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World Snooker Championship 2012

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    #662
    deafroadrunner
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    based on the last couple frames. carter to win


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    #663
    purple_hatstand
    Registered Users Posts: 441 ✭✭purple_hatstand


    Stephen looks like he could snap his cue in half at any moment...


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    #664
    califano
    Registered Users Posts: 5,440 ✭✭✭califano


    If a player at the table trails by 19pts and there is only 18pts on (blue,pink,black) but he miss counts and thinks he only needs the last 3 colours to win and pots the blue and pink and prepares for the black. Will the black be a scoring ball on that visit or will the ref call the frame to the opponent after he pots the pink seeing you cant play for snookers on the black?.

    I ask because bookies do points spreads under/over 101pts so wondering would the black be eligible to count as a scoring ball or not. I suspect not but im not sure the rule.


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    #665
    zack01
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    rounders123 wrote: »
    If a player at the table trails by 19pts and there is only 18pts on (blue,pink,black) but he miss counts and thinks he only needs the last 3 colours to win and pots the blue and pink and prepares for the black. Will the black be a scoring ball on that visit or will the ref call the frame to the opponent after he pots the pink seeing you cant play for snookers on the black?.

    I ask because bookies do points spreads under/over 101pts so wondering would the black be eligible to count as a scoring ball or not. I suspect not but im not sure the rule.

    Great question, strictly speaking the frame is over if there is more than 7 pts in it on the black, therefore if the player reaches the black and is 8 behind the frame is over.


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    Permabear
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    #667
    Pighead
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    Quick question regarding an incident that happened yesterday in the Carter V Jones game. In one of the later frames Jones jawed the white ball leaving Carter snookered in the jaws of the pocket unable to hit the reds. It took him four or five efforts but he did eventually swerved the white to hit the red.

    I was wondering what would happen if Carter had absolutely no shot on ie if it was impossible to hit the red. Would he have to keep on trying, giving away fouls until his opponent had enough points to deem the frame over or would the ref give him some leeway seeing as there is no shot on?


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    #668
    califano
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    Yeah ive often imagined the occurrence i suggested as a backer in a foxhole!.


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    #669
    Permabear
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    #670
    Turtwig
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    Anyone remember this from several years ago? Confused the hell out of me at the time.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX8OJQqicFw


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    #671
    zack01
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    Permabear wrote: »
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    Well if you are counting points scored, well yes the points he accumulates are off course counted.
    No ruling states you cannot play on no matter what is left on the table, in some instances players who have been kept off the table will take the opportunity to get their arm going as such


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    #672
    deafroadrunner
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    Jernal wrote: »
    Anyone remember this from several years ago? Confused the hell out of me at the time.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX8OJQqicFw

    i remember watching that match. vergo still using his fractions catchphrase :)


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    #673
    babymanval
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    zack01 wrote: »
    One of the nicest players I forgot to mention and he'd never forgive me is Joe Swail, an absolute diamond

    Joe's a lovely fella. I got in a fight in a nightclub in Sheffield in 2002 for him when some geezer stuck the head on him for no reason because the fella's missus kept comin over and talkin to Joe!

    I may have been involved in a few hotel singsongs with you after hours man, does your name begin with an M? I was only a freshfaced 16-21 yo durin my snooker travellin days with Mick Judge.


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    #674
    zack01
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    babymanval wrote: »
    Joe's a lovely fella. I got in a fight in a nightclub in Sheffield in 2002 for him when some geezer stuck the head on him for no reason because the fella's missus kept comin over and talkin to Joe!

    I may have been involved in a few hotel singsongs with you after hours man, does your name begin with an M? I was only a freshfaced 16-21 yo durin my snooker travellin days with Mick Judge.

    No not me but I know exactly who your talking about, he travelled with Ken after I retired in 2003!!
    He's since fallen out with Ken, says a lot about someone when you can fall out with Ken Doherty.
    No doubt we've met, pity Mick isnt on the tour anymore, very fond of Mick and a hell of a player to boot.


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    #675
    Pighead
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    Permabear wrote: »
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    So is it totally up to the referee to decide if the shot is impossible or not? Like if Carter had missed that shot say 20 times in a row yesterday would the ref keep on calling miss or would there be a point where he'd eventually say enough is enough.


