed to laugh about us and "marquee forwards".

    But we do need to tighten, we have shipped some poor scores and our backs were turned inside out last Sunday


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭davegrohl48


    For a complex enough rule when looked at in its entirety I think the black card is operating n working well As a player or supporter prefer current situation It rewards skill at both ends of the pitch Pull to ground is sensible or every bit of defensive pressure might get pinged As a defender you have to play up to the line of legitimate or forward will run straight through you


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  • Registered Users Posts: 22 anoh77


    Long time reader on this thread, so may as well throw in my opinion. Be relatively happy with the league so far, always felt the first 2 ties were going to be tricky, away fixtures against 2 decent teams who were always going to have more work done that us at that stage. We could have got something out of either tie had a few things gone our way. Felt last Sunday was a must win, and was relatively happy how it went. Only time i was a bit worried was directly after half time, leading at half time was a huge plus after playing against a strong enough breeze. seemed to take 10 minutes for them to get going again, played a few dodgy passes, the goal chance Hennelly saved seemed to spur us into life again. On the point of the long range frees, he's well capable of landing them on a day he's striking the ball well, but i felt once he missed the 3rd one, the first with the wind behind him, that was the time to change free taker. wasnt our best day in the middle, but i think that was O'Shea and Gibbons 5th game weekend on the trot, so maybe a bit of tiredness there. Freeman had a great game, he's our stand out option at 14. I think a win is nearly a must again this weekend, bring a bit of momentum into the Cork tie, which with the way they're going, is going to be the best guage yet of where we're at, the rustiness of the first 2 tie's should be gone, should be getting closer to others fitness wise, big home crowd on a bank holiday weekend, great chance to set down a marker.......just need to get out of Mullingar with the points first!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,703 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Realistically, Mullingar should be one to strengthen the old points difference.


    Probably jinxed it now, but Westmeath's confidence must be nearly shot at this stage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,769 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Realistically, Mullingar should be one to strengthen the old points difference.


    Probably jinxed it now, but Westmeath's confidence must be nearly shot at this stage.

    Confidence levels can't be too high alright however they gave a decent showing against Dublin in Mullingar so maybe this game will be closer than some expect.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,012 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    Great to see Freeman put in a top class performance, just as he did v Tyrone in August.

    Hopefully he can keep that level of consistency up all year.

    Having him and O' Connor on top form for the Championship would be a huge benefit.

    It would make picking the full forward line a much easier task than it has been to date.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭davegrohl48


    Great to see Freeman put in a top class performance, just as he did v Tyrone in August.

    Hopefully he can keep that level of consistency up all year.

    Having him and O' Connor on top form for the Championship would be a huge benefit.

    It would make picking the full forward line a much easier task than it has been to date.
    Even after one game think Gallagher should only be half forward Will do his best work there But things looking bit better upfront


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Defiler Of The Coffin


    We certainly look complete up front at the moment, Kev Mc is back on form and Freeman is at the peak of his game, certainly a future captain of the team. Adam Gallagher is a bright prospect and then you still have COC, Alan Dillon and Richie Feeney waiting in the wings. The forwards looked very sharp on Sunday with the moves leading up to the first goal looking like the work of a very well-oiled machine. Hopefully Doherty has regained his goal scoring habits. I wonder will Tom King get much of a run in the league?

    I'd say Horan will leave Higgins in the backs for the forseeable future, he's badly needed there at the moment. Agreed that the midfield looked tired and the sooner we get Barry Moran back the better. Credit to Jason Gibbons though who has seriously raised his game and has given us more options at midfield.

    I think we got some good glimpses of what this team is capable of and I'm a lot more optimistic after Sunday than I was after Omagh. We'll be back challenging in the business end of the championship for sure. The Cork game will be a massive one for us as they are the form team at the moment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 whocares


    Will the U21s be available next sunday if playing on Wednesday.


