honey12345 wrote: » I say it has most definitely back fired on them they will never be able to retaliate again against such a big criminal organization again. They are worth over one billion. They are just killing them all of
honey12345 wrote: » I dont think they were thinking straight when they went into the regency I think they were a grieving family looking for revenge. I think its very sad to see a whole family getting killed. And there is nothing no one can do to stop it they aren't even able to fight back they are out numbered and havens got the resources it seems to just be the kinahans killing a family one by one.
Little CuChulainn wrote: » I'd say they expected to make a bigger dent in the cartel at the hotel.
thebaz wrote: » that was my point about killing Byrne alone - if D. Kinahan had been killed may (possibly) have de-stabilised the cartel , but Byrne execution has just angered the Dublin crew.
Bicky bicky wrote: » The monk most definitely had some big name/names behind him for the hotel attacks f**ks left him The way the hutches have been left hang out to dry I say there thankful they didn't get Daniel could you imagine the chaos then if the dappers son!Way worse than now!
Aloneagain wrote: » Apart from Gary Hutch, the KOCG have taken out none of the main players, they got close to taking out the first ERU guy into the Regency on two occasions, but they can't lay a finger on the second one in, their once most trusted hit man.. The Hutch side have shown they have the capacity to pull off a "spectacular" once already, they will prove this again in the not too distant future.
Aloneagain wrote: » Apart from Gary Hutch, the KOCG have taken out none of the main players, they got close to taking out the first ERU guy into the Regency on two occasions, but they can't lay a finger on the second one in, their once most trusted hit man.. Two key players currently locked up in the aftermath of the regency though, most likely can't lay on finger on him as he knows the inner workings of the cartel.
Aloneagain wrote: » Apart from Gary Hutch, the KOCG have taken out none of the main players, they got close to taking out the first ERU guy into the Regency on two occasions, but they can't lay a finger on the second one in, their once most trusted hit man..The Hutch side have shown they have the capacity to pull off a "spectacular" once already, they will prove this again in the not too distant future.
Aloneagain wrote: » The Hutch side have shown they have the capacity to pull off a "spectacular" once already, they will prove this again in the not too distant future.
Aloneagain wrote: » Apart from Gary Hutch, the KOCG have taken out none of the main players, they got close to taking out the first ERU guy into the Regency on two occasions, <b>but they can't lay a finger on the second one in, their once most trusted hit man..<\b> The Hutch side have shown they have the capacity to pull off a "spectacular" once already, they will prove this again in the not too distant future.
SeanGMK wrote: » Why is it that he is so untouchable? I've seen a few people mention that here in some way or another. The Cartel seem far too powerful. What is it about this guy?
thebaz wrote: » not really up on all this - but could it be that the Regency worked out as complete disaster for the Hutchs - by killing one of the Byrnes this just angered the Dublin enforcers for the Kinahans, while leaving all the Kinahan in tact. I would assume the object was to kill D Kinahan and hope this would destabilise the whole Kinahan operation, hasn't Christy more or less retired operation to sons ?
JustTheOne wrote: » I'm starting to think how many of these Dublin shootings are actually part of the feud? Seems like personal grudges been settled and the media just blaming it on the feud.
Aloneagain wrote: » Bicky bicky wrote: » The monk most definitely had some big name/names behind him for the hotel attacks f**ks left him The way the hutches have been left hang out to dry I say there thankful they didn't get Daniel could you imagine the chaos then if the dappers son!Way worse than now! Apart from Gary Hutch, the KOCG have taken out none of the main players, they got close to taking out the first ERU guy into the Regency on two occasions, but they can't lay a finger on the second one in, their once most trusted hit man.. The Hutch side have shown they have the capacity to pull off a "spectacular" once already, they will prove this again in the not too distant future.
Muahahaha wrote: » thebaz wrote: » not really up on all this - but could it be that the Regency worked out as complete disaster for the Hutchs - by killing one of the Byrnes this just angered the Dublin enforcers for the Kinahans, while leaving all the Kinahan in tact. I would assume the object was to kill D Kinahan and hope this would destabilise the whole Kinahan operation, hasn't Christy more or less retired operation to sons ? I think this is the case, the Regency was an attempt to grab power from the cartel that went hugely wrong. There was also an element of killing two birds with the one stone as it was a revenge attack for Gary Hutch but the amount of effort that went into it would suggest it was a major power play for a slice of the pie. If they had of shot Daniel Kinahan and others as planned then maybe things would be different right now. There'd still be a feud on but with the leader of the cartel dead no doubt there would have been some internal wrangling that might have destabilised the cartel as higher up members jockey for position.
Murtagh was released from jail last August after serving seven and a half years for a botched cash-in-transit van raid in Lucan, west Dublin, in 2009. The family spokesman added: “Keith doesn’t trust anyone and this is no way for anyone to live. “No one should have to live looking over their shoulder — especially when they’re being blamed for something they weren’t involved in.” And former Labour TD Joe Costello also confirmed he has contacted Gardai to raise the family’s concerns. The veteran politician said: “The murder of Martin O’Rourke is the type of situation we don’t want to see happening again. “I have contacted Gardai at a very senior level and they are the only people who can verify Keith’s movements on the day of the Regency. “I was contacted by his family because they are afraid for his life and the Gardai have an obligation to follow every line of inquiry. “The family have given me a letter detailing his movements and I have passed this information to the Gardai. He’s simply asking for the Gardai to prove his alibi. “They should do this as a matter of urgency because there’s clearly an intent to kill him with the two unsuccessful attempts.” Murtagh’s family claim that he was in the city centre at the time a five-man gang stormed the Regency Hotel and should be captured on dozens of CCTV cameras. They maintain he left his family home in Sheriff Street, walked through the IFSC and boarded the Luas to the Jervis Centre. Once there, they claim he walked through Henry Street and Liffey Street before going to a mobile phone shop. They claim Keith then walked down Talbot Street before returning to Sheriff Street. Gardai said that Murtagh, a childhood pal of murder victim Gary Hutch, has not been arrested over the hotel attack and confirmed that he isn’t wanted over the incident. A source said: “Gardai believe 16 people were involved in the whole Regency attack and Murtagh’s name hasn’t featured and there are no plans to arrest him.”
coniosumadre wrote: » Interesting.With all the rubbish these papers post, it's hard to believe any of their "sources" though, boy who cried wolf and all that. If it's true the guards should probably come out and release a seperate statement that he's not wanted in connection, Not be relying on the Sun to pass the message accross. and has this CCTV footage actually been found?
coniosumadre wrote: » Regency was revenge, pure and simple. If there was an attempt at a grab of power at all, that came before, and probably what started the whole thing (depending which story you believe)
Apart from that the CCTV had be knocked out the day before and if that was done remotely (as has been suspected) then the raid also involved some serious expertise from a cyber criminal.
“He’s one of the most hated men in Ireland and tried to get support from his old cronies when he came out of prison, but nobody wants to go near him. Everyone blames him for the creation of the CAB,” said one source. Gilligan is believed to be staying at the Kildare property while waiting for his day in court, but he never leaves it as he has made too many enemies and doesn’t know who wants him dead.
Gadgetman496 wrote: » There wasn't anything too professional if it was out the day before but spotted by management and working again during the actual raid. Even if they did manage to kill the CCTV on the day, what were they thinking hitting an event that was a wash with reporters with cameras?
Peter Anthony wrote: » I see the "pint sized thug" was in court today. Lol
SEPT 23 1989 wrote: » I'm surprised he is still walking around the place
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