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My School. 1980's. HSE and Headmaster child abuse!

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  • #2
    Degsy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    Sounds like the standard school medical exam.


  • #3
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    No, but maybe posting about it here isn't a great idea unless you've taken an official line of action first?


  • #4
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Brightest_Nite wrote: »
    talking about scooby doo.

    They would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for those meddlin' kids


  • #5
    starbelgrade
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    Scoooby doooobie doooooooo!


  • #6
    Degsy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    *unmasks the fake representative*

    "It was Elmer Dobhew..the nightwatchman!"


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  • #7
    Gummy Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Are you sure the children weren't fondled and were actually medically examined?


  • #8
    Brightest_Nite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34 ✭Brightest_Nite


    One thing I find very interesting here. My thread is tagged with the words "Nonsense" "Garbage". Strange, when you consider that I created the thread, therefore its up to me to create the tags, But I did not tag it with those 2 words. Is there someone here a little scared of relevations coming out????????????????????? Huh??????????????????


  • #9
    citizen_p
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭citizen_p


    Degsy wrote: »
    Sounds like the standard school medical exam.


    ??? i dont remember this, went to school in the 90 s though, so it wasnt standard when i was growing up.


  • #10
    Gummy Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Mousey- wrote: »
    ??? i dont remember this, went to school in the 90 s though, so it wasnt standard when i was growing up.

    I went to primary school in late 80s/early 90s. I remember this exam. No teachers were involved. A female doctor and a 1-2 female nurses.


  • #11
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Brightest_Nite wrote: »
    One thing I find very interesting here. My thread is tagged with the words "Nonsense" "Garbage". Strange, when you consider that I created the thread, therefore its up to me to create the tags, But I did not tag it with those 2 words. Is there someone here a little scared of relevations coming out????????????????????? Huh??????????????????

    No. Just someone with more sense than you.


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  • #12
    Burkatron
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    mikom wrote: »
    They would have gotten away with it too if they hadn't meddled with those kids

    FYP....


    I couldn't resist the obvious joke :(


  • #13
    Degsy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    Mousey- wrote: »
    ??? i dont remember this, went to school in the 90 s though, so it wasnt standard when i was growing up.

    They did it when i was in school..it always created a big stir amongst the kids.
    A fat nurse would arrive and give you a going over..you were weighed,measured and had your eyes and teeth looked at.
    The highlight(not) was when she cupped your balls and told you to cough..this,i later found out was to test for improperly descended testicles.


  • #14
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I went to school in the 70's early 80's and don't remember this. One exam for spinal development but that was lift your shirt and a female nurse had a look, no pictures of our wobbly bits involved.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • #15
    BluesBerry
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    I was in primary school in the mid 80's I remember getting an exam but I stayed in my vest and knickers I had to walk on a sponge floor in my bare feet it was something to do with posture I think and it was nurses doing it


  • #16
    foxinsox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭foxinsox


    Have you taken official action on this?

    If any of these things mentioned above did happen at your school I would not think that here is the place to be discussing it.

    If any of my teachers or anyone in authority had ever done any of that to me I would be sickened at the thought that it is being discussed in this forum.

    Surely there is a more appropriate place for it.

    Already mentioned by another poster:

    You would want to be very sure of facts before you go making a sweeping statement on here about the HSE.

    I'm not saying that I don't believe it happened, just this isn't the place.


  • #17
    ScumLord
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    I didn't get fondled in school. :(


  • #18
    Degsy
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    Wibbs wrote: »
    no pictures of our wobbly bits involved.

    They probably just didnt wanna look:D


  • #19
    SadieSue
    Registered Users Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭SadieSue


    Wibbs wrote: »
    I went to school in the 70's early 80's and don't remember this. One exam for spinal development but that was lift your shirt and a female nurse had a look, no pictures of our wobbly bits involved.

    Yeah I remember this test you just had to remove your shirt. They put a ruler or something on your back and then you put your shirt back on.


  • #20
    Brightest_Nite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34 ✭Brightest_Nite


    Gummy Panda wrote: »
    Are you sure the children weren't fondled and were actually medically examined?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sexual_abuse
    "physical contact with the child's genitals, viewing of the child's genitalia without physical contact, or using a child to produce child pornography".

    Both eaminers were male. 1 was the headmaster. A headmaster is not a doctor. The letters were issued by HSE. Any wonder there is loads of images of naked kids on the net.


  • #21
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Fuckin tags are dynamite on this thread. :D


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  • #22
    Degsy
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    foxinsox wrote: »
    Have you taken official action on this?

