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most memorable murder case?

anonymous00000

just have an interest in unsolved mysteries/ murder cases (im not a creep btw)

anyways just interested to hear what people think is the most memorable case in Ireland or elsewhere?(im talking 2000 onwards)

Probably Michaela Hartes for me. or the 2 schoolgirls that were murdered by the school caretaker in the UK back in the early 2000s.

and just wondering why do you think some cases get more coverage than others? for e.g Michaela Hartes,Jill Meaghers and Karen Buckleys got huge coverage, however I don't remember Nicola Furlongs getting as much even though her case was similar in some ways to theirs esp. Jill and Karens. (even though it was still a relatively high profile case)

I know this was posted already in conspiracy theories but hardly anyone replied :P

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Galwayguy35

maudgonner wrote: »

Imelda Riney, her young son, Liam and Father Joe Walsh who were killed by Brendan O'Donnell in a wood in Clare is one that sticks in my mind. So, so tragic.

Yeah remember that well, Fr Joe was the priest in our parish when I was a kid, O Donnell used to often be around the place here as well.

Hans Bricks

rosebell1238 wrote: »

Don't think many people in Ireland would have heard of this case but the murder of Anita Cobby in Australia in the late 80s. Read about it and what happened her, just vile.

I'd never heard of this case until earlier after reading it in work, but fcuk me. All rational sense and respect for a judicial system goes out the window here for me. Kneejerk taste of their own medicine would be my reaction had I known this woman personally.

That is haunting.

Spanish Eyes

For me, amongst many others of course were the murder suicides of children and adults together.

There was a family (Wexford I think) who ordered the coffins a while before the deed, under which they and their children died.

There was another case in Cork (again I think), where the father took the daughter and they both were killed by the Dad.

That is just so fekkin selfish, to kill your kids because you might be having problems.

No worse than other murders alright, but just makes me feel so very sad.

Avoidable in many instances I reckon.

armaghlad

The Lesley Howell/Trevor Buchanan double murder in 1991. All along it was thought to have been a double suicide until Colin Howell, the husband, came forward and confessed in 2009; implicating his former lover and Buchanan's wife at the time, Hazel Stewart.

noaddedsugar

Summer wind wrote: »

Manuela Riedo was another very young girl who was raped and strangled in Galway in 2007. I remember her mother saying that "1979" by James Blunt was Manuela's favourite song and I always think of her every time I hear it. Such a horrible and senseless loss of a young girl who was just starting out in life.

I will always remember her murder, I was so shocked that something like that would happen in Galway, I always felt so safe there. I lived a 5 min walk from where she was killed and used to walk the line all the time by myself in the evenings. I also used to walk alone through the pitches in Mervue where he raped that poor French girl when I was drunk at night. I was so stupid and this story gave me such a hefty dose of cop on. I really hope Gerald Barry never sees outside those prison walls again. If he does it is just a matter of time before he re offends.

Titzon Toast

That case in France were the family from Iraq and a passing cyclist were murdered in the Alps.

Spanish Eyes

Yes the Manuela Riado murder was horrific. For lots of reasons mostly to do with the perpetrator and things surrounding his release etc. on bail. That is common knowledge.

But honesty, that child was here in Galway on a school thing. A young child really.

And she was an only child too. How awful for her parents.

Not saying that if there were other children it would be better, but I am sure many will understand that if you lose your only child to murder in a foreign country, or anywhere for that matter. Not good. Awful in fact.

May Manuela and all those murdered RIP.

Sounds trite, but what else can you say really?

Stephen Hero

think the James Blunt song is 1975

Smashing Pumpkins 1979

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The Riados were class acts in the aftermath of that too, I don't know where some people get their strength and grace. Set up a trust in her name for the Galway rape crisis centre I think

captbarnacles

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

For me, amongst many others of course were the murder suicides of children and adults together.

There was a family (Wexford I think) who ordered the coffins a while before the deed, under which they and their children died.

There was another case in Cork (again I think), where the father took the daughter and they both were killed by the Dad.

That is just so fekkin selfish, to kill your kids because you might be having problems.

No worse than other murders alright, but just makes me feel so very sad.

Avoidable in many instances I reckon.

The perpetrator in cases of murder suicides are commonly referred to sympathetically especially if they kill their own children rather than as the selfish scum they are. Its bizarre.

lazygal

James Bulger stayed with me. The horrible Mothercare cctv footage and the fact I was the same age as the two boys who killed him really made the whole thing very memorable in an awful way. My little boy is around the same age as James was. He's a real mammy's boy and I don't want to think about how hysterical he'd be if two boys took him away. He's also got a name that could be shortened to make it "cuter" and as we never call him that it'd upset me greatly to hear him called something we never called him.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

captbarnacles wrote: »

The perpetrator in cases of murder suicides are commonly referred to sympathetically especially if they kill their own children rather than as the selfish scum they are. Its bizarre.

