Creationism: Conspiracy Road Trip (BBC3 9pm tonight)

MagicMarker · 08-10-2012 6:46pm #1

Sounds interesting.

Comedian Andrew Maxwell take five British creationists to the west coast of America to try and convince them that evolution, rather than creationism, explains how we all got here...

No idea why they have to go to America, but sure any excuse eh?

Daftendirekt · 08-10-2012 8:05pm

I hope he brings plenty of aspirin with him. He'll need it after banging his head on that particular wall.

robindch · 08-10-2012 8:53pm

Some Guy wrote:

Comedian Andrew Maxwell [...]

Oh that it were Andy Hamilton, Sandy Toksvig or Stephen Fry.

Still, at least the Beeb's done the right thing and picked a comedian to look into creationism.

doctoremma · 08-10-2012 8:58pm

Apologies for this possibly utterly ridiculous question but....you get the BBC there, on normal telly? I've watched lots of Irish TV and never really taken notice (so obviously not watched it closely). I remember my grandad used to watch loads of snooker so that was probably BBC. Do you get all of our channels?

*searches Sky for RTE channels*

Sin City · 08-10-2012 9:01pm

doctoremma wrote: »

Apologies for this possibly utterly ridiculous question but....you get the BBC there, on normal telly? I've watched lots of Irish TV and never really taken notice (so obviously not watched it closely). I remember my grandad used to watch loads of snooker so that was probably BBC. Do you get all of our channels?

*searches Sky for RTE channels*

We do ineed Doc

Saw his other one about 911 and the conspiracy theorists where he showed them how ridiculous they were

MagicMarker · 08-10-2012 9:03pm

doctoremma wrote: »

Apologies for this possibly utterly ridiculous question but....you get the BBC there, on normal telly? I've watched lots of Irish TV and never really taken notice (so obviously not watched it closely). I remember my grandad used to watch loads of snooker so that was probably BBC. Do you get all of our channels?

*searches Sky for RTE channels*

Yep, BBC 1/2/3/4, CH4, More 4, E4, UTV (ITV) etc...

MagicMarker · 08-10-2012 9:04pm

I already hate these people.

doctoremma · 08-10-2012 9:04pm

MagicMarker wrote: »

Yep, BBC 1/2/3/4, CH4, More 4, E4, UTV (ITV) etc...

Sorry, another Q. When you buy a new TV and auto tune, does BBC One go to the first channel (1, 101, whatever)?

Sin City · 08-10-2012 9:07pm

doctoremma wrote: »

Sorry, another Q. When you buy a new TV and auto tune, does BBC One go to the first channel (1, 101, whatever)?

No , at the races is (if you still got channels without a box) Then its RTE 1 2 etc. BBc starts after them

Liamario · 08-10-2012 9:09pm

I'm looking at it now and I feel like every word out of their mouths has been intelligently designed to piss me off!

krudler · 08-10-2012 9:10pm

doctoremma wrote: »

Apologies for this possibly utterly ridiculous question but....you get the BBC there, on normal telly? I've watched lots of Irish TV and never really taken notice (so obviously not watched it closely). I remember my grandad used to watch loads of snooker so that was probably BBC. Do you get all of our channels?

*searches Sky for RTE channels*

only recently though, we used to have BBC shows transcribed and sent over via telegram, we'd gather round the village fire and be aghast at tales of time travelling doctors and middle aged men driving really elaborate cars.

doctoremma · 08-10-2012 9:13pm

krudler wrote: »

only recently though, we used to have BBC shows transcribed and sent over via telegram, we'd gather round the village fire and be aghast at tales of time travelling doctors and middle aged men driving really elaborate cars.

I thought as much.

Ectoplasm · 08-10-2012 9:15pm

Oh man I spotted this thread and turned on. Gaaah! It is an exercise in frustration...I'm not 100% sure I can watch all of this. My tv is in danger of getting something thrown through it.

FouxDaFaFa · 08-10-2012 9:15pm

Andrew Maxwell? Hmmmm...

Missed the start of this but may take a look later if you guys think it's worth it.

I'm kind of disappointed every time there's a documentary and Louis Theroux isn't there.

Obliq · 08-10-2012 9:17pm

Oh boy. I'm losing the will to live watching this. But I will persevere in the name of fair-mindedness.

Obliq · 08-10-2012 9:28pm

doctoremma wrote: »

Apologies for this possibly utterly ridiculous question but....you get the BBC there, on normal telly? I've watched lots of Irish TV and never really taken notice (so obviously not watched it closely). I remember my grandad used to watch loads of snooker so that was probably BBC. Do you get all of our channels?

