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Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

Random_Person

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/shots-fired-at-boxing-weighin-in-dublin-hotel-34427111.html

Anymore info floating around?

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- No naming people (by initials or nickname) that are not the focus of these incidents
- No Speculation
- No Gossip
- No naming addresses of suspects
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The discussion should focus on news items that have been substantiated rather than what is hearsay.
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tomwaterford

...And Justice wrote: »

Dissadents are not the IRA, end of.

Why not??

Surly the largest republican paramilitary organisation would be referred to as the IRA??

...And Justice

I'll attach this then we'll stop talking about the IRA. Remember where the Labour party came from......

JustTheOne

...And Justice wrote: »

I'll attach this then we'll stop talking about the IRA. Remember where the Labour party came from......

I like!

StringerBell

tomwaterford wrote: »

Why not??

Surly the largest republican paramilitary organisation would be referred to as the IRA??

Not necessarily no.

tomwaterford

StringerBell wrote: »

Not necessarily no.

How is that?

Pira are effectively no more....do they want to copyright the name :pac:

...And Justice

tomwaterford wrote: »

How is that?

Pira are effectively no more....do they want to copyright the name :pac:

Well some teenagers do, styling themselves as. The "New RA"

Horse manure.

chillin117

...And Justice wrote: »

Well some teenagers do, styling themselves as. The "New RA"

Horse manure.

Ah lads, stop the ra talk.Its like watchin keyboard tennis

32_4_1

In fairness, I only interjected because I thought the original reason for the growth of these drugdealers would have been of some interest

themandan6611

32_4_1 wrote: »

In fairness, I only interjected because I thought the original reason for the growth of these drugdealers would have been of some interest

ah sure it will kill the time till the next killing

headnorth

Boom_Bap wrote:

It's not published or documented anywhere. Any name would then be speculation.

His name was published online and documented on various blogs....all just about as reliable as the words of crime writers in the papers,I'd guess?

realdanbreen

32_4_1 wrote: »

That's the point. If they were hypothetically still around, and the cartels didn't pay up, would the pIRA have put an end to it, and none of this would be happening?

Most of them are getting paychecks every month, some have harps on them, some have crowns, and some are getting both crown & harp cheques.

realdanbreen

myshirt wrote: »

Part of the story which is being overlooked here is the impact that Gardai policing of installation of water meters has had on trust and respect between communities and Gardai.

Trust and respect has been absolutely been OBLITERATED. Do not underestimate the impact of this. A serious, serious strategic mistake.

Sweet jesus. I've heard it all now.

gangstergossip

the hutch side is been wiped out because they linked up with NIRA members from dublin the gardai put all their manpower on to watching the main hutch and NIRA players while the rest of the available gardai set up checkpoints up outside the dublin based cartel members homes and some outside hutch linked gang members homes. But now with this new INLA group involved with the cartel side who would also be classed as dissidents the gardai will have to heavily monitor them which would stop a lot of the cartels killing and maybe allow the hutch side to strike back

Dyr

Simon2015 wrote: »

The IRA were involved in drugs since the 1970s they needed that money to fund their operations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_McCann_%28drugs_trafficker%29

You keep coming out with that ****e and not backing it up with anything.

This would still be happening if the provos were around provided the various players didn't cross the provos they would be left alone.

h2005

myshirt wrote: »

Part of the story which is being overlooked here is the impact that Gardai policing of installation of water meters has had on trust and respect between communities and Gardai.

Trust and respect has been absolutely been OBLITERATED. Do not underestimate the impact of this. A serious, serious strategic mistake.

FFS what a load of bollocks

ectoraige

myshirt wrote: »

Part of the story which is being overlooked here is the impact that Gardai policing of installation of water meters has had on trust and respect between communities and Gardai.

Yes, Richard Boyd Barrett and the AAA crowd have a lot to answer for. They had no problem organising protests stopping the lads trying to dig a few holes. I don't see them out now chanting "peaceful protest" at the lads carrying pistols and assault rifles.

JustTheOne

myshirt wrote: »

Part of the story which is being overlooked here is the impact that Gardai policing of installation of water meters has had on trust and respect between communities and Gardai.

