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April 2024 Boards weather forecast contest

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  • 30-03-2024 3:23am
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    Registered Users Posts: 14,331 ✭✭✭✭


    1. Predict the "IMT" or Irish Mean Temperature which is the average for night and day at these five locations: Casement, Mullingar, Claremorris, Oak Park, and Shannon. (In April the normal IMT is 8.4 C). That is worth a maximum of 25 points. You lose one point per 0.1 deg error.
    2. Predict the MAX which is the highest reading at any of the 25 regular reporting stations on the met.ie website. Worth 20 points, same error.
    3. Predict the MIN, lowest reading, otherwise same idea. Worth 20 points, same error as the first two.
    4. Predict the PRC which is the rainfall plus liquid equivalent of any other types of precipitation, as a percentage of normal for the average at eleven locations in Ireland. Those are the five listed in 1 above, plus Malin Head, Belmullet, Ballyhaise, Johnstown Castle (in Wexford), Cork, and Valentia. (worth 15 points, you lose one point for each 3% error).
    5. Predict the SUN, hours of sunshine also as a percentage of normal, from stats gathered at six locations around Ireland (Casement, Dublin, Cork, Valentia, Shannon, Belmullet). The average duration of sunshine in April is about 5 hours a day. Worth 10 points and the score is reduced for each multiple of 5% error.
    6. BONUS for April __ Predict the maximum total rainfall (in mm) for 1 to 7 April inclusive, at any of the 25 locations used by met.ie, and give your guess as to location. Points will be 7 for amount, and 3 for location, with superbonus available. Will fit scoring to a good spread of points but to get maximum location points you will need to guess correct location (amount for contest forecast amount is not the total at your guessed location, but at all locations).

    1. As always, deadline 0300h of 1st April, late penalties 1 point per 4 hours to 1500h 2nd and 1 point per hour afterwards.
    2. I will post forecasts for myself and NormaL in next two days; NormaL's bonus forecast will be GFS grid maximum on 00z run Apr 1st.
    3. Good luck (can't get rid of indent format in this new reply box they are using on Boards, no real reason to point-form lower portion, but it is done …

    Post edited by M.T. Cranium on


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  • Registered Users Posts: 372 ✭✭waterways


    waterways ___ 8.4 ___ 22.8 ___ -2.0 ___ 99 ___ 109 ___ 95 Sherkin Island



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭Artane2002


    Artane2002 ___ 9.0 ___ 19.8 ___ -3.2 ___ 185 ___ 85 ___ 60 Johnstown Castle



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,716 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Gonzo ___ 9.4 ___ 19.2 ___ -1.4 ___ 217 ___ 82 ___ 78 Dunsany



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,777 ✭✭✭Joe Public


    Joe Public___ 8.8 ___ 21.3 ___ -2.2 ___ 90 ___ 120 ___ 29 Roches Point




  • Registered Users Posts: 13,512 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    sryanbruen ___ 8.7 ___ 18.9 ___ -2.6 ___ 160 ___ 90 ___ 55 Johnstown Castle




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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,766 ✭✭✭Bsal


    Bsal ___ 8.9 ___ 18.7 ___ -2.0 ___ 150 ___ 95 ___ 58 Oak Park



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,707 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    DOCARCH ___ 8.7 ___ 19.1 ___ -2.2 ___ 137 ___ 88 ___ 42 Valentia



  • Registered Users Posts: 188 ✭✭sunflower3


    Sunflower3 ___ 9.1___ 21.0 ___ -1.5 ___ 120 ___ 95 ___ 52 Johnstown castle



  • Registered Users Posts: 339 ✭✭kindredspirit


    Kindred Spirit ___ 8.6° ___ 20 ___ -1.5 ___ 140 ___ 90 ___ 54 Valentia.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,880 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Pauldry ___ 9.3___ 19.8 ___ -1.4 ___ 130___ 99___ 77 Valentia



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  • Registered Users Posts: 549 ✭✭✭dasa29


    Dasa29 ___ 9.0 ___ 18.5 ___ -2.0 ___ 120 ___ 100 ___ 50 Valentia



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭John mac


    john mac ___ 8.9 ___ 22.9 ___ -1.8 ___ 104 ___ 109 ___ 104 Sherkin Island



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭rameire


    Rameire ___ 8.7 ___ 20.0 ___ -1.0 ___ 140 ___ 90 ___ 65 Valentia

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Split 2.28S, 1.52E. 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,331 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    For MTC ______10.1 _ 23.8 _ -1.5 _ 158 _ 100 _____ 98.2 Athenry

    For NorMaL ____ 8.4 _ 21.5 _ -2.5 _ 100 _ 100 _____ 85.0 Mace head (12z GFS)

    … I said 00z for NorMaL, but as 2/3 of field entered now, will level playing field and use 12z as shown.

