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Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

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http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/shots-fired-at-boxing-weighin-in-dublin-hotel-34427111.html

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- No Gossip
- No naming people (by initials or nickname) that are not the focus of these incidents
- No Speculation
- No Gossip
- No naming addresses of suspects
- No requesting above info by PM, or otherwise

The discussion should focus on news items that have been substantiated rather than what is hearsay.
At a minimum there will be thread bans for those that ignore this warning.

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Peter Anthony

Coat22 wrote: »

I think you're hitting the comic books a little too late at night Peter.

Maybe it was the Garda . Maybe it wasn't.

But you're infantile assumption that the one side of the feud is killing more on the other side because one side has the gardai in their pocket is mad in the extreme. Did you ever pause to think it might be because one side is an international cartel of criminals worth over 750M whereas the other is a loose collection from the same extended family (and clingers on) from Sheriff St? If Bray challenged Barcelona to a match and had their arses whipped would it mean the referee must have been on Barca's payroll?

I think you (and a few others on here) need to take a break from this and come back when you hit 16.

Am I the only one that believes that? I have heard many people state otherwise on here and even in the media despite their bias. In fact the Guards are actively investigating their own senior members for leaking info as was reported in media yesterday. Nicola Tallant even alluded to it on RTE!

Benevolent Misanthrope

Peter Anthony wrote: »

Well its been said everywhere, offline, even on here, you can even hear her voice recording it. The fact is they put it out there, and it certainly could have been stopped if they wanted it to be. One would think it would impede their investigations, but it looks like they have no interest in investigating the truth

You can tell it is a Garda from the voice, or you recognise a specific Garda?

Coat22

Peter Anthony wrote: »

Coat22 wrote: »

I think you're hitting the comic books a little too late at night Peter.

Maybe it was the Garda . Maybe it wasn't.

But you're infantile assumption that the one side of the feud is killing more on the other side because one side has the gardai in their pocket is mad in the extreme. Did you ever pause to think it might be because one side is an international cartel of criminals worth over 750M whereas the other is a loose collection from the same extended family (and clingers on) from Sheriff St? If Bray challenged Barcelona to a match and had their arses whipped would it mean the referee must have been on Barca's payroll?

I think you (and a few others on here) need to take a break from this and come back when you hit 16.

Am I the only one that believes that? I have heard many people state otherwise on here and even in the media despite their bias. In fact the Guards are actively investigating their own senior members for leaking info as was reported in media yesterday. Nicola Tallant even alluded to it on RTE!

LOL must be true so!

I know you're not the only one who believes it (or at least says it) on here. The common theme with most who say it is that the Hutchs are somehow innocent victims in all this, some kind of north side robin hoods, being picked off in a fight they never had anything to do with.

Allyall

Wouldn't/shouldn't the public be allowed to view public CCTV footage anyway?
Or is that private footage?

Coat22

Benevolent Misanthrope wrote: »

Peter Anthony wrote: »

Well its been said everywhere, offline, even on here, you can even hear her voice recording it. The fact is they put it out there, and it certainly could have been stopped if they wanted it to be. One would think it would impede their investigations, but it looks like they have no interest in investigating the truth

You can tell it is a Garda from the voice, or you recognise a specific Garda?

Well no - he can hear a voice so defacto it must be a Garda as all women who would look at something like that must be Garda (the wife must be too so - better go home and ask her where she's been hiding the wages and the uniform all that time)

Peter Anthony

Benevolent Misanthrope wrote: »

You can tell it is a Garda from the voice, or you recognise a specific Garda?

Please do not put words in my mouth, people are sayin its a woman voice and thats the rumours . You in fact posted this yesterday

Benevolent Misanthrope wrote: »

It's a Garda filming a computer screen with his phone. You can see windows alright, courtesy of Microsoft.

So you obviously know more than me

Glen_Quagmire

Some serious amount of bitching going on here!!

coniosumadre

Yeah.. Lads get over it in fairness. There's about 20 pages of rubbish since the events of Tuesday. I think i'll unsubscribe from the thread until something of significance happens again. Bunch of kids fighting and making a mess of the thread.
Not just today either, most of yesterday too. Don't ye have homework due or something?