Trust and respect has been absolutely been OBLITERATED. Do not underestimate the impact of this. A serious, serious strategic mistake.

Don't forget those blasted water meters give off cancer too!

32_4_1

Bambi wrote: »

You keep coming out with that ****e and not backing it up with anything.

This would still be happening if the provos were around provided the various players didn't cross the provos they would be left alone.

And if the current heavyweights crossed them? If the northern leadership of the dissidents (although unlikely) turn their attention down south (including their many links abroad), what is their actual capacity in relation to the Kinahan cartel out of curiosity?

[Deleted User]

32_4_1 wrote: »

And if the current heavyweights crossed them? If the northern leadership of the dissidents (although unlikely) turn their attention down south (including their many links abroad), what is their actual capacity in relation to the Kinahan cartel out of curiosity?

Shut up already about the Northern Leadership!
There's a bigger chance Gandalf could do something about them.
Stay on topic.

Loafing Oaf

32_4_1 wrote: »

And if the current heavyweights crossed them? If the northern leadership of the dissidents (although unlikely) turn their attention down south (including their many links abroad), what is their actual capacity in relation to the Kinahan cartel out of curiosity?

Well the issue came up earlier in the thread as to the extent to which Michael Barr represented 'the northern leadership'. Seemingly not many 'senior republicans' attended his funeral, and AFAIK there has been no clear declaration of intent to seek revenge on the Kinahans by NIRA, so I'm wondering if the hook-up with the Hutches might have been a solo run, or 'deniable' fundraising operation on his part...

Allyall

Talking about it on Radio 1 at the minute, and the Taoiseachs comments during the week.

Gamebred

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/hutch-and-pal-in-brutal-street-fight-with-killer-on-night-before-execution-34751145.html

So now its got nothing to do with the feud with the Kinahans,murdered over a personal dispute.

[Deleted User]

Gamebred wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/hutch-and-pal-in-brutal-street-fight-with-killer-on-night-before-execution-34751145.html

So now its got nothing to do with the feud with the Kinahans,murdered over a personal dispute.

It makes perfect sense.
There is bound to be other subversive/gangs that have issues with the hutches and their activities!

Gamebred

Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »

It makes perfect sense.
There is bound to be other subversive/gangs that have issues with the hutches and their activities!

Took the media days to find out the truth which is funny,they have been printing stories how the cartel wacked him and now back track without saying listen we ****ed up all week running the kinahan story.

[Deleted User]

Gamebred wrote: »

Took the media days to find out the truth which is funny,they have been printing stories how the cartel wacked him and now back track without saying listen we ****ed up all week running the kinahan story.

Agreed.
These hacks just want to get the story out there first, which is why they are all Twitter junkies.
The truth, nobody gives a **** about the truth!

humberklog

The Mirror running a headline- 'Gardai seek Monk to warn over Kinahan threat".
That must've been quite a Stop The Press moment in the newsroom.

Operational reasons is keeping any info back on the 2 arrested yesterday over Garreth's murder.

I said it before- the longer this goes on the more supply of product issues are going to arise on the North side.

Hollister11

RTE did a piece on prime time last night, about OAP who live in ballybough in the inner city, and they are afraid to live their homes.

chillin117

humberklog wrote: »

The Mirror running a headline- 'Gardai seek Monk to warn over Kinahan threat".

I would say he has a fair idea at this stage...

blinding

chillin117 wrote: »

I would say he has a fair idea at this stage...

Well unless it (the threat) has been upgraded to All Monks;)

gangstergossip

Gamebred wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/hutch-and-pal-in-brutal-street-fight-with-killer-on-night-before-execution-34751145.html

So now its got nothing to do with the feud with the Kinahans,murdered over a personal dispute.

The guy who murdered gareth hutch was still paid by the cartel they were from the same area and he had an altercation with ross and pulled a knife on him and gareth ran out with a bat and chased him up the road. The guy whos name i cant write here then rang around cartel members in dublin to see if there was a price on gareths head and was told he would be paid a 5 figure sum if he took him out and he did the next morning