Jaysus Christ wrote: » Is it in the IFJ that the June milk check for the "average" dairy farmer will be down €7000 on 2013?? Just goes to show the money they were making.
Jaysus Christ wrote: » Is it in the IFJ that the June milk check for the "average" dairy farmer will be down 7000 on 2013?? Just goes to show the money they were making.
Milked out wrote: » Your confusing sales with profit there lad.
Farmer Ed wrote: » I'm not so sure it might be as rosey as some might think for the survivors. There was a time when the price of milk would bring down a government. Dairy farmers are increasingly becoming politically and socially isolated. Just some of the animosity towards us on here alone is a good example. Don't want to plagiarise a phrase. But there is strength in numbers. In real terms we are now getting only about a third of what we got for milk 27years ago. Increasingly this is looking very much like a race to the bottom. Hope I'm wrong but increasingly people seem to be taking pleasure out of seeing their neighbours go out of business.
pedigree 6 wrote: » The farmer milking 100 cows wants to see the farmer milking 50 cows go out of business. The farmer milking 200 cows wants to see the farmer milking 100 cows go out of business. The farmer milking 400 cows wants to see the farmer milking 200 cows go out of business. The farmer milking 800 cows wants to see the farmer milking 400 cows go out of business. The company milking 1600 cows wants to see the farmer milking 800 cows go out of business. The drystock and tillage farmers wants to see them all out of business and the processors don't give a dam who goes out of business. Fight on lads.:D
Farmer Ed wrote: » Meanwhile we all just try and run faster to try and stand still.
freedominacup wrote: » Is it that you can't read or can't count. That poll as it stands reads as flat. 15% for increase, 20% reduce or get out.
Farmer Ed wrote: » Don't want to plagiarise a phrase. But there is strength in numbers. ..... Hope I'm wrong but increasingly people seem to be taking pleasure out of seeing their neighbours go out of business.
pedigree 6 wrote: » Since Dawggone and others are reeling in the years here. Just to look back at a few years ago. Here's another reeling in the years.
pedigree 6 wrote: » One more and i'll leave it at that. I've no real opinion either way but just for the history books. Whatever the next few years holds.:rolleyes:
Farmer Ed wrote: » Does anyone actually know what exactly qualifies her to be an expert in the first place?
alps wrote: » Ed .....you are 100% bang on.... Farmer respect and farmer lobbying strength depends on numbers....what those here clapping with glee don't seem to realise that to consume these failed farmers will take debt...increase the debt and you can't get back out..When you can't get back out you bloody well need some other guy to be less efficient than you, because when he's gone....you're next... It's like 3 friend in a field with a bull....One guy is slow, so the other 2 are smug...The bull gets the first and then the other 2 find that there is no way out of the field...The bull will get the next and and the next.... Hope theres pleasure in it guys..
Waffletraktor wrote: » I don't agree too often with you but when she trotted out the line of growing of growing populations :rolleyes:, maybe she should highlight the growing affluent classes and a need for value added not dried and bottom feeding.:)
rangler1 wrote: » If you're looking for some one to blame, look in the mirror. She said farmers were in a good position to expand, definitely was right there. Affluent society is growing round the world...., right again. If you can't take responsibility for business decisions,!!!!!!!!!! The buzz words from the Dairy Commitee while I was on National exec in IFA were ''SUSTAINABLE EXPANSION''....obviously no one else wanted to listen to that......just like the developers 10 years ago. I issued a few warnings on here myself too about post quota....sure what would I, an IFA officer know. You insist on running down everyone that's better off than you and discrediting their work....a bit sad really
Waffletraktor wrote: » I don't know about the exact costings for dairy but I guess it would be aiming for a sub 19c/l cost being you future but in tillage to make money it's getting to stage of stripping back to make money on a spend of sub750£/ha is the new-old norm in milling wheat. Bg alone has a charge of 200+ on some farms for herbs and losses and in reality their still going to go out of business if they stay at that. Great when prices rise you can let off the belt for a breather, unless some one owes you lot a living to stay over producing a product mix no one wants. Dawg posted a time back of a open day and a farmer dancing about demanding the market change to suit him and folk sneered, yet a few months later that particular f##k gun is being pointed at you by Europe and how many furious farmers turned up to Dg agm, will go to ifa etc meetings to discuss a plan of action when the serious moves for quota come in when half the lot there will be sitting smugly fancying themselves to pick up cheap cows soon and the other half pulling their hair out of self inflicted stress. And anyone blaming Teagasc/simple Simon et/al fudge off, your just like a property developer in the twilight of the boom wondering why the good times didn't go on for ever.
kevthegaff wrote: » What's Bg?
freedominacup wrote: » Big gonads. The argument seems to ve whether it's an overabundance of them or lack of them that's causing all the problems.
Waffletraktor wrote: » So which side are you?http://www.fwi.co.uk/arable/farmers-will-need-two-years-to-get-on-top-of-bad-blackgrass.htm
whelan2 wrote: » http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/commissioner-hogan-completely-wrong-to-make-farmers-responsible-for-dairy-crisis/
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