RoisinD wrote: » Whatever about the speculation is to who the person is a very big thank you to the Doolin Coast Guard who have been searching day and night since the person 's car was found at the Cliffs. They are all voluntary and do trojan work. They had said that they would keep searching until the body was found. This was the 2nd recovery this week. They are a vital part of the community and very much appreciated.
brooke 2 wrote: » That is the age of the person whose name has been mentioned a few times already. The secrecy kind of bugs me, as if Joe/Mary Blogs went missing, it would be all over the media. They would not be according much privacy to those individuals.
IvyTheTerrible wrote: » I think there is a difference between waiting til a body is identified/family informed and removing stigma from suicide, tbh.
Stephen Hero wrote: » I did the Darkness Into Light walk a couple of weeks ago and have also contributed to Pieta House. But seeing secrecy like this and deaths being reported inaccurately on an ongoing basis (i.e. suicide not mentioned) are making me regret my generosity. Want to cover up suicide? Fine but if you think you're getting funding to "raise awareness" then f**k off.
eviltwin wrote: » Surely his family know he's missing at this stage. If he's well known it could actually be helpful to release his name to the media. No one knows for certain he's killed himself, it could be a tragic accident or he might have left his car there and went somewhere else, wouldn't be the first time.
JustShon wrote: » Just to clarify by the way. I'm not trying to come at this from a "Poor me, the system wouldn't help me" point of view. I'm just using myself as a very very first-hand example of how the system handles people with obvious mental health issues.
brooke 2 wrote: » If it was something other than suicide, a car accident perhaps, his name would be out there. No amount of 'Darkness into Light' processions will remove the stigma of suicide, as can be seen from some of these posts.
brooke 2 wrote: » He has been missing for days. His family will have been through hell. Speaking as someone who has experienced such an ordeal, I believe it will be a relief to his loved ones that his body is found. I have told very few people that a sibling of mine died by suicide many years ago, mainly because there are still people who refer to suicides as 'incidents like this' and say such things as 'they might have been concerned about his reputation'. I am also aware of other fairly high profile people whose families have concealed the fact that suicide was the cause of the death of their loved one. There is a lot of hypocrisy in the media about the subject. They tend to circle the wagons when it is one of their own. Perhaps it was mentioned in the RTE or TV3 news bulletins that this individual was missing at the Cliffs of Mother, but I did not hear it.
Allison Important Raft wrote: » If he's a public figure it could be partly a litigation thing too I'd imagine?
IvyTheTerrible wrote: » I remember that, it was awful. When my brother killed himself, one of the emergency responders who came out to the house texted one of her neighbours, who then proceeded to spread the news around. One of my mum's work colleagues came out to the house to "sympathise" before my parents had even had time to call me or my siblings. Some people seem to think "news" is more important than letting a family come to terms with something.
seamus wrote: » No, not really. Dead people can't sue.
Allison Important Raft wrote: » Yeah but if it's not that public figure who's dead and somewhere reports he is, I'd imagine there's very much a policy of erring towards caution
Augme wrote: » It should be up to the family to decide if the name of a missing family member gets released, not the gossips on the internet.
LorMal wrote: » That is just bizarre thinking. You want Pieta House to 'F**k O**' ?????
brooke 2 wrote: » I agree it should be up to the family but, my point is, this is not always respected by the media, unless it concerns one of their circle.
drunkmonkey wrote: » It can't be him as he was on the phone this morning apparently.
drunkmonkey wrote: » It's not designed to help you by the sounds of it. A couple of simple changes could help a lot. I'm going back to the babies and the amount of check ups for development, house visits by the nurse, check is the food on the right levels in the fridge etc. Was going to post a link to what they do for them but the HSE website is broke right now, then decided i'd look at what it says about suicide prevention on the HSE website, it doesn't work today. If anyone is thinking of suicide over the next few days, leave it off until next weekend there maybe some useful information on the HSE website. Honestly I think we should sell the HSE to the NHS, they seem to have it a lot more together, at least their website works.
JustShon wrote: » Gardai already respect the wishes of the family in regard to name releasing don't they? The points being made are about busybodies putting the name out there without the family's consent, not the authorities.
brooke 2 wrote: » With respect, the point I am trying to make is about the media choosing which names to publish. They display no reticence, or show little respect, when a Joe/Josephine Soap is involved
DK man wrote: » If anyone is reading this and experiencing difficulties please talk to someone.....
clairewithani wrote: » In fairness new mothers can feel very isolated. In this day and age family support systems are not what they were and district nurses can pick up on problems small children have that mothers might not. Why is it suicide v new mothers? Why can both not be given support?
clairewithani wrote: » He didn't say that in fairness.
JustShon wrote: » They gave me sh1te all. I agree, they should've done way more at the time but I was in one of Dublin's many over-worked and understaffed hospitals and I suspect they wanted to get rid of me just as much as I wanted to get out of there so when I said "honest doc I'll never do it again" they were more than happy to say "case closed so" and send me on my way. Granted we don't know if this case was a suicide yet but given it's the Cliffs of Moher it seems quite likely. The place is plastered with signs with hotline numbers on them for those who need to seek help.