Coat22

Peter Anthony wrote: »

Glen_Quagmire wrote: »

Some serious amount of bitching going on here!!

People cant handle the truth even when its staring them in the face . Doesnt suit their world view

tomofson

spurious wrote: »

Yes there is.

Thanks for that it is interesting that their is two Derek Hutches still living I'd say thats why they call one delboy so not to get the two confused in conversation.

realdanbreen

32_4_1 wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance on this whole fiasco, but I just have a question. Would all this gangland nonsense be going on if the Provos were still around and taking out drugdealers? Seems to the ignorant untrained eye (me) that there's a direct correlation between the provos packing it in and a progressive growth in the amount and size of drug dealers since after the gfa. All these lads in crime seem very brazen in their actions as of late, a far cry from a time when they were all looking over their shoulders when there were bigger bullies than the lot of them on the block, namely the pIRA

The only drug dealers that the provos took out were the ones who owed them protection money. Bottom line is if you take drugs you keep these tramps in business .

[Deleted User]

Benevolent Misanthrope wrote: »

I realise there are shades of gray here, but I think you are possibly letting a gang of career criminals who profit from the misery of others off a bit lightly.

I'm not talking about all members of the gang, we're discussing those 'gang' members who have links to Gerry Hutch.

People who are armed, yet can't even manage to pull off a robbery of an unarmed cash-in-transit van. Those kind of fools, such as the most recent deceased. They're not on the same level as the Kinehans at all. They're not playing senior hurling.

The Regency Hotel is an aberration, but most of these guys are just dopes to be honest.

[Deleted User]

Peter Anthony wrote: »

I know how ridiculous it sounds yes, and Im paranoid. But Im not the only one thinking it alot of the other regular guys pulling back from here, there are Gardai and lads involved posting on here, monitoring people and most if not all reading. Why wouldnt they there is free info on here and its a way to stir things. And not all the stuff on here can be found online I think thats the point there was confidential info put out on a number of occasions. There was confidential unknown info about Gareth Hutch released online and then he was killed hours later. And Noel Duggan also

Anyone with no horse in this race can see how corrupt the Guards and media are and whats going on. Im sure all their fanclub and loverboys will be on to flame me for this no doubt

The only people pulling out of the thread are those openly stating they have drug dealer friends (50 to be exact) and admire armed robbers.
I wouldn't post that online , so I can understand them pulling out.

pablo128

Allyall wrote: »

Wouldn't/shouldn't the public be allowed to view public CCTV footage anyway?
Or is that private footage?

Would you like the nation to see a member of your family shot to death on the street? It shouldn't have been made public.

32_4_1

realdanbreen wrote: »

The only drug dealers that the provos took out were the ones who owed them protection money. Bottom line is if you take drugs you keep these tramps in business .

Point is that they all were bullied by the pIRA to give them protection money. So would this be going on if the IRA were still around? And by extension, was the decommissioning of the IRA actually a bad thing for the south, seeing as they would have been the only ones able to put an end to this?

Gamebred

Drug bosses are too powerful now a days,Mr.Big proved that when Ryans crew came looking for money,they would be laughed at by the Kinahan crew if they'd of asked for money aswell,the lower to mid tier were paying tax to them for years but thats not the case anymore as far as I know of.

[Deleted User]

32_4_1 wrote: »

Point is that they all were bullied by the pIRA to give them protection money. So would this be going on if the IRA were still around? And by extension, was the decommissioning of the IRA actually a bad thing for the south, seeing as they would have been the only ones able to put an end to this?

By doing what exactly?
Sending a hit squad to Spain or Dubai?

What we have seen so far is that the reach of these warring factions stretches countrywide and even into the other gang themselves.
Like trying to find a rat in a sewer.

32_4_1

Gamebred wrote: »

Drug bosses are too powerful now a days,Mr.Big proved that when Ryans crew came looking for money,they would be laughed at by the Kinahan crew if they'd of asked for money aswell,the lower to mid tier were paying tax to them for years but thats not the case anymore as far as I know of.

Are you actually equating some micky mouse dissidents, who are basically disowned by their only power base in the north and have broken into about 4 more laughable factions, to the pIRA?

