bajer101 wrote: » Listen to Bicky. He has said more in a couple of sentences than Paul Williams or Nicola Tallant have said in month's of bullshít articles. I'm definitely out after this.http://www.independent.ie/incoming/manic-driver-crashes-at-mater-hospital-screaming-for-medical-assistance-for-passenger-with-gunshot-wounds-30512245.html
JustTheOne wrote: » Read and weep bitch.http://www.irishcentral.com/news/dublin-has-become-the-gun-murder-capital-of-europe-69575922-237669061.html According to a recent study, Dublin has the highest rate of gun murder in Europe. The rate is almost as high as some cities in the U.S. like Washington D.C.
Allyall wrote: » I thought it was the money from the bank job - €7m? How much was the Tiger kidnapping cash?
Esel wrote: » "Joe, the amount of 'new' posters on that thread would bleeding wreck your head. Is it that they think we're slow? Ya wouldn't know who to believe, Joe. Your mate Bunny Carr - he knew his rights. Stop the bleeding lights!" "Joe? Hello? Joe? Sorry Joe, I have to go. There's a knock on me door. I'm lying on the floor. Listening to that Warren Zevon song - 'and get me out of this'. Call me back, Joe. I have to go."
bajer101 wrote: » Listen to Bicky. He has said more in a couple of sentences than Paul Williams or Nicola Tallant have said in month's of bullshít articles.I'm definitely out after this.http://www.independent.ie/incoming/manic-driver-crashes-at-mater-hospital-screaming-for-medical-assistance-for-passenger-with-gunshot-wounds-30512245.html
Bam Bam Mickey wrote: » bajer101 wrote: » Listen to Bicky. He has said more in a couple of sentences than Paul Williams or Nicola Tallant have said in month's of bullsh t articles.I'm definitely out after this.http://www.independent.ie/incoming/manic-driver-crashes-at-mater-hospital-screaming-for-medical-assistance-for-passenger-with-gunshot-wounds-30512245.html You keep saying that! Your heartfelt "regret" at gossiping on a thread about poor murdered criminals, is losing it's integrity.
bajer101 wrote: » Listen to Bicky. He has said more in a couple of sentences than Paul Williams or Nicola Tallant have said in month's of bullsh t articles.I'm definitely out after this.http://www.independent.ie/incoming/manic-driver-crashes-at-mater-hospital-screaming-for-medical-assistance-for-passenger-with-gunshot-wounds-30512245.html
Arsemageddon wrote: » This article is absolute guff. No figures, no methodology just a grossly simplistic headline. Here's a more recent breakdown of global figures for comparisonhttp://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/jul/22/gun-homicides-ownership-world-list From a quick glance the gun homicide rates in Albania, Bulgaria, Belgium, Italy, Switzerland, Luxembourg*, & Macedonia are higher *(might be an anomaly due to the small size of the country) More up to date international crime data is available from the UN here https://data.unodc.org/
Allyall wrote: » How is that even similar? Two guys hiding somewhere with guns, in a lane/bush/behind a wall, and waiting for someone to pass by. Then running up behind him and shooting him in between cars, without barely stopping. You think that's not cowardice? It's not quite the same as challenging someone to a fist fight.
Ohbethehokey wrote: » Benevolent Misanthrope wrote: » It's a Garda filming a computer screen with his phone. You can see windows alright, courtesy of Microsoft. Why would they do that? What's the motivation? As if the Gardai are making themselves out to incompetent enough, why would they do this?
Benevolent Misanthrope wrote: » It's a Garda filming a computer screen with his phone. You can see windows alright, courtesy of Microsoft.
GBX wrote: » Had to laugh at the local woman who was interviewed on the radio today and said "it was discrimination that he was shot" !!
Bicky bicky wrote: » Correct me if I'm wrong but was it not the money from Stephens green tiger kidnapping which wasnt paid back that started this and patrick jnrs mouth after that calling Gary a penny boy for the k cartal den boxer shot by mistake BMW x5 was used had to be sum1 close to k cartal then then the seized shipment in England?
