Subcomandante Marcos wrote: » Or we could just accept that he got out classed by a superior fighter and move on.
RonanP77 wrote: » We could if he had actually faced a superior fighter. Diaz is good but nothing special. If McGregor prepares right for a rematch and fights intelligently, he should win it.
StringerBell wrote: » I bet Nate demanded mega money
JJayoo wrote: » When is Nick Diaz back? It would make a lot of sense to push Connor vs Nate back until Nick is back or has a fight lined up. Try and get some of that Nate love from the media and new fans onto Nick.
Devastator wrote: » Following up from yesterday's post, the MMA encyclopedia, TalksMainlyZhite, have now obtained a video from inside the restaurant where Nate met with Dana & Lorenzo. They're still running with their Dana agreesively stormed out story but their video only shows a very friendly start to the meeting....I suppose the only person in Stockton with a smartphone mustn't have had their phone fully charged
Mellor wrote: » Dana has confirmed it didn't go well. he posted this on twitter. It's a screen shot from a journo. The comment above is probably an old text that Dana didn't reply to
pone2012 wrote: » Diaz should demand more than Mcgregor imo, maybe thats what he did They need him for this fight more than Conor imo...Conor will pull impressive numbers regardless, but only him vs Diaz will pull the highest given the controversy surrounding it....
Regardless we've already seen this fight, and we know the result...Nate Diaz on his worst day beats Conor McGregor ...the evidence supports this
StringerBell wrote: » The ease in which Diaz dealt with McGregor suggests he is a superior fighter alright, there is literally no evidence of anything else going from the first fight.
Mellor wrote: » The fact Conor will pull huge numbers means they don't need Diaz as muh as Conor. I any other fight, Diaz isn't a draw, he has nothing to leverage with. and despite winning the last time, he doesn't deserved more. Worth isn't based on ability. I think its a bit weird to say to evidence says Nate always wins when he was clearly losing for the first round, and beyond. Sure he should be favourite. But there is almost never a sure thing in MMA, and a sure thing will never lose a round. Nate wasn't a sure thing the last time. And he isn't one this time. MMA fans/bookies are in general far too results based. After the fact, in any fight that isn't a close decision, they convince themselves that that was the only outcome. Conor always defeating Chad at 189 for example...Simple not true, Chad very nearly finished that. Conor always KO's Aldo...We've no idea what could of happen. I'll be interested to see where the odds go once this fight is announced.
pone2012 wrote: » I meant for this fight...they need Nate... Conor was the one who wanted it not him...so it's Nate who's calling shots as to whether it happens imo. The evidence suggests that Conor was training for a title fight against a tougher opponent (imo, although few would argue that) and nate took the fight on a few days notice...I don't buy the weight story either that so many people used Conor walks around and trains at that weight.. he couldn't take Diaz's shots.... Panicked, went down and got beat on again.. Before giving the back to him....Conors shots didn't phase Diaz yet two clean ones from him was the beginning of the end I totally agree it's unpredictable... But from what we've seen...logically Nate is the superior fighter... So while not a sure thing... I'd be 85/15 in Diaz favour... That's just my opinion of course, but it is evidence based
mdwexford wrote: » So you think McGregor is about a 6/1 chance. I'd like some of those odds.
pone2012 wrote: » I wouldn't put money on him to win anyway that's for sure His confidence has been knocked as well...that's why he didn't show up to the press events either I can only see this ending one way...maybe a slightly longer fight put still a submission from Diaz
jimmii wrote: » Surely at 6/1 you must think that is value though do you or do you think he's going into Leslie Smith v Cyborg territory!
pone2012 wrote: » I just can't see him beating Diaz on any level On their feet he cannot hurt or phase Diaz... And Diaz rocked him with a jab and a cross...says it all really On thr ground... Well Conor doesn't stand a chance there Unless he stays back and just picks shots the whole fight...but even then he missed so many the last time...his accuracy wasn't that great So..the evidence suggests it's a no go And I don't gamble tbh...maybe a game of poker here and there..so that's not really relevant to me
jimmii wrote: » Do you think he has a 0% chance of winning?
pone2012 wrote: » Diaz 85-90% Mcgregor - 10-15% That's just how I see it...the last fight said it all imo
