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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    mikom wrote: »
    #gravytrain would be better.
    :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Alter-Ego


    #Freewheelin seems to be catching on a bit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Jayyssssissssssssssss, this has turned into an awful ball of sh1te............

    100% true, but life is too short for this crap...

    What's up?


  • Registered Users Posts: 661 ✭✭✭GalwayGaillimh


    Looks like the Gravytrain with biscuit wheels is sprouting wings online

    Si Deus Nobiscum Qui Contra Nos



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 290 ✭✭Canvasser


    I don't see the big deal here. Aren't politicians entitled to free travel when they are representing us in Leinster House?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 500 ✭✭✭who is this


    It always frustrates me when people hesitate to name names on incidents they witnessed themselves. Even if everyone knows who it is (and I'll admit, I didn't know who it was until named) she should still be named and shamed.

    Not naming names just tells us some politicians do xyz. That's not much good when it comes to demanding answers, or election time.

    I get it, if say the TD said something to someone one-on-one. The my word against yours argument could be dangerous. But it really irks me when people hesitate to name names about a factual description of something which happened in public. Negative information isn't always libel.

    Anyway, hopefully the press will pick up the story. They reported the exploding GS3 story before it was verified (and was ultimately proven false).

    Then again, Samsung may be a huge multinational with enormous legal resources, but the Senator makes the law. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Journos crawling all over me. I'm not fond of that, wait til they see all me fookin posts in the Thunderdome. :D

    The story is right, but i can do with out this sh1t.

    There is a social media experiment in that.

    Hmmmm.....


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,560 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    Canvasser wrote: »
    I don't see the big deal here. Aren't politicians entitled to free travel when they are representing us in Leinster House?
    I think before anyone answers this, they should do a quick check of Canvasser's previous posts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,681 ✭✭✭squonk


    Canvasser wrote: »
    I don't see the big deal here. Aren't politicians entitled to free travel when they are representing us in Leinster House?

    I don't believe so. They're entitled to travel expenses but that really shouldn't be seen as 'free travel' and also, in order to claim an expense a TD or Senator would have to have a valid travel ticket in the first place. This Senator did not. Even those legally entitled to free travel under the Free Travel Scheme must produce their pass at a ticket counter and get a ticket before getting on the train. Even in that case, waving the pass at the ticket agent on the train is not acceptable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 911 ✭✭✭sharingan


    Will someone with a twitter account please ask her if she was fined yesterday on a train for not presenting a valid ticket?

    Not implying the OP is making it up I would just like to she how/if she responds

    I think its time to dust off the old election twitter accounts (just like the official politician twitter account, but 100 times funnier). The Fiddle-me-heames one was really funny


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Its giving me fookin palpitations. .

    Contacted you via boards PM I presume.
    Are these journalists "out" on these boards or hidden?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭Captain Darling


    mikom wrote: »
    Contacted you via boards PM I presume.
    Are these journalists "out" on these boards or hidden?

    Nope, they aint. I can do without that stuff. I'm not a press release type of person.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 290 ✭✭Canvasser


    This thread is just a witch hunt of perfectly respectable woman and there is no evidence whatsoever. It's most likely a cock and bull story. In fact the OP has deleted his post because he is clearly unprepared to stand over the allegations. The thread should be locked and deleted and the OP given a ban.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Canvasser wrote: »
    This thread is just a witch hunt of perfectly respectable woman and there is no evidence whatsoever. It's most likely a cock and bull story. In fact the OP has deleted his post because he is clearly unprepared to stand over the allegations. The thread should be locked and deleted and the OP given a ban.

    You know where the report button is buck.


  • Registered Users Posts: 661 ✭✭✭GalwayGaillimh


    I would trust the OP before I would trust you and your kind canvasser

    Si Deus Nobiscum Qui Contra Nos



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,560 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    Canvasser wrote: »
    This thread is just a witch hunt of perfectly respectable woman and there is no evidence whatever. In fact the OP has deleted his post because he is clearly unprepared to stand over the allegations. The thread should be locked and deleted and the OP given a ban.
    Thread has become a witch hunt, ergo we should turn it around and witch hunt the OP?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭RoundyMooney


    Robbo wrote: »
    Thread has become a witch hunt, ergo we should turn it around and witch hunt the OP?

    Well, that is FF logic!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,252 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    squonk wrote: »
    I don't believe so. They're entitled to travel expenses but that really shouldn't be seen as 'free travel' and also, in order to claim an expense a TD or Senator would have to have a valid travel ticket in the first place. This Senator did not. Even those legally entitled to free travel under the Free Travel Scheme must produce their pass at a ticket counter and get a ticket before getting on the train. Even in that case, waving the pass at the ticket agent on the train is not acceptable.
    There are two options available to members of the Oireachtas. They can opt to be paid for vouched expenses, in which case they have to submit documentation and they get reimbursed for their actual spend, or they can opt for the unvouched expenses programme where they got paid a fixed amount (which is lower than the cap for vouched expenses) but do not have to submit receipts. I'm open to correction but I believe that under both programmes the member of the Oireachtas gets a travel allowance for each day they attend Leinster House without needing to show any travel receipts. The senator in question has opted for the unvouched route and claimed €30k last year.

    The point is that she has already been given an allowance by the state to pay her transport costs to and from Leinster House. If the story is true that she refuses to pay for train tickets then she is pocketing the money rather than using it for its intended purpose.


  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Ruben Remus


    Nope, they aint. I can do without that stuff. I'm not a press release type of person.

    I understand where you're coming from, but if you're confident about the accuracy of your account then I don't see the harm in telling reporters exactly what you saw/heard. It sounds like the Senator in question deserves some comeuppance and unless people speak out that won't happen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 441 ✭✭Ddad


    Canvasser wrote: »
    This thread is just a witch hunt of perfectly respectable woman and there is no evidence whatsoever. It's most likely a cock and bull story. In fact the OP has deleted his post because he is clearly unprepared to stand over the allegations. The thread should be locked and deleted and the OP given a ban.

    My, my Canvasser. Whatever happened to "we need more honesty in this country". I think the op was being honest and I'm working on the assumption the OP doesn't want the hassle that's popped up over this. What flavour of honesty would you like? I'm guessing the flavour of honesty that suits your views.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 486 ✭✭DUBACC


    Canvasser wrote: »
    This thread is just a witch hunt of perfectly respectable woman and there is no evidence whatsoever. It's most likely a cock and bull story. In fact the OP has deleted his post because he is clearly unprepared to stand over the allegations. The thread should be locked and deleted and the OP given a ban.


    Oh look - there's another one!


  • Registered Users Posts: 37 eoinmadden


    Another passenger has denied the story.

    Look for #FDHFare on Twitter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭RoundyMooney


    Nope, they aint. I can do without that stuff. I'm not a press release type of person.

    You're quite entitled to tell them that you stand over the story, but don't wish to court any attention.

    Your OP (which has been screenied in one or two places, as you probably know) can do the talking for you.

    There were other people on board the train, and FG have already been approached with at least one media request for a comment, so they can hardly deny it.

    Your work is done!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 290 ✭✭Canvasser


    I would trust the OP before I would trust you and your kind canvasser

    My kind? That's an extremely bigoted comment. All I'm asking for is some evidence. Could the OP even post a picture of his train ticket or tell us what time train this was so we could check if Healy Eames was even on it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 220 ✭✭Caillte


    eoinmadden wrote: »
    Another passenger has denied the story.

    Look for #FDHFare on Twitter.

    That seems to be the end of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    It's the end of this thread anyway. Since this thread is in the public domain now and have got wings I won't delete it, yet.


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