Jude13 wrote: » I believe it was leaked from a watsapp group beign sent from gardai to gardai
bajer101 wrote: » humberklog wrote: » I didn't read all of your post. But I get the gist. What's happening in Dublin at the moment would make for one hell of an enthralling gangster novel. This is akin to some of the finest stories told but it's happening now. So of course it's going draw speculation on the salacious goings on. Also, because of the truely terrible (and frightening) quality of information via the mainstream media reporting gardai soundbites I think it's important that threads like this exist. Hey, I get it. I'm just remonstrating with myself. I was taking some sort of perverse pleasure in knowing more than other people and that was wrong. My final point on this, and this is very much aimed at all the people who just regard all drug dealers and anyone caught up in this as "scummers"; If there had been a mistake made in the maternity hospital on the day that they were born, and instead of being driven home to the leafy suburbs, they were instead sent home to live in the inner city, their lives could have been very different. Instead of posting comments on Boards tonight castigating the "lowlifes", they could be tooling up. We're all the same. Bye.
humberklog wrote: » I didn't read all of your post. But I get the gist. What's happening in Dublin at the moment would make for one hell of an enthralling gangster novel. This is akin to some of the finest stories told but it's happening now. So of course it's going draw speculation on the salacious goings on. Also, because of the truely terrible (and frightening) quality of information via the mainstream media reporting gardai soundbites I think it's important that threads like this exist.
Coat22 wrote: » Such a pile of sh*te. I know plenty of people who've grown up in sh*tty parts of the south inner city, Ballymun, Darndale, Tallaght etc and all of whom I admire for getting on with and achieving things in their lives. The common denominator in them all is their parents and grandparents who wouldn't allow them to grow up as layabouts etc. I know one lad who grew up in York St and was persecuted because he had the audacity to go to college but is now a successful professional because his mother, father etc made the effort with him. I'm sick of people complaining that its the fault of where they grew up or the governments that they didn't get off their ar$e and forge a life for themselves. Not everyone can be a doctor but everyone can find something to do to get by.
tomofson wrote: » Is there two Derek Hutches? One is the guy with the glasses who goes by the name Delboy? Then there is another Derek Hutch
Juan8 wrote: » Coat22 wrote: » Such a pile of sh*te. I know plenty of people who've grown up in sh*tty parts of the south inner city, Ballymun, Darndale, Tallaght etc and all of whom I admire for getting on with and achieving things in their lives. The common denominator in them all is their parents and grandparents who wouldn't allow them to grow up as layabouts etc. I know one lad who grew up in York St and was persecuted because he had the audacity to go to college but is now a successful professional because his mother, father etc made the effort with him. I'm sick of people complaining that its the fault of where they grew up or the governments that they didn't get off their ar$e and forge a life for themselves. Not everyone can be a doctor but everyone can find something to do to get by. Yeah but some people are born with junkies as mothers and fathers, thats hardly their fault, others are just stupid and easily led, maybe cause their junkie parents never bothered getting up in the morning to bring them to school, everyone has different circumstances, I'm obviously not saying this is an excuse to go around shooting people and dealing drugs, but if you're involved in it from a young age from circumstances like I said above it happens easily.
Coat22 wrote: » Agree but your point agrees with mine - the problem in the above circumstances is not the "area" or the "government" but the parents. Feel sorry for the kids in such circumstances but its their parents at fault here not where they ended up living.
bajer101 wrote: » Daniel Kinahan one of those shot! Don't cross The Monk!
bajer101 wrote: » The Costa boys made a huge mistake in taking out Gary. They then compounded it by targeting Del boy in prison. The final straw was trying to put the hammer on the Monk's brother for money. He was nearly left with no option but to come out of retirement swinging. Very, very silly move by the Costa's. It smacks of young guns losing the run of themselves. Targeting the family of the man who masterminded the Brinks robbery who has shown that he is very bright and can plan operations to a tee, was idiotic. One thing is for sure, today was a game changer. I'm waiting to hear it confirmed who it was that got shot in the leg. The lads who carried out this today were a cut above. They could have just as easily gone for three head shots. If it was Dan Jr. who got it in the leg, then today was just a warning of what is possible and Dan Sr. may broker peace. Interesting times.