*searches Sky for RTE channels*

In Dublin only I think, via analogue (digital now?). In the west here, so have free-to-air satellite channels. RTE not on that of course. All bbc's, itv's and channel 4,5, film4, etc. HD too, yay!

Liamario · 08-10-2012 10:01pm

That show has given me a migraine.
The Northern Ireland guy needs his head kicked in- he wasn't there for truth, but to reaffirm his own ignorance. He didn't get the reaffirmation, so he decided to ignore it and put his fingers in his ears.

The two girls are the only ones with any hope. So frustrating to watch.

Obliq · 08-10-2012 10:06pm

I wouldn't go that far....he was set in his beliefs alright, but looking at his eyes, all I could see was fear masked by defensiveness. The girls were open, but also scared. I felt for the black-haired one who was so worried that if she questioned creationism, it would open the door to questioning her whole belief system. Well, yes.....that is the problem.

JuliusCaesar · 08-10-2012 10:10pm

Belief/faith and science are worlds apart, as Father (Professor) O'Doherty used to tell us when we were designing experiments at university.

Craptacular · 08-10-2012 10:11pm

Sin City wrote: »

Saw his other one about 911 and the conspiracy theorists where he showed them how ridiculous they were

It was the London attacks on 7/7.

Andrew was on a loser here. 7/7 conspiracies are opinions that can be analysed and have the flaws exposed. Creationism is faith based and that's a different kettle of logic & evidence resistant fish.

Delirium · 09-10-2012 11:00am

Show is now up on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oju_lpqa6Ug

joseph brand · 09-10-2012 12:50pm

Well I enjoyed watching this Creationism Road Trip. Maxwell did well, by not pushing the evidence on them too much, just letting the evidence speak for itself, aided slightly by real-life experts in separate fields.

That 'Northie' Phil was his typical self. He's either very dumb or just enjoys getting paid to peddle tripe. A sinister character.

‘You exert an air of subtle menace,’ Maxwell told Phil

I almost feel sorry for Sam. Young and deluded, he looks up to Phil. My guess, is that Sam wants to get into Phil's pants.

At least Maxwell admitted that it would be near impossible to change their minds over the course of the trip, but still, he may have sown some seeds of doubt. Especially amongst viewers watching at home.

Zamboni · 09-10-2012 1:33pm

I like Maxwell and I dislike New Earth Creationists...

..but what a completely utterly futile pointless program.

jackofalltrades · 09-10-2012 1:59pm

Good point in the video at 51:50 where the Professor of Astrophysics puts Phil in his place.

Liamario · 09-10-2012 2:40pm

Phil was a complete and utter douche. I found it both irritating and hilarious that he was disappointed that they never spoke to a creationist geologist.
That's like asking to speak to a cabbage that walks.

5uspect · 09-10-2012 2:43pm

That northern guy was a right creep.

gaius c · 09-10-2012 5:40pm

5uspect wrote: »

That northern guy was a right creep.

Went proper mental about the gay thing, didn't he?
Bit of a closet case maybe?

mewso · 09-10-2012 6:09pm

gaius c wrote: »

Went proper mental about the gay thing, didn't he?
Bit of a closet case maybe?

That avatar had me doing a double-take at your comment gaius as another well known poster using that avatar would no doubt be defending him

I see Maxwell did the same thing with 11/9 and 7/7 conspiracy folks. Just as frustrating to watch but entertaining none the less (all on youtube). I like that Maxwell isn't too overbearing but shows his exasperation just as we might be feeling it.

Corkfeen · 09-10-2012 8:08pm

Repeat of it just started for anyone that missed it, BBC 3. One thing that is already standing out to me already is the fact that they misunderstand the fundamentals of the likes of evolution so much....

mewso · 09-10-2012 8:15pm

Corkfeen wrote: »

Repeat of it just started for anyone that missed it, BBC 3. One thing that is already standing out to me already is the fact that they misunderstand the fundamentals of the likes of evolution so much....

Like so many of these people they misunderstand the fundamentals of science never mind evolution.

Corkfeen · 09-10-2012 8:22pm

mewso wrote: »

Like so many of these people they misunderstand the fundamentals of science never mind evolution.

Indeed, they basically boil inexplicable topics down to 'Well, the thing is god changed physics(Or biology and chemistry) for the day'. I watched his conspiracy theory one from last week and he did manage to change some of their viewpoints but creationists are always going to be a losing battle.

Creationism: Conspiracy Road Trip (BBC3 9pm tonight)

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