    If any of these things mentioned above did happen at your school I would not think that here is the place to be discussing it.

    If any of my teachers or anyone in authority had ever done any of that to me I would be sickened at the thought that it is being discussed in this forum.

    Surely there is a more appropriate place for it.

    Already mentioned by another poster:

    You would want to be very sure of facts before you go making a sweeping statement on here about the HSE.

    I'm not saying that I don't believe it happened, just this isn't the place.


    Well the idea that teachers would,in cahoots with sinister agents from the HSE molest an entire class full of children and then tell the parents,seems to be stretching credulity a bit.


  • #23
    Burkatron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭Burkatron


    Wibbs wrote: »
    I went to school in the 70's early 80's and don't remember this. One exam for spinal development but that was lift your shirt and a female nurse had a look, no pictures of our wobbly bits involved.

    I remember the exam, but I dont remember any pictures taken.... That does sound iffy...

    Standard AH sick joke: I wonder if they sold the ploaroids on the way out, could you get them made into a key ring?

    I disgust myself :(


  • #24
    Logical Fallacy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Brightest_Nite wrote: »
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sexual_abuse
    "physical contact with the child's genitals, viewing of the child's genitalia without physical contact, or using a child to produce child pornography".

    Both eaminers were male. 1 was the headmaster. A headmaster is not a doctor. The letters were issued by HSE. Any wonder there is loads of images of naked kids on the net.

    The net wasn't so huge in the 80's.

    I remember the exam you are talking about, no one took a picture. It actually mate a pleasant change from the Brother who was our headmaster beating the **** out of us.


  • #25
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Whoever added the tag "wanna be paedo victim" is an asshat


  • #26
    foxinsox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭foxinsox


    The back test was for scoliosis (sp?) curvature of the spine..

    Having to cough while a doctor checks testicles is one thing...

    But the OP is saying they took photographs???

    Never heard of that in my life..

    I was in primary school 1972 - 1980

    Maybe cameras weren't invented yet :D


  • #27
    Brightest_Nite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34 ✭Brightest_Nite


    My name is URL wrote: »
    No, but maybe posting about it here isn't a great idea unless you've taken an official line of action first?
    Report it to the police, you mean these people:
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056042164

    I don't think that is a good idea.


  • #28
    ballsymchugh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,938 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    were the letters on HSE headed paper? given that it was established in 2001 that's some pretty good foresight.

    edit: opinion guy got the dates right!


  • #29
    opinion guy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    Ya see OP there is one huge flaw with your post that kinda destroys your credibility.

    The HSE did not exist in the 1980's. The HSE was established by the Health Act, 2004 and came into existence on 1 January 2005.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_Service_Executive

    Honeslty guys, Trolls there days.....just don't do their homework:rolleyes:


  • #30
    Brightest_Nite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34 ✭Brightest_Nite


    foxinsox wrote: »
    The back test was for scoliosis (sp?) curvature of the spine..

    Having to cough while a doctor checks testicles is one thing...

    But the OP is saying they took photographs???

    Never heard of that in my life..

    I was in primary school 1972 - 1980

    Maybe cameras weren't invented yet :D
    Did the thought ever cross your mind that maybe they just told you that they were testing for scoliosis.


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  • #31
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Brightest_Nite wrote: »
    Report it to the police, you mean these people:
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056042164

    I don't think that is a good idea.

    Well don't be surprised if someone approaches you in regard to what you've posted here.. They're very serious allegations


  • #32
    Burkatron
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    My name is URL wrote: »
    Whoever added the tag "wanna be paedo victim" is an asshat

    http://www.philebrity.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/mcpoyles.jpg


  • #33
    Degsy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    ballsymchugh wrote: »
    were the letters on HSE headed paper? given that it was established in 2001 that's some pretty good foresight.

    Presumably HSE is peadophile slang for something or other and they were merely telling parents the truth about thier sordid activities.


  • #34
    Brightest_Nite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34 ✭Brightest_Nite


    foxinsox wrote: »
    Have you taken official action on this?

    If any of these things mentioned above did happen at your school I would not think that here is the place to be discussing it.

    If any of my teachers or anyone in authority had ever done any of that to me I would be sickened at the thought that it is being discussed in this forum.

    Surely there is a more appropriate place for it.

    Already mentioned by another poster:

    You would want to be very sure of facts before you go making a sweeping statement on here about the HSE.

