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Missing man at the Cliffs of Moher.

septictank

I didn't hear about this until this morning, no idea who it is, hopefully will show up ok.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/cliff-search-continues-for-highprofile-professional-feared-to-have-fallen-into-sea-34717475.html

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Atlantic Dawn

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

maybe the family wanted to protect his "reputation" in the hope that everything worked out ok and he was found alive somewhere

no good to him now though

I suppose as a solicitor reputation would be everything but they could have said he took a bad reaction to meds and was in a confussed state or something to cover it.

smash

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

maybe the family wanted to protect his "reputation" in the hope that everything worked out ok and he was found alive somewhere

no good to him now though

Disregarding any of that, if it's the same man as was found today, then he's been contemplating this for 5 days so there's a strong possibility that someone would have seen him and reported it. It's heartbreaking!

timmythesheep

From Breakingnews.ie

The body of a man has been recovered from the water in a harbour in Co Clare, writes Patrick Flynn.
The man, understood to be in his 60's, is believed to have fallen into the water at Liscannor Harbour late last night.
His body was found floating between two boats at around 2am by a local man who alerted the emergency services.

Gardaí and members of the Doolin unit of the Irish Coast Guard responded to the scene.
The body was recovered from the water and taken to the nearby pier before being removed to University Hospital Limerick for a post mortem examination.
Gardaí are investigating the discovery, but it is believed to be a tragic accident.
Meanwhile, the search will continue today for a man feared missing in west Clare area since last Friday.
The search is being concentrated along the coast from Hags Head to Blackhead

Dolbert

smash wrote: »

Disregarding any of that, if it's the same man as was found today, then he's been contemplating this for 5 days so there's a strong possibility that someone would have seen him and reported it. It's heartbreaking!

It's not the same man.

smash

Sad news for two families now.

UpCork

Very little news coverage about this.

I suppose the silence is, as other posters, have said, to protect the persons' privacy, if it in fact turned out that he just went on the missing list for a while and had not, in fact taken his own life.

I remember when the son of Chef Derry Clarke was in a coma, the press reported it as an accident. The family wanted it this way, should he come through, in order to protect his reputation etc. Sadly, he passed away and it was only then that this parents revealed that he had in fact taken his own life

drunkmonkey

Is he still missing, seems to have disappeared off the Radar, seen as he's so high profile surprised there hasn't been more on it?

UpCork

I know I am wondering this too, why nothing on it.

[Deleted User]

If whoever it is took their own life, then you'll likely not see much coverage of it.

Plus, I mean, they haven't found their body yet, right, so everything would be speculation right now.

fryup

the COM is a suicide hot spot

drunkmonkey

Deleted User wrote: »

If whoever it is took their own life, then you'll likely not see much coverage of it.

He's fairly high profile will be headline news once it goes public. I'm just wondering had it been called off as no mention of anyone since.

maudgonner

A body has been found, according to UTV Ireland.

http://utv.ie/News/2016/05/20/Mans-body-recovered-off-Clare-coast-59262

The article has just been posted, so I'm assuming this is not about the body found a few days ago.

FalconGirl

Body found this morning by near Doolin and being brought to Ennis. RIP.

Dr Strange

http://www.thejournal.ie/body-found-missing-man-clare-2779516-May2016/?utm_source=facebook_short

drunkmonkey

He's not in his 60's the news articles have been wrong all along reporting it.

SEPT 23 1989

drunkmonkey wrote: »

He's not in his 60's the news articles have been wrong all along reporting it.

50's?

drunkmonkey

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

50's?

Yea, very close to 60 but not till next year.

john kinsella

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Yea, very close to 60 but not till next year.

Is this a fact or are you guessing who it is?

[Deleted User]

How about we wait until a formal identification has been carried out and the family members informed before making assumptions?

drunkmonkey

john kinsella wrote: »

Is this a fact or are you guessing who it is?

Told a few days ago who it was, I'm not 100% sure but the source is good, I'd be shocked if it is and so will a good few people. Doesn't make a lot of sense, never does I suppose though.

Won't say any more, will be headline news in a few hours if it's him.

SEPT 23 1989

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Yea, very close to 60 but not till next year.

it must be him so

brooke 2

UpCork wrote: »

Very little news coverage about this.

I suppose the silence is, as other posters, have said, to protect the persons' privacy, if it in fact turned out that he just went on the missing list for a while and had not, in fact taken his own life.

I remember when the son of Chef Derry Clarke was in a coma, the press reported it as an accident. The family wanted it this way, should he come through, in order to protect his reputation etc. Sadly, he passed away and it was only then that this parents revealed that he had in fact taken his own life

Iirc, it was not revealed until after the funeral.
I believe some staff at the hospital were uneasy that reports re the manner of his death were inaccurate. His mother has subsequently said that there is still a stigma attached to suicide. I happen to agree with her. I am aware of a few fairly high profile people who have had suicide deaths in their families, but were not reported as such.

brooke 2

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Yea, very close to 60 but not till next year.

That is the age of the person whose name has been mentioned a few times already. The secrecy kind of bugs me, as if Joe/Mary Blogs went missing, it would be all over the media. They would not be according much privacy to those individuals.

IvyTheTerrible

brooke 2 wrote: »

That is the age of the person whose name has been mentioned a few times already. The secrecy kind of bugs me, as if Joe/Mary Blogs went missing, it would be all over the media. They would not be according much privacy to those individuals.

I disagree. When other similar incidents happen, either the name isn't released til a body has been identified and family have been informed, or they say that "family do not wish to release the name". I don't see why this unfortunate individual should not be given the same respect. I find the speculation distasteful.

Samaris

Well, if it was someone well-known, it'd become a media circus fairly rapidly, and if it turns out not to be him, it will have interfered with the search, caused huge distress to the family and the person in question.

So yeah, I'm pretty okay with it all being kept quiet until there's something actually known.

septictank

I think it was on the Marion Finucane show someone said they rang GK and he was fine.

Samaris

septictank wrote: »

I think it was on the Marion Finucane show someone said they rang GK and he was fine.

Exactly why there shouldn't be speculating going on in the media.

"No, I didn't kill myself/fall off a cliff. Thank you for my first awkward question of the day."

brooke 2

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

I disagree. When other similar incidents happen, either the name isn't released til a body has been identified and family have been informed, or they say that "family do not wish to release the name". I don't see why this unfortunate individual should not be given the same respect. I find the speculation distasteful.

A young man went missing not too far from there a few months ago - everybody knew who he was long before his body was found. The reason people do not want to release the name is because, in spite of all the publicity and sympathy in the media for mental illness, there is still a stigma attached to suicide. If he were killed in a car accident, there would be no such reticence in publishing his name.

UpCork

Yes. There is a huge stigma around suicide, but then here in Ireland, there seems to be a stigma around so many things.
I am not saying this poor man's name should be blasted all over the media and that the red top hacks should be hounding his family, but how is 'covering it up' helping to break the stigma. Surely the more we talk about these things, the sooner the stigma will decrease?

drunkmonkey

UpCork wrote: »

the sooner the stigma will decrease?

Shouldn't it be stigmatised though, having a situation where it's acceptable and not frowned upon isn't the ideal either.
If you decide to leave las vegas and a week long search happens, all your assets should be frozen and given to the state to cover the costs, anything left then given back to the family, we need a major deterrent so people will go get help.