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Leaving Cert '11/'12 Off-Topic 2

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    #1772
    Eathrin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,076 ✭✭✭Eathrin


    Togepi wrote: »
    Technically if you only do four there is a chance you won't have any poet on the day. :P But that chance is really small, so it's up to you!

    You have a chance of 1.4% of getting fúcked over in that case.
    Like I said before, trends count for something.
    So probability is virtually 0.


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    #1773
    Togepi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,813 ✭✭✭Togepi


    Eathrin wrote: »
    Okay here's a really interesting stat I've just worked out.

    First of all who are the three least likely poets to appear on our exam?
    Frost, Boland, Kavanagh most would say. Assume the probability of any two of these appearing is 0.
    Now if you're a person who likes to analyse trends this applies to you. If you study 2 poets the chances of 1 of them appearing is 93%. Not bad huh?
    That's what I'm going with anyway.

    Is that just taking those three out of the equation altogether? Sure you can't do that! :eek:

    Mental. :pac:


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    #1774
    Eathrin
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    Togepi wrote: »
    Is that just taking those three out of the equation altogether? Sure you can't do that! :eek:

    Mental. :pac:

    No take any two you like out of the equation of Frost, Boland and Kavanagh and p=93%
    If you don't it's closer to p=80% which isn't a bad gamble in itself.


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    #1775
    Namlub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,298 ✭✭✭Namlub


    THEY'RE MAKING THE EXAMS LESS PREDICTABLE, EVERYTHING YOU THINK WILL COME UP WON'T AND EVERYTHING YOU DON'T THINK IS GOING TO COME UP WILL. THERE IS NO HOPE

    /paranoid pigeon


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    #1776
    Con_Con93
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    finality wrote: »
    Doesn't that give 98%?

    Oh god. I hate probability. :(

    Ya, it does. 93% is the answer, just for it to be confirmed once and for all :P .


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    #1777
    PictureFrame
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    Namlub wrote: »
    They might be absolute snakes and put Boland on just because she seems so unlikely. But honestly I can't see Plath and/or Heaney not coming up so I'm going to spend way more time on them than Boland (doing Rich and Kavanagh as well)
    Or Frost and Boland..


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    #1778
    Mysteriouschic
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    But if you did learn 4/5 wouldn't at least 2 of those poets come up :S? you'd just have less choice .


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    #1779
    Togepi
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    Mysteriouschic wrote: »
    But if you did learn 4/5 wouldn't at least 2 of those poets come up :S? you'd just have less choice .

    No, seeing as there's 8 poets and 4 come up, if you just do 4 then the 4 you don't do could come up (very unlikely). If you do 5 you're guaranteed 1, and there's a 93% chance there'll be at least 2 you've studied on the paper. :D


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    #1780
    Mysteriouschic
    Registered Users Posts: 4,391 ✭✭✭Mysteriouschic


    Togepi wrote: »
    No, seeing as there's 8 poets and 4 come up, if you just do 4 then the 4 you don't do could come up (very unlikely). If you do 5 you're guaranteed 1, and there's a 93% chance there'll be at least 2 you've studied on the paper. :D

    Oh yeah true . I might try and learn Larkin I have a feeling he might come up . I still need to go over Kavanagh. I guess I should try and have 5 poets. I do have 5 at the moment but Bolands unlikely and I'm not bothering with her so I just have 4 really. My teachers only going over paper 1 now too , but paper 1 is usually my strongest well it was in ordinary anyway might be different in honours.


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    #1781
    Eathrin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,076 ✭✭✭Eathrin


    Togepi wrote: »
    No, seeing as there's 8 poets and 4 come up, if you just do 4 then the 4 you don't do could come up (very unlikely). If you do 5 you're guaranteed 1, and there's a 93% chance there'll be at least 2 you've studied on the paper. :D

    Very nicely presented:p


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    #1782
    Togepi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,813 ✭✭✭Togepi


    Hey, hey, hey guys! Turns out I was right the whole time...
    Togepi wrote: »
    Can any mathsy person work out the probability of having at least 2 of your poets come up on the day if you study 5?

    I tried it and I got 93%, surely that's way off?!

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    (I actually got 92.67% the first time. 0.2% of a difference... Way off!!) :P


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    #1783
    Namlub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,298 ✭✭✭Namlub


    Was just looking at the chart thingy for Biology, seems like they left a load of stuff out last year? As in human reproduction didn't come up for the first time ever, they didn't ask plant reproduction, blood, heart, breathing, nervous system, skeleton, viruses, defence system...no idea if that means anything for us, but yeah.


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    #1784
    Siobhnk
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    Namlub wrote: »
    Was just looking at the chart thingy for Biology, seems like they left a load of stuff out last year? As in human reproduction didn't come up for the first time ever, they didn't ask plant reproduction, blood, heart, breathing, nervous system, skeleton, viruses, defence system...no idea if that means anything for us, but yeah.

