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Do Purple Irish Rail Tickets Breach Data Protection?

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    #32
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    Then why aren't both of the passengers paying?

    The subvention could be reduced if pass holders were made to contribute something for their journeys.

    And before you say that they just wouldn't travel then that proves that passes are being used for nonessential travel if people can decide to not bother once they are asked for a couple of quid towards their ticket that they previously got for nothing.
    But passes are not just for essential travel! There is nothing in law or the free travel scheme rules and guidelines stating that free travel can only be used when absolutely necessary. There is no limit on the amount of travel any one person can avail of.

    The passes are to enable pensioners and others entitled to free travel to travel when they otherwise would not have travelled because it may be beneficial to them in terms of getting out of the house, blood circulation, exercise(very important after operations), medical appointments etc as well as for social purposes. most of the persons entitled are not well off and because of their disability and circumstances wont be as affluent as some posters would like us to think so would not be in a position to pay for buses and trains for the journeys they would need to take.

    And you expect people not to have a problem with that?

    Times are tough for everyone and yet you think that it is ok to give certain people completely free, unlimited use, nationwide travel so that they can use it for their leisure and socialising?

    How is that fair to fare paying customers?


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    #33
    [Deleted User]
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    Trekker tickets are the same colour. I know because I got one.


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    #34
    foggy_lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    And you expect people not to have a problem with that?

    Times are tough for everyone and yet you think that it is ok to give certain people completely free, unlimited use, nationwide travel so that they can use it for their leisure and socialising?

    How is that fair to fare paying customers?
    I have no problem with it as i know some people who have free travel, some elderly and some disabled and they are not the sort of wasters that many people on Commuting & Transport believe they are.

    For someone with a disability or mobility impairment living in Carlow or Waterford or any large town a trip to Dublin can cost a lot more than the normal person has to pay, There is usually €12-€20 or more to be paid for a taxi to and from the bus or train in the town they live and possibly more taxis in Dublin if going to a hospital appointment. This is usually more than most people pay for their normal return fare to Dublin and this cost can greatly increase if the person lives in a rural setting.

    In reality for many free travel pass holders it barely allows them to travel at the same cost as everyone else.


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    #35
    billy the squid
    Registered Users Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid


    Hilly Bill wrote: »
    No, its paying for a journey on a train. If the train was full, why should a person that paid cash for the journey have to stand when a person on free travel gets a seat? Thats just a scenario only .

    perhaps because the person using the pass is incapable of standing?


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    #36
    Aard
    Registered Users Posts: 4,905 ✭✭✭Aard


    How many others will now be looking out for purple tickets next time they take the train? :P

    Seriously, foggy, I don't think anybody knows about this (even the purple-ticket holders themselves).


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    #37
    dowlingm
    Registered Users Posts: 5,309 ✭✭✭dowlingm


    Why is this even a question anymore. It's been shown Purple tickets are NOT solely used by SW holders. So where's the discrimination?


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    #38
    Hilly Bill
    Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    billy the squid wrote: »
    perhaps because the person using the pass is incapable of standing?

    then they would be in a wheelchair wont they? Im only talking about the ones that could stand.


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    #39
    flyingsnail
    Registered Users Posts: 2,752 ✭✭✭flyingsnail


    Hilly Bill wrote: »
    then they would be in a wheelchair wont they? Im only talking about the ones that could stand.

    What about people who could walk a short distance but might not be able to stand for a prolonged period? Or may may be unsteady on their feet and the jostling movement of the train may be enough to knock them over?


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    #40
    Hilly Bill
    Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    flyingsnail wrote: »
    What about people who could walk a short distance but might not be able to stand for a prolonged period? Or may may be unsteady on their feet and the jostling movement of the train may be enough to knock them over?

    You have missed the point, not all with a free pass have a disability of sorts.


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    #41
    foggy_lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    Hilly Bill wrote: »
    You have missed the point, not all with a free pass have a disability of sorts.
    While for Irish Rail anyone who is disabled is either able to walk as good as anyone else or is confined to a wheelchair, there is no middle ground! You just have to look at the new footbridges they are building where disabled persons are expected to walk distances of up to a kilometre to cross the railway. Ah sure wont they be in a wheelchair if they are truly disabled!


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    #42
    goingnowhere
    Registered Users Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    But the new bridges comply with the accessibility legislation which mandates a certain slope for ramps and requires that every certain number of steps there is a landing

    You can't have it every way, you blame Irish Rail for doing A but the law says they must do A and if you actually had worked with people with the full range of disabilities as I have you have no idea how much better it makes life


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    #43
    Hilly Bill
    Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    While for Irish Rail anyone who is disabled is either able to walk as good as anyone else or is confined to a wheelchair, there is no middle ground! You just have to look at the new footbridges they are building where disabled persons are expected to walk distances of up to a kilometre to cross the railway. Ah sure wont they be in a wheelchair if they are truly disabled!

    What are you on about now?


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