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Dublin GAA Discussion Thread MOD WARNING POST #2944

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Bonniedog

corny wrote: »

Happy with that. You always felt Dublin were within themselves to keep them at arm length.

I'm all for the style Cunningham is trying to implement but lads need to realise there's a time and place for just clearing your lines. Too many times we're caught trying to be clever. Good teams ruthlessly exploit stuff like that.

You can never say you're confident going into a game with Kilkenny but I think we'll run them close.

I think we'll take them.

There. Said it

Bonniedog

Brilliant PD :-)

Don't let the Kerry boy scoring a goal distract you either.

Do you need feed lines?:

"So, what was Mackers best goal against Kerry, would you say.... in hindsight..."

ProudDUB

Jayzus. That's a great result. Am deeply embedded behind enemy lines in Listowel. The locals are all mad for talking about the hurling. But I'm having none of it....even if it's on the telly in the pub & this is hurling country. I keep changing the subject back to the league & AI finals. It's a tough job, but someones gotta do it !

corny

Happy with that. You always felt Dublin were within themselves to keep them at arm length.

I'm all for the style Cunningham is trying to implement but lads need to realise there's a time and place for just clearing your lines. Too many times we're caught trying to be clever. Good teams ruthlessly exploit stuff like that.

You can never say you're confident going into a game with Kilkenny but I think we'll run them close.

Bonniedog

Impressive enough performance. Looked confident on the ball and even just comparing tonight to the Walsh Cup it is evident that Dublin are in different universe to Wexicans and are moving further away.

Cats is perfect game for them next, rather than Galway. I reckon stripey fellas be caught this year, and Dubs get first shot. Shot to nothing. Throw the kitchen sink at it.

Bonniedog

salmocab wrote: »

it won't

Probably not.

Was humming and hawing about going in tonight but took the soft option to my shame. TV it is.

Hopefully, they will keep yellabellies in their place.

salmocab

Bonniedog wrote: »

That was a bit of a tanking.

Might, however, calm down those who think that all Dublin have to do is throw out a set of jerseys....

it won't

Bonniedog

That was a bit of a tanking.

Might, however, calm down those who think that all Dublin have to do is throw out a set of jerseys....

Bret Hart

Very disappointing start too the day,with the minors getting a hammering. Hopefully the hurlers can save it from being a ****e day.

ProudDUB

Ha ! Funnily enough. There's a newish housing development in Malahide called Coill Dubh. It's just down the road from the Sylvester's pitches. Another shower that could give Kofi Annan a run for its money in all the stamps on the passports. :rolleyes:

Bonniedog

ProudDUB wrote: »

Ah, don't be knocking him now. He did a great job of promoting hurling in Kildare. Amongst Cavan people. :P

I had forgotten that one!

Coill Dúbh be serious hurlers. They only agreed on condition that Seanie run on, run off, and they never have to see him ever again

ProudDUB

Ah, don't be knocking him now. He did a great job of promoting hurling in Kildare. Amongst Cavan people. :P

Bonniedog

ProudDUB wrote: »

I doubt it. There is such a cult of personality surrounding around the man, if they have an early championship exit, the blame for it will be laid else where.

Were you not an admirer of his when he was with the United Nati.... , sorry Fianna

ProudDUB

I doubt it. There is such a cult of personality surrounding around the man, if they have an early championship exit, the blame for it will be laid else where.

Boom__Boom

ProudDUB wrote: »

Ah g'wan. It will be a refreshing change from those adoring pieces by the Barry Egan types (usually accompanied by a photo of him in Conor McGregor's gym, looking fierce intense like,) banging on about what a fearsome warrior he is. It's the middle of May, so we should be due another one in the Sindo fairly soon. :rolleyes:

His record with Armagh to date is he got them promoted out of Division 3 last year, lost to Donegal and Galway and beat Wicklow in the championship, got relegated back down to Division 3 this year. Would anyone be a bit surprised if Cavan beat them and they exited the qualifiers at an early stage this summer?