bajer101 wrote: » This is The Monk we are talking about, so whoever got killed was the one who it was decided would be killed. Different person, different message. I reckon David Byrne (not Liam Byrne), and a non-fatal to Dan Jr. Despite all the histrionics in the tabloids of mayhem and kids screaming, this was without a shadow of a doubt the best planned hit that has happened here in a long, long time. Headshot to the lesser Byrne (or maybe Rowe), and a leg wound to Dan Jr. is my bet. Calculated, but not all out war. In its own way, it's an olive branch. I've met him and have heard enough tales. He really is a clever fúcker. If he had been born in the leafy suburbs he would be the CEO of a Fortune 500. He made his money the hard way.
bajer101 wrote: » I've been doing a fair bit of thinking about all of this today and I have decided to bow out of this thread. There is a natural public appetite for these stories. it is real life Love/Hate and Sopranos. Sure The Sunday World and Paul Williams have made a very good living from feeding on this natural curiosity. I may have been viewed as someone who had a bit more information And it started off with Gary Hutch. Thanks.
The flying mouse wrote: » bajer101 wrote: » Daniel Kinahan one of those shot! Don't cross The Monk! bajer101 wrote: » The Costa boys made a huge mistake in taking out Gary. They then compounded it by targeting Del boy in prison. The final straw was trying to put the hammer on the Monk's brother for money. He was nearly left with no option but to come out of retirement swinging. Very, very silly move by the Costa's. It smacks of young guns losing the run of themselves. Targeting the family of the man who masterminded the Brinks robbery who has shown that he is very bright and can plan operations to a tee, was idiotic. One thing is for sure, today was a game changer. I'm waiting to hear it confirmed who it was that got shot in the leg. The lads who carried out this today were a cut above. They could have just as easily gone for three head shots. If it was Dan Jr. who got it in the leg, then today was just a warning of what is possible and Dan Sr. may broker peace. Interesting times. bajer101 wrote: » This is The Monk we are talking about, so whoever got killed was the one who it was decided would be killed. Different person, different message. I reckon David Byrne (not Liam Byrne), and a non-fatal to Dan Jr. Despite all the histrionics in the tabloids of mayhem and kids screaming, this was without a shadow of a doubt the best planned hit that has happened here in a long, long time. Headshot to the lesser Byrne (or maybe Rowe), and a leg wound to Dan Jr. is my bet. Calculated, but not all out war. In its own way, it's an olive branch. I've met him and have heard enough tales. He really is a clever f cker. If he had been born in the leafy suburbs he would be the CEO of a Fortune 500. He made his money the hard way. bajer101 wrote: » I've been doing a fair bit of thinking about all of this today and I have decided to bow out of this thread. There is a natural public appetite for these stories. it is real life Love/Hate and Sopranos. Sure The Sunday World and Paul Williams have made a very good living from feeding on this natural curiosity. I may have been viewed as someone who had a bit more information And it started off with Gary Hutch. Thanks. To me it seems your bowing out as your hero is not the hero you made him out to be, Also your other posts here it seems trying to equate criminals/drug dealers/gangsters with normal hard working tax paying people as if there all the same, erm no there not. And the shooting of Gary hutch was not the start as you well know, but that does not sit well with your analyses that hutches are the good guys in all this ? they are equally as bad as the costas and its just the hutch/dissos and your hero made a complete **** up and now there is mayhem .As you know him personally ask him is he so clever now ? and whats he going to do to end it ?
bajer101 wrote: » This is The Monk we are talking about, so whoever got killed was the one who it was decided would be killed. Different person, different message. I reckon David Byrne (not Liam Byrne), and a non-fatal to Dan Jr. Despite all the histrionics in the tabloids of mayhem and kids screaming, this was without a shadow of a doubt the best planned hit that has happened here in a long, long time. Headshot to the lesser Byrne (or maybe Rowe), and a leg wound to Dan Jr. is my bet. Calculated, but not all out war. In its own way, it's an olive branch. I've met him and have heard enough tales. He really is a clever f cker. If he had been born in the leafy suburbs he would be the CEO of a Fortune 500. He made his money the hard way.
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