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Gardai report more money missing..

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    #2
    Festy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭Festy


    Quick,someone call the guards...Oh wait...


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    #3
    charlemont
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    They are something else.


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    #4
    TheLastMohican
    Registered Users Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭TheLastMohican


    charlemont wrote: »
    They are something else.

    Ireland's Finest, Thin Blue Line etc.


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    #5
    grizzly
    Registered Users Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭grizzly


    Do you think it could be due to the pay cuts? Not an excuse, but maybe a reason this keeps happening.


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    Peregrine
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    grizzly wrote: »
    Do you think it could be due to the pay cuts? Not an excuse, but maybe a reason this keeps happening.

    I knew we could blame this on the recession somehow


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    B.A._Baracus
    Registered Users Posts: 11,187 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Que someone saying that's the guards for you.
    Que someone getting back in response saying how the guards are such morally upstanding people.

    Reality is members of the Gardai are just regular people.... some decent, some pricks. Is it shocking that this money went missing? hell no. Let's just call a spade a spade here.


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    Hootanany
    Registered Users Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    carzony wrote: »
    This is really taking the piss? 3rd time and all big amounts. They reckon 27,000 this time, Nice payday :D:D


    http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CEIQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thejournal.ie%2Fthird-sum-of-money-goes-missing-from-a-dublin-garda-premises-942569-Jun2013%2F&ei=v9yzUeXWI-qM7QaajIGIDA&usg=AFQjCNFu8Kb4BwCgrj1E-rrrkZU87cKYfg&sig2=rzUcx46ljYluSj12OVswvg


    I hink they got at your link its all goobledegook.


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    #9
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    We know about it.

    Celebrate the transparency and let's hope the good cops progress from it.

    In many places we would never have even known.


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    #10
    Panthro
    Registered Users Posts: 14,777 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    Said I to the Duchess one night "Sure fock it, we'll chonce it"
    I'd say the same if I seen 27G's sitting in front of me, waiting to be whipped.


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    #11
    hsianloon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭hsianloon


    You wonder what happens to all that weed worth several hundred thousands euros disappear to after getting confiscated.....


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    #12
    bacon n eggs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 423 ✭✭bacon n eggs


    Nice little earner


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    mikehammer67
    Closed Accounts Posts: 699 ✭✭✭mikehammer67


    do we know the 'street value' of the cash yet?


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    Pappa Charlie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 853 ✭✭✭Pappa Charlie


    mikehammer67 wrote: »
    do we know the 'street value' of the cash yet?

    Your street or my street!


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    PizzamanIRL
    Registered Users Posts: 5,148 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    It's like the film 'Brooklyn's Finest'

    The auld Gardaí need the extra cash to get their house insulated for the newborn.


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    Pj!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭Pj!


    mikehammer67 wrote: »
    do we know the 'street value' of the cash yet?

    The 27k had a street value of up to 60k.


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    ChunkyLover_53
    Closed Accounts Posts: 901 ✭✭✭ChunkyLover_53


    Its grand, sure the money is back in the economy now, better than it gathering dust in an evidence room.

    It wasn't even given a fair trial, just locked away in a cop shop to rot.


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    Talib Fiasco
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,428 ✭✭✭Talib Fiasco


    Era, it's probably just out enjoying the sun. It'll be home in a while...


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    Pappa Charlie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 853 ✭✭✭Pappa Charlie


    That's life when you recruit from the general public, you will always get a percentage of bad apples


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    Birroc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭Birroc


    Pappa Charlie wrote: »
    That's life when you recruit from the general public, you will always get a percentage of bad apples

    Ah stop, there is corruption in the Gardaí right up to senior levels. The "bad apples" excuse sickens my hole. Same bull with the Catholic Church. If there are "bad apples" it is up to the organisation in question to root them out, expose them and put processes in place to ensure there are less bad apples in the future. However the Gardaí (and the Church) when exposed to criticism or corruption accusations circle the wagons, close up shop, hide information (even from their own ombudsman) and protect each other to the bitter end. This often means attacking the people questioning their actions. For example - Claire Daly a TD was arrested and handcuffed and placed in a cell for nothing.

