Lavinia wrote: » seriously? gz. i read, i said what i said. to OP. as I understand her perfectly me thinks. which part was unclear to you in my short message? i prefer the truth, always was, always will. its great to live in truth, but not everyone can do it. do you have any problem with that?
Keane2baMused wrote: » There's a big difference between telling your OH you have a little crush but not acting on it. The OP went on a date with this person.
Lavinia wrote: » And how do you know I haven't? And how do you know how far I went lol...
batmanrobin wrote: » I think Keane was referring more so to to OP... Whose thread this is about.
Lavinia wrote: » Yes, and so I shared with OP my experience, that she know she is not the only one and that there are ore people in this world wh think in a similar manner. Also to encourage her to pursue what she perceives as right thing to do and what would make her happy.
Jack Killian wrote: » ....and her boyfriend ? Should he not be happy ?
Lavinia wrote: » If they are not compatible he will not be happy anyways. Nor her. Sometimes love is not enough to stay in a relationship, they can love each other still and remain friends but find partners that would share their deeper believes. We have this one life anyway and the time is flying.. so why not follow the road that is attracting you rather than try to be something you are not. No one is happy with that. Even if you try it and endure for few months or years or even decades, who guaranties you both would not be happier or achieve more with people who are more compatible with you.
Jack Killian wrote: » Agreed. So then end the relationship and move on.
Lavinia wrote: » That is one option. The other is that that relationship may become stronger than ever. It is as if you and your partner go to another level of intimacy. Does not mean it is easy. So yes, not at all for people, eg who would not be open to that. But if I'd be in OP's place, I'd talk with my partner and see how he feels and thinks about it. Id give him a chance to know the full truth and to have freedom to decide for himself if he wants to proceed with me or not, would hear his opinion and take it into consideration also. Be careful how to approach him and what to say.
Jack Killian wrote: » Yes, that's an option - let him know ALL the facts and decide for himself. He might want an open relationship where he could go for coffee dates with hotties and/or engaging conversationalists. My worry would be your "be careful..... what to say" though; it should be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Hiding anything at all would be deceit.
SuzanneDx wrote: » But I don't feel I have any need of another man in my life, but I do like hanging out with guys and before my current relationship, I've often had friendships with guys where we would hang out a lot, cook, and even sleep together in the same bed or stay up talking for hours and hours. Maybe even have a little closeness/hugging, and a deep emotional connection... but other than that just platonic (no kissing, sex, intimate touching, etc.). I've had a few of these kinds of friendships and I kind of see them as a sort of grey area... these guys are more than just friends, but not boyfriends either and it just never gets to that stage. But we'd hang out a lot and enjoy each others company. And now that I'm in a "real relatiosnhip", maybe I miss these kinds of platonic-but-more-than-just-friends types of men in my life. hmmm... I'm complex I know...
leggo wrote: » For the OP or Lavinia to need to seek that attention off other men, for Lavinia to then partially brag unabashedly about doing so and for the OP to be in complete denial about her wrongdoing here, that just makes me feel sorry for you guys. You must struggle to love yourselves if the love and attention of another person isn't enough for you and you must seek it outside of the relationship. It's an act of low self-esteem, not achievement. And that's the root of the problem that needs to be dealt with. You need to learn how to be whole within yourself so you can then give your partner back what they give to you and not look to be supplemented by others because you're looking to fill an infinite void within yourself.
Lavinia wrote: » If I do not know myself as well as I do, and I do know myself very well, Id be very worried for myself. Jeez, what projections you are making to someone you do not know at all. I am very confident person, never seeked attention but got more than I could handle. It just happened and is still happening. I am fully aware that my being is different than majority so what. I am ready even to stay alone for the rest of my life, but I will not pretend to be something I am not. Lost many years of my life trying to fit in, didn't lead anywhere. Actually, I believe sooner or later people will be able to throw away poisonous feelings such as jealousy and possessiveness an realize that love can only be lived if freedom is also there. Freedom with love, with respect, with honesty. To majority this is science fiction, but so be it. Not for everyone though, and that is also okay. To each its own.
Lavinia wrote: » In the end it will be and is up to you, and you only. It is your life.
leggo wrote: » If I said I was gonna fix your car, then didn't, and you were left without a car for a week, you'd have a right to be mad. You wouldn't be jealous or possessive because of that. You'd be mad because I made a commitment and failed to honour it. Same logic applies here. Re-read this thread. When the OP first posted, everyone said she'd be crazy to tell her bf about having little crushes on other guys. Then that flipped because she acted on it. The problem isn't her feelings, as you seem to be focusing on while conveniently ignoring the actual issue at hand: that she was committed to this guy and went on to cheat on him by going on a date with another guy. There's no complexity to it. We've no indication he's jealous or possessive. She just lied.
Big Bag of Chips wrote: » That's not strictly true though, is it? If she is in, as her boyfriend believes it to be, an exclusive relationship, then it is not up to her and only her to decide that it is ok to go on "little dates" and "test" herself with other fellas that she has crushes on. If that's the kind of relationship you intend having, OP, then you absolutely must tell your bf. You have to give him the chance to either agree to it (and be allowed go on similar dates with girls he has a crush on) or to say it's not for him. But you don't get to unilaterally decide what sort of relationship your bf (unwittingly) is in.