    … I assume all bonus answers are mm and not % …



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    Jpmarn  ____ 9.4 _ 20.5 _ -0.8 _ 125 _ 105 _____ 85.0 Knock



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Mr Stonewall ___8.8___19.2___-2.2___92___105___88__Sherkin Island



  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭mrskinner


    Skinner___9.2___21.2___-3.2___110___100___70___Valentia.



  • Registered Users Posts: 708 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    Tae laidir ____ 9.6 _ 20.4 _ -0.3 _ 145 _ 108 _____ 71.0 Valentia




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭200motels


    200motels 8.9 ___ 19.5 ___ -1.9 ___ 172 ___ 91 ___ 98 Sherkin Island



  • Registered Users Posts: 42 Cornerstonelad


    Cornerstonelad __9.2____19.9___-1.8_____155___85____79 Valentia



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭dacogawa


    Dacogawa ___ 9.2 ___ 20.2 ___ -2.6 ___ 202 ___ 86 ___ 76.5 Sherkin Island



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,790 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Appledrop 9.4____19.5___-1.6__167__93__66 Sherkin Island



  • Registered Users Posts: 911 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (410ft asl)


    Late entry ….

    Wolfeire ___ 9.8___ 19 ___ -2 ___ 133___ 100___ 68 Roches Point

    www.x.com/wolfeeire



  • Registered Users Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Tazio


    Late entry_02….

    Tazio___ 9.0___ 17 ___ 0.0 ___ 125___ 110___ 80 Valentia



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,331 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Table of forecasts for April 2024

    FORECASTER ______ IMT _ MAX _ MIN _ PRC _ SUN __ Total prec 1-7, loc'n

    M.T. Cranium_______10.1 _ 23.8 _ -1.5 _ 158 _ 100 ___(2) 98.2 _Athenry

    WolfeEire ___ (-1) ___9.8 _ 19.0 _ -2.0 _ 133 _ 100 ___(14) 68.0 _Roches Point

    Tae laidir __________ 9.6 _ 20.4 _ -0.3 _ 145 _ 108 ___(12) 71.0 _Valentia

    Jpmarn ____________9.4 _ 20.5 _ -0.8 _ 125 _ 105 ___(6) 85.0 _Knock

    Appledrop __________9.4 _ 19.5 _ -1.6 _ 167 _ 093 ___(15) 66.0 _Sherkin Island

    Gonzo _____________9.4 _ 19.2 _ -1.4 _ 217 _ 082 ___(9) 78.0 _Dunsany

    Pauldry ____________9.3 _ 19.8 _ -1.4 _ 130 _ 099 ___(10) 77.0 _Valentia

    MrSkinner __________9.2 _ 21.2 _ -3.2 _ 110 _ 100 ___(13) 70.0 _Valentia

    Dacogawa __________9.2 _ 20.2 _ -2.6 _ 202 _ 086 ___(11) 76.5 _Sherkin Island

    Cornerstonelad ______9.2 _ 19.9 _ -1.8 _ 155 _ 085 ___(8) 79.0 _Valentia

    Sunflower3 _________9.1 _ 21.0 _ -1.5 _ 120 _ 095 ___(21) 52.0 _Johnstown castle

    Artane2002 ________ 9.0 _ 19.8 _ -3.2 _ 185 _ 085 ___(17) 60.0 _Johnstown Castle

    … Con Sensus _______9.0 _ 19.8 _ -1.9 _ 140 _ 097 ___ 70.5 _see discussion below

    Dasa29 ____________9.0 _ 18.5 _ -2.0 _ 120 _ 100 ___(22) 50.0 _Valentia

    Tazio ___ (-2) ______ 9.0 _ 17.0 __ 0.0 _ 125 _ 110 ___(7) 80.0 _Valentia

    john mac __________ 8.9 _ 22.9 _ -1.8 _ 104 _ 109 ___(1) 104.0 _Sherkin Island

    200motels _________ 8.9 _ 19.5 _ -1.9 _ 172 _ 091 ___(3) 98.0 _Sherkin Island

    Bsal ______________ 8.9 _ 18.7 _ -2.0 _ 150 _ 095 ___(18) 58.0 _Oak Park

    Joe Public __________8.8 _ 21.3 _ -2.2 _ 090 _ 120 ___(24) 29.0 _Roches Point

    Mr Stonewall _______ 8.8 _ 19.2 _ -2.2 _ 092 _ 105 ___(5) 88.0 _Sherkin Island

    Rameire ___________8.7 _ 20.0 _ -1.0 _ 140 _ 090 ___(16) 65.0 _Valentia

    DOCARCH _________ 8.7 _ 19.1 _ -2.2 _ 137 _ 088 ___(23) 42.0 _Valentia

    sryanbruen ________ 8.7 _ 18.9 _ -2.6 _ 160 _ 090 ___(19) 55.0 _Johnstown Castle

    Kindred Spirit ______ 8.6 _ 20.0 _ -1.5 _ 140 _ 090 ___(20) 54.0 _Valentia

    waterways _________8.4 _ 22.8 _ -2.0 _ 099 _ 109 ___(4) 95.0 _Sherkin Island

    ….NormaL _________ 8.4 _ 21.5 _ -2.5 _ 100 _ 100 ___(6) 85.0 _Mace head (31-03 12z GFS)