    I think the Gardaí force is corrupt and needs to be reformed. We need a lot more transparency. They are becoming a law to themselves.


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    Cypher_sounds
    Registered Users Posts: 8,121 ✭✭✭Cypher_sounds


    I wonder who copped it.


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    Pj!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭Pj!


    Birroc wrote: »

    I think the Gardaí force is corrupt and needs to be reformed. We need a lot more transparency. They are becoming a law to themselves.

    How do you suggest they recruit over 13,000 Gardai without getting a single individual who might be ever tempted to steal?


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    cook_my_sock
    Site Banned Posts: 10 ✭cook_my_sock


    Pj! wrote: »
    How do you suggest they recruit over 13,000 Gardai without getting a single individual who might be ever tempted to steal?


    the poster was referring to systematic corruption , not this isolated case


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    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    It's not about the money, money, money
    We don't need your money, money, money
    We just wanna make the world dance
    Forget about the price tag


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    #25
    Latchy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    '' take the money and run , buy yourself a place in the sun , don't be a fool don't you trust anyone , you gotta learn that lesson my son ''

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFl-2h7gcxI


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    Birroc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭Birroc


    Pj! wrote: »
    How do you suggest they recruit over 13,000 Gardai without getting a single individual who might be ever tempted to steal?

    Simple, change the culture to show accountability. Zero tolerance.
    Investigate complaints quickly and ruthlessly. Fire people who have done wrong or cant do their job. Expose and jail those Gardai who broke the law.
    This makes sure everyone is aware of the repercussions of crossing the line.
    From the top down. The culture among the Gardaí right now stinks and only encourages rule breakers.


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    Paddy De Plasterer
    Registered Users Posts: 360 ✭✭Paddy De Plasterer


    They will have to put it on Crimeline and ask for public assistance !


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    Paddy De Plasterer
    Registered Users Posts: 360 ✭✭Paddy De Plasterer


    Pappa Charlie wrote: »
    That's life when you recruit from the general public, you will always get a percentage of bad apples

    Its not the few bad apples, the whole barrel is rotten.


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    mikehammer67
    Closed Accounts Posts: 699 ✭✭✭mikehammer67


    Paddy De Plasterer wrote: »
    They will have to put it on Crimeline and ask for public assistance !

    "The search is of a number of units used by gardaí for the storage of investigation exhibits"

    lol

    i think maybe someone should tell them the money is gone like..................:pac:


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    Pj!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭Pj!


    Birroc wrote: »
    Simple, change the culture to show accountability. Zero tolerance.
    Investigate complaints quickly and ruthlessly. Fire people who have done wrong or cant do their job. Expose and jail those Gardai who broke the law.
    This makes sure everyone is aware of the repercussions of crossing the line.
    From the top down. The culture among the Gardaí right now stinks and only encourages rule breakers.

    Agree entirely with the bolded part, everyone does. But it will be no surprise to me to see somebody exposed for the theft, provided that somebody is discovered.
    They obviously need to change the current system for storing money.

    I wouldn't agree that the current culture encourages rule breakers.


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    Oranage2
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    Pj! wrote: »
    Agree entirely with the bolded part, everyone does. But it will be no surprise to me to see somebody exposed for the theft, provided that somebody is discovered.
    They obviously need to change the current system for storing money.

    I wouldn't agree that the current culture encourages rule breakers.

    They certainly aren't being discouraging it, the current garda culture is 'I was looking the other way' or keep it quiet as we've seen in recent court cases, you could only imagine the treatment a garda would get if he was to do the right thing and report a rogue colleague which in a way does encourage rule breaking because they know they can get away with it.


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