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Are most Irish people thick c.unts?

JackieBauer

Yeah, we have a world class literary history and all that but do you think most of your colleagues at work and friends are simply daft, thick c.unts?

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SEPT 23 1989

people are not thick but seem souless

And it's growing

Westernyelp

WarZ wrote: »

It's not the 15th highest, you need to take into account the other joint placed countries ahead of us (of which there are many) to get an accurate picture.

We are the lowest ranked in the western world. That is a fact.

Will you listen to the Electro Bitch! are you a bit thick or what?

WarZ

Kaitlyn Alive Comet wrote: »

God above, fifteenth highest SCORE. Not fifteenth highest country. Our IQ score shares joint fifteenth place in the world. That and being ranked lowest among developed countries aren't mutually exclusive.

You don't need to be sarky. The way you explained it a lot of people would come away thinking that we were the 15th highest placed country in the world and that everything's grand when in actuality we are very poorly ranked when compared to other western nations (the worst) and worldwide we rank behind 50 other countries. This is extraordinarily poor for a western country in fact the only country dumber than us in the EU is Lithuania!

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

WarZ wrote: »

You don't need to be sarky. The way you explained it a lot of people would come away thinking that we were the 15th highest placed country in the world and that everything's grand when in actuality we are very poorly ranked when compared to other western nations (the worst) and worldwide we rank behind 50 other countries. This is extraordinarily poor for a western country in fact the only country dumber than us in the EU is Lithuania!

SCOOP 64

Yeah but were did the Englishman , Scotsman, Irishman. jokes originate from were the Irishman always comes out the thick one, I personally think it comes from a generation long gone, The Irish leaving school/ collage these days are far from thick.

zl1whqvjs75cdy

Thread needs poll. But yes.

getzls

Only the two that were daft enough to marry me.
Poor girls

FizzleSticks

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pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

Yeah but were did the Englishman , Scotsman, Irishman. jokes originate from were the Irishman always comes out the thick one, I personally think it comes from a generation long gone, The Irish leaving school/ collage these days are far from thick.

That's a question with a lot of different answers in fairness. Colonial ideology being one of the big ones. We don't look particularly apelike compared to other countries, either, but for colonial purposes that image of us suited. Unlike many other colonised populations, we're white, strip an Irishman and an Englishman naked and you can't tell the difference, there had to be a difference; and one based on our inferiority, to justify colonial role. Enter the Celt (us and the Scots). White, yes, but stupid, violent, unpredictable, and incapable of self-governance.

And yes, also, for most of our history most of us were fairly uneducated, huge illiteracy and innumeracy rates, and that takes generations to fix from a strong start, which we've only managed in the past few decades really. We didn't speak English and if we did we spoke it funny. We were Catholic and therefore seen as a bit primitive.

If you look at fiction and reportage about the Irish by the English and others up til the early-ish twentieth century, another interesting thing is that we're not always (or not all of us) presented as straight up thick, but as deviously pretending to be stupid in order to exploit people. The 'cute hoor' kind of thing.

sjb25

wofias8 wrote: »

if this thread is anything to go by, then yes

smash

Sir Osis of Liver. wrote: »

Faces look ugly.

When you're alone

Olishi4

smash wrote: »

When you're alone

Women seem wicked, when your unwanted

smash

Olishi4 wrote: »

Women seem wicked, when your unwanted

Streets are uneven, when you're down!

Maireadio

I worked with a bunch of girls before, all either postdocs or working towards science PhDs and sweet jesus. Such a bunch of dull, conventional, uninquisitives broads I have never met. :rolleyes:

Getting excited about celebrities' wedding dresses, discussing fake tan application, and don't get me started on the time they were discussing a girl they know whose other half beat her. According to them, she was stupid and no amount of telling them that this kind of abuse can be insidious would convince them otherwise. No sympathy the woman at all, just smug superiority. I tried to offer a different viewpoint but swiftly realised that it's not worth talking about stuff like this in work.

Usually, in most workplaces, I found one kindred spirit, but nope, there was none to found in that place. Gawd, I hated that job.

munster87

smash wrote: »

Streets are uneven, when you're down!

When you're strange

JakeArmitage

holy guacamole wrote: »

At a certain point in your life you eventually realise that 95% of the world's population are thick c**ts?

If you never make this discovery then you are one of them.

Hi Thickcunt

Sh1tbag OToole

Hmm.. If 'Irish' was substituted with any other nationality in the thread title I wonder how long it would take for the padlock icon to start appearing beside it

timthumbni

I've always wondered about how you actually measure intelligence. Some of the so called stupidest (iq wise) people I know are artists with their hands. Various trades and it really is something to behold when you watch a good joiner or carpenter do their thing.