    ___________________________-

    For the location of wettest recording site 1-7 April we have 24 forecasts (beside Normal)

    Valentia __ 9 picks ___ Con Sensus scores 3/3 if correct

    Sherkin Island _ 6 ___ Con Sensus scores 2/3 if correct

    Johnstown Castle _ 3 _ Con Sensus scores 1/3 if correct

    Roches Point _____ 2 _Con Sensus scores 1/3 if correct

    Athenry, Dunsany, Oak Park, Knock _ 1 _Con Sensus scores 1/3 if correct

    all other locations ____Con Sensus scores 0/3 if correct

    Normal will score 3/3 if Mace head is correct, and 2/3 if a western location is correct, 1/3 for central, south (based on guidance used for forecast)

    Location scores for forecasters will depend on range of outcomes, so we get a reasonable spread of 2/3 and 1/3 scores.

    As to amounts predicted, number in brackets places in order.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,880 ✭✭✭pauldry


    After 3 days of the rainfall prediction thing. There isn't really any excessive total anywhere yet. About 12 to 15mm in parts of the South and East. Thursday to Sunday are the days that will add much more.

    Sligo won't win anyways. Wer on 0.3mm though the weekend storm will boost ours.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,880 ✭✭✭pauldry


    After 4 days I'd say Valentia and Johnstone are leading. Around 30mm of rain in these areas so far this month. Might be missing others but just looking quickly.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,331 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Turns out 1-8 April would have done us better, but as far as actual contest amounts, I will post a running total for 1-5 Apr around mid-afternoon Saturday and will include rain reported on 6th if possible. After four days, Valentia and J—Castle were nearly tied but as of 0100h Valentia is considerably ahead near 46 mm. Will update all this later and see where things stand after current storm has moved through all regions.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,707 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    High of 17.0c at Phoenix Park yesterday.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,331 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Precip totals so far (incl today after 01h)

    Valentia _______ 49.2+4.4 = 53.6

    Johnstown C ___ 36.5+1.5 = 38.0

    __ Cork _______ 37.2+0.3 = 37.5

    Sherkin Is _____ 35.3+1.4 = 36.7

    __ Moore Park __32.9+1.3= 34.2

    Oak Park ______23.4+5.1 = 28.5

    Roches Pt _____ 26.1+0.2 = 26.3

    __ Belmullet ___16.7 +9.1 = 25.8

    Knock ________ 19.7+3.6 = 23.3

    Athenry _______20.7+1.9 = 22.6

    Mace Head ____ 19.3 +2.6 = 21.9 (Normal)

    Dunsany ______ 20.7+0.5 = 21.2

    (no other unpicked locations currently above 21 mm)

    (unpicked locations in list are indented)

    Will update list on Monday 8 April … for location scoring currently would give 3/3 for Valentia, 2/3 for JC, SI picks and 1/3 for rest, as all picks are in top portion of 25-location grid (didn't list all totals below Dunsany's 21.2). Will revisit that concept at end of play.

    While this shows the weaknesses in GFS forecasting, their 30h projections to end of the contest period would suggest a further 2-4 mm possible for most, 12-14 mm at Valentia to pad the lead.

    We have three forecasts (and our Con Sensus) looking good for top points overall … approx order of points expected

    MrSkinner _________70.0 _Valentia

    Consensus ________ 70.5 _ (Valentia)

    Tae laidir __________71.0 _Valentia

    Rameire __________ 65.0 _Valentia

    Appledrop _________66.0 _Sherkin Island

    WolfeEire _________ 68.0 _Roches Point

    Pauldry ___________77.0 _Valentia

    Dacogawa _________76.5 _Sherkin Island

    Cornerstonelad _____79.0 _Valentia

    Tazio _____________80.0 _Valentia

    Artane2002 ________60.0 _Johnstown Castle

    Gonzo ____________78.0 _Dunsany

    Bsal _____________ 58.0 _Oak Park

    Kindred Spirit ______54.0 _Valentia

    Dasa29 ___________50.0 _Valentia

    sryanbruen ________55.0 _Johnstown Castle

    Sunflower3 ________52.0 _Johnstown castle

    Joe Public _________29.0 _Roches Point

    Jpmarn ___________85.0 _Knock

    DOCARCH _________42.0 _Valentia

    Mr Stonewall ______ 88.0 _Sherkin Island

    ….NormaL _________85.0 _Mace head (31-03 12z GFS)

    waterways ________ 95.0 _Sherkin Island

    200motels ________ 98.0 _Sherkin Island

    john mac ________ 104.0 _Sherkin Island

    M.T. Cranium_______98.2 _Athenry



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