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Over 5,000 have child benefit suspended

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  • 06-01-2012 11:52pm
    #1
    battries not included
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    Anyone really surprised by this?


    More than 5,600 people have had their child benefit for January suspended for failing to respond to a Department of Social Protection check on details and entitlements



    Link:

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0106/welfare.html


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    Sky King
    Registered Users Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    I'm not surprised by anything anymore.


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    ThePower11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 554 ✭✭✭ThePower11


    No, sure isn't half of Nigeria getting Irish Child Benefit.


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    Show Time
    Registered Users Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭Show Time


    ThePower11 wrote: »
    No, sure isn't half of Nigeria getting Irish Child Benefit.
    And Poland.


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    Kiera
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    Moblie:
    5,672 people have had their child benefit for January suspended for failing to respond to a Department of Social Protection check on details and entitlements.

    The Department contacted 63,000 recipients by post last September to confirm that they still reside in Ireland and satisfy the conditions for child benefit.

    Any of those people who did not write back within 42 days had their payments suspended - meaning they will have to go without children's allowance this month.

    The Department says payments will be reinstated if people provide the requisite information.

    Arrears will be paid once entitlement has been confirmed.

    The Department says this is part of their ongoing control work to ensure resources go to those who need them most.


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    #6
    battries not included
    Registered Users Posts: 734 ✭✭✭battries not included


    Show Time wrote: »
    And Poland.

    and UK,

    members of a certain 'indigenous people' claiming across the border...


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    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    You can be fairly confident a large chunk of that number are recently emigrated Irish folk.

    God damn mutherfukkin xenophobia starts to grind in AH.


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    admiralofthefleet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    ThePower11 wrote: »
    No, sure isn't half of Nigeria getting Irish Child Benefit.
    Show Time wrote: »
    And Poland.

    .


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    Doom
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Doom


    I'd say alot of Irish people are in this too, how many have left for Oz etc and still getting it.


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    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    think_of_the_children.jpg
    Sky King wrote: »
    I'm not surprised by anything anymore.

    Not even by surprises?


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    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    ThePower11 wrote: »
    No, sure isn't half of Nigeria getting Irish Child Benefit.
    Showtime wrote:
    And Poland.
    .
    And the Roma get the other two thirds. Terrible.


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    Carter P Fly
    Registered Users Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Carter P Fly


    typically irish of the Dept to wait over a month for people to respond ensuring those 5k+ fraudsters get an additional payment.


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    baldbear
    Registered Users Posts: 5,518 ✭✭✭baldbear


    Doom wrote: »
    I'd say alot of Irish people are in this too, how many have left for Oz etc and still getting it.

    103?


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    Kristopherus
    Registered Users Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    And ye all thought Brutal Joan was doing nothing. Now with the Pensioners as well, she is 2 - 0 up:D:D:D:D:D


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    smallBiscuit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭smallBiscuit


    Those letters are standard, we got one when our eldest finished school.
    Basically, it said prove she was still in school or we've be cut off. She wasn't, do we were, no biggie. I'd say they are using that as a kinda, look we're doing something message


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    stupidusername
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    I dislike how there's non stories started in here just as a way to bring up a certain topic. so child benefit... payments suspended because they didn't respond to a letter... they must be all gone home to Nigeria for the Christmas... they'll be all caught out now... bla bla bla


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    Mint Sauce
    Registered Users Posts: 29,294 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Might save us a few quid.


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    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Ireland without child benefit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nigeria.


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    #19
    battries not included
    Registered Users Posts: 734 ✭✭✭battries not included


    I think it will give the respondents time to make fraudulent paperwork and of course they will then get the payments backdated.

    42 days is enough time to respond with relevant paperwork...


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    G_R
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,024 Mod ✭✭✭✭G_R


    As well as all the fordiners who are takin our money, there are also genuine cases.

    My mam for example. She has moved house since she started claiming child benefit, therefore didn't get the letter. She only found out about it when she rang the bank to see where the money was and the lady in the phone from the bank told her.

    She rang them. She has to change her.address with them by filling out a form and posting it back, over the phone won't do, and then once that's confirmed, she'll be sent the letter again, which she has to return and will then receive her benefit again next month, provided all the above gets done in time.

    I understand why they are doing this, but a radio/ tv ad campaign to let people know would have gone amis.