The lads in the Sindo would want to get their skates on as I could see Geezer being on his way out of Armagh very soon no matter what sort of 5 year deal he has.

ProudDUB

Ah g'wan. It will be a refreshing change from those adoring pieces by the Barry Egan types (usually accompanied by a photo of him in Conor McGregor's gym, looking fierce intense like,) banging on about what a fearsome warrior he is. It's the middle of May, so we should be due another one in the Sindo fairly soon. :rolleyes:

Nidgeweasel

BonnieSituation wrote: »

It was a great game.

Kildare only have themselves to blame. There was something bubbling for them.

People can look to Armagh now and complain that McGeeney doesn't know what he's at but really imagine if Kevin Cassidy had missed that winning point in 2011?

Then it'd have went to a replay. :P

I'm not convinced about 'Geezer' as a manager myself. I was going to do a subjective appraisal but would struggle to hide my bias so won't bother.

Bonniedog

Pierce_1991 wrote: »

Yeah the Armagh thing is interesting. Maybe they just don't have the players although they did seem to be improving a couple of years ago.

Can't recall who it was but Armagh chap on radio during Louth game seemed to suggest that Cross had sucked the life out of them, and a bit like Dublin vis-à-vis Leinster maybe, that everyone else had dropped off.

Now that Cross have fallen from their majestic heights they have worst of both worlds: No longer have their class of players and overall club standard has dropped. Their underage teams have been quite poor I think?

Pity, because they were some team in their prime, and probably didn't fully realise their potential. Again, a lot to do with Cross concentration on winning the club.

Pierce_1991

BonnieSituation wrote: »

It was a great game.

Kildare only have themselves to blame. There was something bubbling for them.

People can look to Armagh now and complain that McGeeney doesn't know what he's at but really imagine if Kevin Cassidy had missed that winning point in 2011?

Yeah the Armagh thing is interesting. Maybe they just don't have the players although they did seem to be improving a couple of years ago.

BonnieSituation

Pierce_1991 wrote: »

I agree on McGeeney, I was always a fan of his. If nothing else Kildare were a really entertaining team to watch, I always enjoyed their games. The 2011 final I think is probably the best Leinster Championship game I've been to, it was an absolute cracker.

It was a great game.

Kildare only have themselves to blame. There was something bubbling for them.

People can look to Armagh now and complain that McGeeney doesn't know what he's at but really imagine if Kevin Cassidy had missed that winning point in 2011?

Pierce_1991

Bonniedog wrote: »

I had forgotten the matches were changed because of Brucie.

Not sure I totally agree with you about McGeeney. In his last year Kildare had a decent 21s teams and I think he wanted to bring them into the senior panel even at cost of writing off their year, and it was that which cost him the job?

Having said that, he has not done much with Armagh I suppose.

People forget too how close Kildare and Wexford came to turning Dublin over in 2011. Is it a case of Dublin improving exponentially, or the others accepting what Alex Ferguson would describe as the greatest sin - mediocrity!

In Kildare's case, they fked away great underage potential imho.

I agree on McGeeney, I was always a fan of his. If nothing else Kildare were a really entertaining team to watch, I always enjoyed their games. The 2011 final I think is probably the best Leinster Championship game I've been to, it was an absolute cracker.

robbiezero

Bonniedog wrote: »

I had forgotten the matches were changed because of Brucie.

Not sure I totally agree with you about McGeeney. In his last year Kildare had a decent 21s teams and I think he wanted to bring them into the senior panel even at cost of writing off their year, and it was that which cost him the job?

Having said that, he has not done much with Armagh I suppose.

People forget too how close Kildare and Wexford came to turning Dublin over in 2011. Is it a case of Dublin improving exponentially, or the others accepting what Alex Ferguson would describe as the greatest sin - mediocrity!

In Kildare's case, they fked away great underage potential imho.