Bicky bicky

This thread has predicted two deaths Mr Duggan over 10 days before his murder and Mr Gareth hutch 12 hours before his murder horrible video too chilling of course interest from Joe public of course would be huge.

The real shame of this feud is the murder of Mr Martin o Rourke!

There is guards,journlist and gang members from boths side posting here along with Joe public

This thread has been the most accurate after soar Sean was banned from social media outlets.

32_4_1

Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »

By doing what exactly?
Sending a hit squad to Spain or Dubai?

What we have seen so far is that the reach of these warring factions stretches countrywide and even into the other gang themselves.
Like trying to find a rat in a sewer.

The pIRA had connections all over the world. And yes, a hit squad to Spain would certainly be within the IRAs capacity if they were crossed. Infact it would have been a piece of piss. How would Kinahan for example even get a hit on the PIRA without being wiped out, seeing as he and several members of his gang are well known? If you're known to the IRA, very few very get away. Anonymous IRA men were the rats in the sewer who could rarely be found, so not much chance any of these drugdealers being able to take them out

[Deleted User]

Bicky bicky wrote: »

This thread has predicted two deaths Mr Duggan over 10 days before his murder and Mr Gareth hutch 12 hours before his murder horrible video too chilling of course interest from Joe public of course would be huge.

The real shame of this feud is the murder of Mr Martin o Rourke!

There is guards,journlist and gang members from boths side posting here along with Joe public

This thread has been the most accurate after soar Sean was banned from social media outlets.

one thing everyone can agree on.

[Deleted User]

32_4_1 wrote: »

The pIRA had connections all over the world. And yes, a hit squad to Spain would certainly be within the IRAs capacity if they were crossed

Don't you mean if they weren't payed their protection money?

ohnonotgmail

32_4_1 wrote: »

The pIRA had connections all over the world. And yes, a hit squad to Spain would certainly be within the IRAs capacity if they were crossed

They would probably want to avoid crossing into Gibraltar though.

32_4_1

Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »

Don't you mean if they weren't payed their protection money?

Doubt Kinahan and Mr. Big would pay up tbh

[Deleted User]

32_4_1 wrote: »

Doubt Kinahan and Mr. Big would pay up tbh

How else do you cross the IRA?
The General could potentially be claiming his pension had he not told them to **** off and get your own loot.

32_4_1

Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »

How else do you cross the IRA?
The General could potentially be claiming his pension had he not told them to **** off and get your own loot.

That's the point. If they were hypothetically still around, and the cartels didn't pay up, would the pIRA have put an end to it, and none of this would be happening?

[Deleted User]

32_4_1 wrote: »

That's the point. If they were hypothetically still around, and the cartels didn't pay up, would the pIRA have put an end to it, and none of this would be happening?

I think you give them too much credit!
They aren't invincible and have their own families to worry about.
They are brave when it comes to small time gangsters, not so sure about wide reaching cartels though.

genericguy

Peter Anthony wrote: »

I know how ridiculous it sounds yes, and Im paranoid. But Im not the only one thinking it alot of the other regular guys pulling back from here, there are Gardai and lads involved posting on here, monitoring people and most if not all reading. Why wouldnt they there is free info on here and its a way to stir things. And not all the stuff on here can be found online I think thats the point there was confidential info put out on a number of occasions. There was confidential unknown info about Gareth Hutch released online and then he was killed hours later. And Noel Duggan also

Anyone with no horse in this race can see how corrupt the Guards and media are and whats going on. Im sure all their fanclub and loverboys will be on to flame me for this no doubt

The media are regurgitating what's on here.
The criminals are looking over their shoulders, not at the screen.
The gardai are mentally deficient.

You'll be grand.

genericguy

realdanbreen wrote: »

The only drug dealers that the provos took out were the ones who owed them protection money. Bottom line is if you take drugs you keep these tramps in business .

Or you might say that by keeping drugs illegal the government is keeping them in business

Benevolent Misanthrope

genericguy wrote: »

Or you might say that by keeping drugs illegal the government is keeping them in business

But while they are illegal, RDB is right of course - it pays for the lifestyles of criminals from Ireland all the way to wherever the drugs are sourced, and all the misery that goes with it.