Burger Please wrote: » To be fair, if my taxes could be reduced by reducing the spending on health and safety and nanny state campaigns, I am all for it, even if some don't fair out so well!
Burger Please wrote: » I have a simple, yet important question. Why is it that we as humans, (or at lease some of us) cannot simply let natural selection take place as nature intended it without the nanny state and high hiz HSE getting in the way. For example, a cyclist breaks red lights and gets flattened by a car or bus, that is simply the weaker and more stupid dying off and perhaps others may learn from seeing the incident. Another example is all those people in high viz simply "keeping everyone safe" around the luas works. Others should simply be careful and if one or two people die in the process then it may makes others more careful. I cannot figure this out, it's not as if there are not already enough humans in the world!
Xaracatz wrote: » If God wanted us to wear hi viz, we would have been born with a shiny vest on our backs. Some flashing lights on our sides wouldn't go amiss. Well, unless we were trying to hide from predators at night. And the power of invisibility. That would be cool. Anyway, to return to the point, if God wanted me to respond properly to an OP, he would have given me a better attention span.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » Just for the record, this is a classic case of blame the victim. It's less controversial than the classic rape cases where people like to blame the victim, but it's the same thing. OP I'll take a stab and predict that you've never lost someone close to you, you don't work in a manual job, you have completely taken for granted the danger that the team world presents and the safety given to you be the HSE. What about the people who are ht by a drink driver? Their own fault I suppose?
wokingvoter wrote: » Imagine your beloved close family member is distracted for one second while crossing the road, say blinded by sunlight, and is smashed into the ground by a 3 ton truck. You've been brought to the morgue to identify her cold bloodied still dead body. Are you going to stand there, shrug , and say to the orderly "that's natural selection for ya" before strolling away nonchalantly ?
Burger Please wrote: » By HSE I am referring to the health and safety executive. I do not work in a manual job, but know may who do and are very good at their profession and have many complaints regarding H&S. I have lost many close to me, in fact I one of the only one of my direct family alive, only child you see. Some deaths were natural some not, that is the way of the world, no point crying over spilt milk. Being hit by a drink driver is different, the drink driver should be severely punished. As for your first case, that is very circumstantial, however should their be clear cut evidence and not a crying in court verdict then the guilty should be neutered.
Burger Please wrote: » Again have seen the results of family members accidents first hand, what is done is done. Suck it up, move on and be more careful than they were!
wokingvoter wrote: » So you have experienced the accidental death of a family member who you were close to, and your reaction was to just suck it up and muse that what's done is done. You must be highly bemused when you see news reports of grief stricken families at funerals following tragic house fires and such like. It was , after all , they're own fault that the house went up in flames. All the kids are dead, so what? what the f**k are they crying about?
Burger Please wrote: By HSE I am referring to the health and safety executive. I do not work in a manual job, but know may who do and are very good at their profession and have many complaints regarding H&S.
Burger Please wrote: I have lost many close to me, in fact I one of the only one of my direct family alive, only child you see. Some deaths were natural some not, that is the way of the world, no point crying over spilt milk.
Burger Please wrote: Being hit by a drink driver is different, the drink driver should be severely punished.
Burger Please wrote: As for your first case, that is very circumstantial, however should their be clear cut evidence and not a crying in court verdict then the guilty should be neutered.
Damon Nutty Skepticism wrote: » HSA. Authority A. A. By your own standards you have fallen short on natural section.
Burger Please wrote: » You never asked where I was from : http://www.hse.gov.uk/ Granted I am a brit but due to a project at work I am essentially stuck in Ireland for a year!
Burger Please wrote: You never asked where I was from :
One eyed Jack wrote: » What's the question?
Burger Please wrote: » Precisely, if I was to feel bad for them ever day it would not help me or them or those around me. In your example case, what would crying achieve, utilize your home insurance if you can. Be thankful they got out alive!