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    ThePower11
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    stupidusername wrote: »
    I dislike how there's non stories started in here just as a way to bring up a certain topic. so child benefit... payments suspended because they didn't respond to a letter... they must be all gone home to Nigeria for the Christmas... they'll be all caught out now... bla bla bla
    Well then don't read them threads then, simple really. And by even posting that little rant you are now following this thread. :rolleyes:


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    admiralofthefleet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    what about the people who dont have it but should?

    my son was born in october and we registered him soon after. we still havent recieved child benefit


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    #23
    stupidusername
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    Grand_Rajnah wrote: »
    As well as all the fordiners who are takin our money, there are also genuine cases.

    My mam for example. She has moved house since she started claiming child benefit, therefore didn't get the letter. She only found out about it when she rang the bank to see where the money was and the lady in the phone from the bank told her.

    She rang them. She has to change her.address with them by filling out a form and posting it back, over the phone won't do, and then once that's confirmed, she'll be sent the letter again, which she has to return and will then receive her benefit again next month, provided all the above gets done in time.

    I understand why they are doing this, but a radio/ tv ad campaign to let people know would have gone amis.

    but when you're collecting child benefit, you bring your little book don't you? which has your name and address on it? which would surely stand out as something you have to change when you move house?
    ThePower11 wrote: »
    Well then don't read them threads then, simple really. And by even posting that little rant you are now following this thread. :rolleyes:

    it's hard not to, because there's so many of them.


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    LighterGuy
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    Tell you what guys,
    The real secret is to find yourself some nigerian girl and give her a baby ... she collects the child benefit, rents cheap from the council... and you unofficially live with her :pac:

    I know I make a joke of it. But can you blame anyone for working the system?


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    El Weirdo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,646 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    stupidusername wrote: »
    but when you're collecting child benefit, you bring your little book don't you? which has your name and address on it? which would surely stand out as something you have to change when you move house?
    No. It can be paid into the bank.

    I know ours is, anyway.


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    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Grand_Rajnah wrote: »
    there are also genuine cases.

    My mam for example. She has moved house since she started claiming child benefit, therefore didn't get the letter. She only found out about it when she rang the bank to see where the money was and the lady in the phone from the bank told her.

    She rang them. She has to change her.address with them

    The department are not mind readers :confused:

    If you change address of course you need to inform them


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    stupidusername
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    No. It can be paid into the bank.

    I know ours is, anyway.

    hmmm, my sisters isn't. well that'd go somewhat towards forgetting, but still.


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    G_R
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,024 Mod ✭✭✭✭G_R


    stupidusername wrote: »
    Grand_Rajnah wrote: »
    As well as all the fordiners who are takin our money, there are also genuine cases.

    My mam for example. She has moved house since she started claiming child benefit, therefore didn't get the letter. She only found out about it when she rang the bank to see where the money was and the lady in the phone from the bank told her.

    She rang them. She has to change her.address with them by filling out a form and posting it back, over the phone won't do, and then once that's confirmed, she'll be sent the letter again, which she has to return and will then receive her benefit again next month, provided all the above gets done in time.

    I understand why they are doing this, but a radio/ tv ad campaign to let people know would have gone amis.

    but when you're collecting child benefit, you bring your little book don't you? which has your name and address on it? which would surely stand out as something you have to change when you move house

    Paid by bank transfer


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    Mountainsandh
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    my children's benefit goes straight into my account.

    Re- the letters, they are standard practice, don't see why they're mentioning that now. I'm French, and so I receive these letters at least twice a year, just fill in the form, and off it goes. One letter got lost once, and they stopped our payments, and I let it drag since it was holiday time, etc... so just got it back dated when I came back. They're no big deal, and I have to say the staff that answered my phonecalls for the back dating were really efficient and lovely, that makes a nice change.


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    El Weirdo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,646 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    stupidusername wrote: »
    hmmm, my sisters isn't. well that'd go somewhat towards forgetting, but still.
    AFAIK, you can choose to collect it. I wasn't aware of this until I heard some piece on the radio yesterday morning.


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    EGAR
    Registered Users Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭EGAR


    There was no paperwork to supply, just a form to sign and all they wanted to know was which school did he go to or what GP did he attend (you could choose which info to give). That was it.


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