The top teams have all evolved a substantial amount in the last 4 years, Dublin most of all. The strength and conditioning of these teams is almost professional. They all have well drilled defensive systems, their support play is top notch as it is futile to carry balls into tackles against these teams now due to the expertise in tackling (which is a facet that really differentiates tier 1 teams from the rest).
Whenever I watch the likes of Kildare, Meath and Laois, I just think they are still playing the same style and level of football as they did 10 years ago. No real defensive system, can concede large scores, carrying the ball into tackles etc.
The likes of Meath and Kildare really need to take a long look at what they are doing. There is no reason they shouldn't be at the same level as the likes of Donegal, Tyrone and Mayo other strong traditional football counties. Hopefully some of the good work being done underage in Kildare will bear fruit soon.

Bonniedog

I had forgotten the matches were changed because of Brucie.

Not sure I totally agree with you about McGeeney. In his last year Kildare had a decent 21s teams and I think he wanted to bring them into the senior panel even at cost of writing off their year, and it was that which cost him the job?

Having said that, he has not done much with Armagh I suppose.

People forget too how close Kildare and Wexford came to turning Dublin over in 2011. Is it a case of Dublin improving exponentially, or the others accepting what Alex Ferguson would describe as the greatest sin - mediocrity!

In Kildare's case, they fked away great underage potential imho.

gormdubhgorm

klairondavis wrote: »

Kildare have not played a home Leinster Championship fixture since 1995.

It would not make any differnce where the lillies played.
They are the most over-rated team in the country I think, mainly because when McGeeney was managing them he had perfected staring intently into the distance. Yet never managed to beat teams he should not have or even run them close. No sign of improvement only regression.
The staring into the distance seems to have wowed the journo's who would go on about things like "intensity" and "drive".

klairondavis

Bonniedog wrote: »

Home game for Dublin, should be in Parnell. Not sure who was drawn first in football. I suspect it was Kildare as can't see the Wexicans surrendering home advantage in that!

Kildare have not played a home Leinster Championship fixture since 1995.

Bonniedog

Home game for Dublin, should be in Parnell. Not sure who was drawn first in football. I suspect it was Kildare as can't see the Wexicans surrendering home advantage in that!

Stoner

billyhead wrote:

How come the match on Saturday is being played in Croke Park. Would it not make sense for the GAA to play it in a packed Parnell?

Double header for Welford no?

Bogballers and stick fighters at war on the same day

Or

5.15pm Football, Wexford v Kildare
7.15pm Hurling, Dublin v Wexford

Bonniedog

I did say you were only using it in jest!

BTW, the originator of the term, afaik, was another SINDO journo who is no longer with us.

It is one of those Pavlov's Dog terms for me, but obviously you don't mean it in same way!

On another note - did anyone hear the Longford manager before the Offaly match? He spent the whole interview basically saying that there wasn't really much point in them even playing because even if they did win a few matches they'd have to play the Dubs, and that their best players weren't available, and a few other excuses besides.

Dempsey tore him a new one, politely, pointing out that there were Longford players who had beaten Dublin at both minor and under 21, and were actually the best players in the county!

It was possibly the most pathetic interview I've heard since Mattie McDonagh of Galway threatened to bring Dublin to the High Court the day after the 1983 final.

Apparently Heffo's reaction was priceless, and unprintable :-)

billyhead

How come the match on Saturday is being played in Croke Park. Would it not make sense for the GAA to play it in a packed Parnell?

BonnieSituation

Bonniedog wrote: »

Is that the Ulster bogball you are referring to :-)

The Glorious Sport of Ulster Bogball to you.

ProudDUB wrote: »

Thanks BS. The term has been in use, long before Ian O'Doherty purloined it to have a go at the GAA. And it will be use long after he has gone to the Retirement Home For Sad and Bewildered Journalists. A couple of years ago, there was a thread (not created by me) over on Ressers, called the 'Schtick Fightin' Qualifers'. No one seemed to object to it. But if the scumbags, gougers, gurriers, delicate flowers on here, don't like it, it is duly noted.

I've often used the term stick fighting to distinguish between it and stick ball (golf) in a funny and idiosyncratic way.