    I'm not saying that I don't believe it happened, just this isn't the place.
    On the contrary, this is the place, its the exact correct place.
    I stated, it may of been an individual pretending to be a hse official. Its not hard now, and wasn't back then, to produce fake letters.


  • #35
    Degsy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    Brightest_Nite wrote: »
    Did the thought ever cross your mind that maybe they just told you that they were testing for scoliosis.

    To put your mind at ease when they nonced you up,yeah?:rolleyes:


  • #36
    Orange69
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭Orange69


    I recall being fondled by a nurse when I was in school. No worries. Its only a pity its not still happening to me.


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  • #37
    Degsy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    My name is URL wrote: »
    Well don't be surprised if someone approaches you in regard to what you've posted here.

    Yes..somebody with a big net and a straitjacket.


  • #38
    Logical Fallacy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Brightest_Nite wrote: »
    On the contrary, this is the place, its the exact correct place.
    I stated, it may of been an individual pretending to be a hse official. Its not hard now, and wasn't back then, to produce fake letters.

    It is hard to believe that people can tell the future.

    You got the fact that tests were done right, but you kind of ****ed up on the link to the paedo's mate.

    This isn't a quit while you are ahead scenario, you are already pretty far behind.


  • #39
    Julien Huge Tightwad
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    lol @ tags


  • #40
    Brightest_Nite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34 ✭Brightest_Nite


    Gummy Panda wrote: »
    I went to primary school in late 80s/early 90s. I remember this exam. No teachers were involved. A female doctor and a 1-2 female nurses.
    For us, 2 males, the headmaster and another.


  • #41
    mikom
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    Brightest_Nite wrote: »
    Its not hard now, and wasn't back then,

    http://www.annaraccoon.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/ooh-matron.jpg


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  • #42
    minidazzler
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    Brightest_Nite wrote: »
    Did the thought ever cross your mind that maybe they just told you that they were testing for scoliosis.

    You really just want to have been abused don't you? Mr garrisson, is that you?


  • #43
    Brightest_Nite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34 ✭Brightest_Nite


    Degsy wrote: »
    They did it when i was in school..it always created a big stir amongst the kids.
    A fat nurse would arrive and give you a going over..you were weighed,measured and had your eyes and teeth looked at.
    The highlight(not) was when she cupped your balls and told you to cough..this,i later found out was to test for improperly descended testicles.
    ................or so you were told.


  • #44
    foxinsox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭foxinsox


    Brightest_Nite wrote: »
    Did the thought ever cross your mind that maybe they just told you that they were testing for scoliosis.

    no never crossed my mind...

    probably the fact that the nurse checked my back (with my vest on)

    there wasn't teachers or other pupils present

    there wasn't a HSE fake representative

    they didn't fondle my bits

    they didn't take photos

    So I believe they were testing for scoliosis :)


    HSE was formerly Regional Health Boards afaik

    Eastern Health Board
    Southern Health Board etc..

    Same thing more or less just each region was seperate..


  • #45
    starbelgrade
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    My name is URL wrote: »
    Whoever added the tag "wanna be paedo victim" is an asshat

    You calling me an ass hat?


  • #46
    Brightest_Nite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34 ✭Brightest_Nite


    BluesBerry wrote: »
    I was in primary school in the mid 80's I remember getting an exam but I stayed in my vest and knickers I had to walk on a sponge floor in my bare feet it was something to do with posture I think and it was nurses doing it
    They said it was for posture. That is what they told us.


  • #47
    Sardonicat
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    This guy was pretending to be a HSE official?

    Were the parent's not alerted to something being amiss when they received a letter in the mid 80s from an organisation that didn't exist til 2004?(ish)


  • #48
    Logical Fallacy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    starbelgrade wrote: »
    You calling me an ass hat?

    Yes, it's "wannabe".


  • #49
    Brightest_Nite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34 ✭Brightest_Nite


    Degsy wrote: »
    Well the idea that teachers would,in cahoots with sinister agents from the HSE molest an entire class full of children and then tell the parents,seems to be stretching credulity a bit.
    But you are all missing a vital point here. If those exams were so crucial to the childs health, then how come they are not performed today?

    Are you all now stating that the HSE is neglecting children?

    Answers please?


  • #50
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Degsy wrote: »
    They probably just didnt wanna look:D
    Everyone wants to look at the Wibbly wobbly bits. Its a law, like gravity.
    foxinsox wrote: »
    Maybe cameras weren't invented yet :D
    True though I do recall some compromising preliminary silverpoint sketches.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • #51
    Julien Huge Tightwad
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    I really want to make a joke about the "brightest" part of his username


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