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    #676
    zack01
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    Pighead wrote: »
    So is it totally up to the referee to decide if the shot is impossible or not? Like if Carter had missed that shot say 20 times in a row yesterday would the ref keep on calling miss or would there be a point where he'd eventually say enough is enough.

    He can keep calling a miss until the snookers required stage is reached or the other player sportingly doesn't take the miss or the refs deems it a fair attempt. These days though you really have to get out of the snooker for it not to be called such is the standard.


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    #677
    cherryghost
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    Ali wins a very mediocre first session 5-3


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    #678
    Lucutus
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    cherryghost wrote: »
    Ali wins a very mediocre first session 5-3

    Thanks, can't watch today... work getting in the way...


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    #679
    zack01
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    cherryghost wrote: »
    Ali wins a very mediocre first session 5-3

    Maguire behind for the first time in the tournament, Carter played that session exactly how you do against a player like Maguire.


    PS
    Can anyone tell me how I can put photos up on this forum from my phone please


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    #680
    purple_hatstand
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    Jernal wrote: »
    Anyone remember this from several years ago? Confused the hell out of me at the time.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX8OJQqicFw

    here's the post-match explanation from the ref...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT6JFuT9PWk


    ...that 'loophole' has since been closed although the "foul & a miss" rule still seems a bit unknowable - somebody said in commentary the other day that after a 3rd unsuccessful attempt at the same shot (with a miss called), the frame would be forfeit and yet Ronnie had 9 goes at the same red in his 2nd-round match against Mark Williams...:confused::eek:


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    Permabear
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    Permabear
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    #683
    zack01
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    cherryghost wrote: »
    Enjoy, take some photos and share them with us, won't you? :D

    btw I now officially hate Thursday mornings. It's so boring! :p

    Can any one explain how i can upload to this forum from my phone?


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    Permabear
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    #685
    Lucutus
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    zack01 wrote: »
    Can any one explain how i can upload to this forum from my phone?

    Yes, you need to upload them somewhere on the web and then link to them. pix.ie is a handy site for that, also, I know photobucket has apps for android and ios.

    Then just link them in your post with the insert image icon insertimage.gif

    Detailed thread over here about it.


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    #686
    _feedback_
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    zack01 wrote: »
    Can any one explain how i can upload to this forum from my phone?

    It'd be a slight bit awkward on Boards mobile. Depending on the phone you are using. You'd need an app to resize the photo as it would be massive, another to upload the photo to a host site (something like flickr), , and then just get the link of the photo and use the [IMG][/IMG] tags.

    Would be fantastic to see some, if you can figure out the handiest way for yourself.

    EDIT: If you have a twitter page, it would be really easy to share the photos with us!


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    #687
    Silvio.Dante
    Site Banned Posts: 4,066 ✭✭✭Silvio.Dante


    zack01 wrote: »
    Can any one explain how i can upload to this forum from my phone?

    Sorry mate I'm a tech-idiot. I'd love to see some of your pics though...:)


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    #688
    zack01
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    Permabear wrote: »
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    It's a tough rule to enforce sometimes, players are feeling that their integrity is being called into question sometimes, there was a vote last year to (a) change the rule slightly and (b) do away with the rule completely. The players voted to keep it and called on the referees to use their better judgement in these circumstances.

    I'm sure a lot of the lads on here remember shortly after it was introduced, Ken Doherty was playing Steve Davis in The Irish Masters in Goffs, at 4-4 Ken left Davis in the baulk area, Davis could see several reds but tried to clip the more difficult red and return the white to baulk. He missed twice, John Williams the referee warned him what would happen if he were to miss again, Davis played the same shot missed and the match was awarded to Doherty.
    The funny thing was hardly anybody in the audience knew what had just happened !!


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    Permabear
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    #690
    Turtwig
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    I was under the impression a miss could only be called if there was an easier escape for the player to take. Otherwise it was simply just a foul.:confused:


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    zack01
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    Permabear wrote: »
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    Could not agree more with you there. It's funny but one of the worst offenders was Willie Thorne, and he's one of the most critical of all the commentators. He was actually so well known for doing it that in clubs you would hear someone say 'you just played a Willie there' !


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