    They have a new lad in making the papers and last year was his first year setting a paper, so it's not likely he'll stick to past trends... :/


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    #1785
    Fergus_
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    Getting a tad worried, I'm not sure whether I'm confident for the exams at this stage, I don't feel like I put in enough work

    We'll see how it goes with the following weeks


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    #1786
    Namlub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,298 ✭✭✭Namlub


    Ohh, so anything could come up this year then. Yay.


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    #1787
    Fergus_
    Registered Users Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Fergus_


    If you haven't got the "Rapid Revision" book, I really recommend it. It has the key points in each chapter summarized nicely.


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    #1788
    finality
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    For some reason I can't use revision books, I just can't seem to learn anything from them.


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    #1789
    Meowth
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    finality wrote: »
    For some reason I can't use revision books, I just can't seem to learn anything from them.

    Same I think they cut down the info too much :O and the layout of them aint nice :O I cant learn stuff thats typed out mostly either so I have to handwrite things an awful lot :O I hate like loose sheets and stuff too :rolleyes: So basically I'm really picky :L


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    #1790
    finality
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    Historykitten wrote: »
    Same I think they cut down the info too much :O and the layout of them aint nice :O I cant learn stuff thats typed out mostly either so I have to handwrite things an awful lot :O I hate like loose sheets and stuff too :rolleyes: So basically I'm really picky :L

    Yeah I like writing things out too. :P I got revision books for chemistry and physics, tried to use the chem one a while ago but things are worded differently in it or it does the experiments differently and it just confuses me. I think I'll be sticking with the book.

    And I sort of feel like the book is the bible of chemistry and nothing that isn't in it can come up, I don't trust revision books to cover everything :L


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    #1791
    Togepi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,813 ✭✭✭Togepi


    I can't sleep now. :( Just keep thinking about probability. :pac:


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    #1792
    Eathrin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,076 ✭✭✭Eathrin


    Togepi wrote: »
    I can't sleep now. :( Just keep thinking about probability. :pac:

    Take comfort knowing that LC questions tend to be very one dimensional!


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    #1793
    Togepi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,813 ✭✭✭Togepi


    Eathrin wrote: »
    Take comfort knowing that LC questions tend to be very one dimensional!

    Haha yeah that's true. :D I still need to revise that section though, I'm awful at it now and I aced it when we did it first!


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    #1794
    Mysteriouschic
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    I was just wondering could you imagine if it was like the English system where we did A levels but only did 3 subjects. I don't know if you just go in to those subjects in more detail. An maths wasn't compulsory it's your choice whether to do maths.


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    #1795
    Bears and Vodka
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    What would be a good idea is to study the likely poets (Sylvia, Larkin..) and an unlikely one (Paddy Kavanagh). That way if the predicted poets come up youre grand, if SEC decide to troll you youre covered.


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    #1796
    JonnyMcNamee
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    subz3r0 wrote: »
    What would be a good idea is to study the likely poets (Sylvia, Larkin..) and an unlikely one (Paddy Kavanagh). That way if the predicted poets come up youre grand, if SEC decide to troll you youre covered.
    'tis my plan in a nutshell :p


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    #1797
    JonnyMcNamee
    Registered Users Posts: 405 ✭✭JonnyMcNamee


    subz3r0 wrote: »
    What would be a good idea is to study the likely poets (Sylvia, Larkin..) and an unlikely one (Paddy Kavanagh). That way if the predicted poets come up youre grand, if SEC decide to troll you youre covered.
    'tis my plan in a nutshell :p


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    #1798
    Canard
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    Siobhnk wrote: »
    They have a new lad in making the papers and last year was his first year setting a paper, so it's not likely he'll stick to past trends... :/
    Is that just for biology or for everything?! :eek:


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    #1799
    ConTheCat
    Registered Users Posts: 842 ✭✭✭ConTheCat


    Less than a month left and I care less now than ever :( My boyf in 5th year is doing more than me!


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    #1800
    Mysteriouschic
    Registered Users Posts: 4,391 ✭✭✭Mysteriouschic


    Loads of people have been leaving and are now studying at home.
    I'm not sure whether to do the same I do get more work done. I keep taking certain days off to study and probably tomorrow. I'm thinking I might start but just go in for english while it's on and it's mostly on in the afternoon or just before lunch one day and I only live up the road. Then english can be really empty one day no one might be in. I left early today as I was getting nothing done.


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    #1801
    Meowth
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,918 ✭✭✭Meowth


    Mysteriouschic wrote: »
    Loads of people have been leaving and are now studying at home.
    I'm not sure whether to do the same I do get more work done. I keep taking certain days off to study and probably tomorrow. I'm thinking I might start but just go in for english while it's on and it's mostly on in the afternoon or just before lunch one day and I only live up the road. Then english can be really empty one day no one might be in. I left early today as I was getting nothing done.
    Left early too :/ nobody in and even though there were a few teachers wasted time complaining bout it :( goin to library in town much better than that tbh :o


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