Similarly some of the supposed cleverest people I know are socially and practically backward.

pragmatic1

Everyone is thick to some extent. However, you can gain at least some knowledge from most people.

Even the most intelligent make mistakes and people that wouldn't be considered the brightest sparks can be insightful at times.

KomradeBishop

I dunno - you don't need to be smart to be happy and live a decent/successful life - in fact, a good dose of ignorance can make a lot of morally questionable things a hell of a lot easier for you - maybe dumb people are smart after all :pac:

Generally though, I don't think adults are really all that much smarter than many teenagers - the amount of utterly stupid things so many people believe, and the number of ways (otherwise very intelligent) people can get trapped in dumb ways of thinking, is staggering really.

fryup

we're so thick that some of us stand in the middle of the road eating a 99

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKIew_9NuVw

lawlolawl

I work in public transport and I deal with hundreds of people every day.

We haven't an ounce of common sense in this country. Anyone in retail will tell you that this country is awash with utter imbeciles.

conorhal

Taco Chips wrote: »

You could definitely arrive at that conclusion if you based your impression of Irish people on the standard of comments they leave on Facebook, under news articles etc... I prefer to believe that there's a self selecting bias of the thickest ***** commenting the most frequently. Generally people I speak to in real life have more sense.

There could be a generational thing too, some of the thickest, most ignorant comments with sweeping generalisations and logical jumps are posted frequently by an older demographic. This isn't an absolute obviously, just an observation on pattern.

This post reminds me of a Mark Twain quote

"When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished at how much he had learned in seven years."

The stupidity and arrogance of youth.

I think the difference these days is that stupidity has never had such a broad forum nor been heard so loudly in public thanks to modern technology. It used to be that you had to engage with stupid to suffer it, these days it's broadcast at you.

conorhal

KomradeBishop wrote: »

I dunno - you don't need to be smart to be happy and live a decent/successful life - in fact, a good dose of ignorance can make a lot of morally questionable things a hell of a lot easier for you - maybe dumb people are smart after all :pac:

Generally though, I don't think adults are really all that much smarter than many teenagers - the amount of utterly stupid things so many people believe, and the number of ways (otherwise very intelligent) people can get trapped in dumb ways of thinking, is staggering really.

Well there's a difference between IQ and emotional intelligence. Some of the smartest people I know are also some of the dumbest.
I think that there's an argument to be made that as a society we're more educated than any previous generation but perhaps not as smart as some previous ones.

Eugene Norman

fryup wrote: »

we're so thick that some of us stand in the middle of the road eating a 99

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKIew_9NuVw

He's taking a break.

conorhal

Eugene Norman wrote: »

He's taking a break.

Indeed, smart might have noticed that he's a newspaper hawker, who tend to stand in the middle of the road selling the Herald to cars stopped at the lights.

Enjoy your 99 on your break newspaper dude! Tough work.

mr.anonymous

Any customer facing job will show you the most ignorant, oblivious, narrow minded, rude, entitled, inarticulate people you'll ever meet.

There's also people who might not have much IQ in the traditional sense but are naturals at conversation and very thoughtful and considerate of others. Rare that you find both.

Hans Bricks

Everyone seems to think they're not apart of the 95% who are apparently 'idiots'.

I'd concur with RayM in that the explosion of social media and discussion platforms has led to the "loudest one in the room makes the most noise".

Agricola

timthumbni wrote: »

I've always wondered about how you actually measure intelligence. Some of the so called stupidest (iq wise) people I know are artists with their hands. Various trades and it really is something to behold when you watch a good joiner or carpenter do their thing.

Similarly some of the supposed cleverest people I know are socially and practically backward.

Very true. My old man left school in the 40's with a national school education. Trained as a mechanic but could turn his hand to anything practical. If something needed to be made or fixed, whether it be stonework, woodwork, metalwork, whatever, he could do it to a level approaching trade quality and often times better than that.

My uncle is a Londoner with a degree from Oxford. Theatre/Opera going, amateur historian.........the whole bit. Guy has never lifted the bonnet of his car, wouldn't know how to top up the windscreen washer. As for anything DIY in the house? They call someone in to change the bulbs in the recessed ceiling lights in the bathroom!

Who is more intelligent?!

Eugene Norman

Agricola wrote: »

Very true. My old man left school in the 40's with a national school education. Trained as a mechanic but could turn his hand to anything practical. If something needed to be made or fixed, whether it be stonework, woodwork, metalwork, whatever, he could do it to a level approaching trade quality and often times better than that.

My uncle is a Londoner with a degree from Oxford. Theatre/Opera going, amateur historian.........the whole bit. Guy has never lifted the bonnet of his car, wouldn't know how to top up the windscreen washer. As for anything DIY in the house? They call someone in to change the bulbs in the recessed ceiling lights in the bathroom!

Who is more intelligent?

The Oxford guy?