  • Registered Users Posts: 894 ✭✭✭homewardbound11


    Was abroad for the Kerry game and just back. Its not on rte. Anyone else know where I can pick it up.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,722 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    Was abroad for the Kerry game and just back. Its not on rte. Anyone else know where I can pick it up.

    It was on TnaGee, anyway to u can get it from them?
    RTE player should have highlights from the game as they were on the Sunday evening league program, was on around 7pm I think


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    Anyone know when the team is due to be announced?


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,722 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    ColeTrain wrote: »
    Anyone know when the team is due to be announced?

    Suprised it hasn't been announced.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,104 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    Getting to this one and cant wait to see the follow on from the last match. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 610 ✭✭✭GBXI


    ColeTrain wrote: »
    Anyone know when the team is due to be announced?

    Later tonight by the MayoGAA twitter account.

    They didn't give a time but it's usually any time between 7-9pm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭mayo.mick


    GBXI wrote: »
    Later tonight by the MayoGAA twitter account.

    They didn't give a time but it's usually any time between 7-9pm.

    They will probably be training tonight, so I'd say it will be after 9 or else in the morning.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,731 ✭✭✭Fowler87


    Team for Sunday

    Robbie Hennelly (Breaffy); Brendan Harrison (Aghamore), Ger Cafferkey (Ballina Stephenites), Kevin Keane (Westport); Lee Keegan (Westport, captain), Donal Vaughan (Ballinrobe), Colm Boyle (Davitts); Aidan O’Shea (Breaffy), Jason Gibbons (Ballintubber); Kevin McLoughlin (Knockmore), Jason Doherty (Burrishoole), Keith Higgins (Ballyhaunis); Enda Varley (Garrymore), Alan Freeman (Aghamore), Mikie Sweeney (Kiltane).

    Few changes but still a strong lineup. Higgins back in the forwards again and a start for Mikie Sweeney. We should have at least 6-10 points over Westmeath with that side.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭manofwisdom


    Fowler87 wrote: »
    Team for Sunday

    Robbie Hennelly (Breaffy); Brendan Harrison (Aghamore), Ger Cafferkey (Ballina Stephenites), Kevin Keane (Westport); Lee Keegan (Westport, captain), Donal Vaughan (Ballinrobe), Colm Boyle (Davitts); Aidan O’Shea (Breaffy), Jason Gibbons (Ballintubber); Kevin McLoughlin (Knockmore), Jason Doherty (Burrishoole), Keith Higgins (Ballyhaunis); Enda Varley (Garrymore), Alan Freeman (Aghamore), Mikie Sweeney (Kiltane).

    Few changes but still a strong lineup. Higgins back in the forwards again and a start for Mikie Sweeney. We should have at least 6-10 points over Westmeath with that side.

    Westmeath should be stronger at home, Dublin only bet them by 4 points, this game might be closer than you think.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭davegrohl48


    Higgins for sure should be back locking down one corner Its a specialist role that you only see the value of when other players less equipped try n take on that role. Two of our best players have been disasters there. Vaughan few seasons ago n Boyle this year just to show how few players can really excel at it. Now with the black card rules, having a good full backline will be something seen as giving All Ireland winning potential. Forward lines are scoring heavy, three full rounds of Div1/Div2 nfl show this. Counter attacking football which relies on quality of your half backs, we have the best in the country n they've another season of refinement done. We've a good freetaker to come back in and if looked at closely in last twelves games an in-form full forward in Freeman. Locking down the full backline, midfield mobility and more kick out options at half forward are our three big issues right now


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Can't fathom out the switching of Keith Higgins! Mind boggles.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭davegrohl48


    seligehgit wrote: »
    Can't fathom out the switching of Keith Higgins! Mind boggles.
    Plus he's not really a kickpasser or scorer and his runs are best when he receives the ball looking towards goal


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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,012 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    Hold on
    I thought after the all Ireland that it was an accepted fact that Higgins was the future of the half forward line ?

    What has changed ?


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