They are quite fcuking obviously not in their right minds. They cause huge amounts of damage, but to them it seems like they're doing the only possible thing

Jamesstoney

Jaiden Scruffy Newcomer wrote: »

They are quite fcuking obviously not in their right minds. They cause huge amounts of damage, but to them it seems like they're doing the only possible thing

My sibling died in a murder- suicide years ago
Peoples lives fall apart afterwards and there is no trial or living perpetrator as an outlet or blame , just the aftermath to deal with

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

Jamesstoney wrote: »

My sibling died in a murder- suicide years ago
Peoples lives fall apart afterwards and there is no trial or living perpetrator as an outlet or blame , just the aftermath to deal with

I'm very sorry for your loss, I don't mean that to sound flippant, just don't know what else to say

Jamesstoney

Jaiden Scruffy Newcomer wrote: »

I'm very sorry for your loss, I don't mean that to sound flippant, just don't know what else to say

No problem, it's a long long time ago
Just felt the need to comment from experience

I think the most disturbing on thread was James Bulger. I remember it. To do that to a child that age, well.. there are no words

Elemonator

The Scissor Sisters. I think that was within the time frame suggested by the OP.

Any of those cases are rememberable, very grim stuff. The Elaine O'Hara was another one, but what makes them more rememberable is Paul Williams sinking his teeth into something as terrible as that for a bit of dough.

PressRun

Summer wind wrote: »

Raonaid Murray. It's horrible to think what happened to that poor girl and awful to think her killer is still free.

I remember reading something recently that suggested there might be a cover-up going on with this one? Apparently the journalist went asking questions and was met with a wall of silence. Kind of wouldn't surprise me, tbh. Somebody always knows something.

What about Sophie Toscan du Plantier? What happened to her was awful, especially because she supposedly really loved Ireland. The subsequent fiasco around finding her killer makes me very sad too.

jigglypuffstuff

I thought the Benoit murder suicide case was extremely disturbing...thats one that stands out imo..shocking stuff

timthumbni

Would the Madeleine McCann case not be up there? Or is that still treated as a missing person case?

Tin Foil Hat

Gerry McCabe isn't mentioned yet. A member of our police force murdered during a robbery of our Post Office. The murder watered down to manslaughter. The killers released far too soon to be collected from prison by a sitting TD and driven off for a knees-up. That TD was re-elected in 2016.
Fukking mental.

bottlebrush

The case of missing Tullamore girl Fiona Pender has been pretty high profile and as yet unsolved.

timthumbni

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

Gerry McCabe isn't mentioned yet. A member of our police force murdered during a robbery of our Post Office. The murder watered down to manslaughter. The killers released far too soon to be collected from prison by a sitting TD and driven off for a knees-up. That TD was re-elected in 2016.
Fukking mental.

But the IRA were simply trying to unite Ireland with that one....... No criminal activity whatsoever..... Move along.... Nothing to see here.....

Stephen Hero

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

Gerry McCabe isn't mentioned yet. A member of our police force murdered during a robbery of our Post Office. The murder watered down to manslaughter. The killers released far too soon to be collected from prison by a sitting TD and driven off for a knees-up. That TD was re-elected in 2016.
Fukking mental.

J-E-R-R-Y

FFS

Tin Foil Hat

Stephen Hero wrote: »

J-E-R-R-Y

FFS

It's Gerry. With a 'G'.
FFS what? You don't think it's strange that the murderers of a member of the police force get collected from prison by a sitting member of the parliament? In what western country is that not a scandal?

Summer wind

noaddedsugar wrote: »

I will always remember her murder, I was so shocked that something like that would happen in Galway, I always felt so safe there. I lived a 5 min walk from where she was killed and used to walk the line all the time by myself in the evenings. I also used to walk alone through the pitches in Mervue where he raped that poor French girl when I was drunk at night. I was so stupid and this story gave me such a hefty dose of cop on. I really hope Gerald Barry never sees outside those prison walls again. If he does it is just a matter of time before he re offends.

Yeah I know we were all the same when we were young. We were all so lucky we never met up with anyone as dangerous as poor Manuela did.

Summer wind

Stephen Hero wrote: »

think the James Blunt song is 1975

Smashing Pumpkins 1979

You know what we both got it wrong. It's actually "1973". I was in a hurry earlier and hit the wrong number on the keyboard. It's such a lovely song but I always feel sad when I hear it when I think of how short Manuela's life was cut.

anewme

Stephen Hero wrote: »

think the James Blunt song is 1975

Smashing Pumpkins 1979

I don't think its 1979 or 1975, is it not 1973?

angeline

In Ireland Raoinaid Murray would stand out for me. An innocent girl who despite having been stabbed was determined to get home and collapsed outside her house. Also the missing girls presumed dead, Deirdre Jacob, Jo Jo Dollard, Annie McCarrick. All cases unsolved. Deirdre Jacob had almost reached home after walking there never to be seen again.

captbarnacles

Jaiden Scruffy Newcomer wrote: »

They are quite fcuking obviously not in their right minds. They cause huge amounts of damage, but to them it seems like they're doing the only possible thing

I'd argue very few murderers are in their right mind but that won't get them sympathy. Depressives kill themselves. Depressives with a selfish streak decide to take some with them to ensure the people left behind never have a happy life.....imo obviously.

GT_TDI_150

captbarnacles wrote: »

I'd argue very few murderers are in their right mind but that won't get them sympathy. Depressives kill themselves. Depressives with a selfish streak decide to take some with them to ensure the people left behind never have a happy life.....imo obviously.

Not sure if its being selfish or dillusional ...

A cousin of my day was dying with teminal cancer and killed himself, his wife and 2 kids. His 'explanation' in a note he left was that he didnt want then togo through life grieving and missing him and he felt no one could provide/love for them sufficiently once he was gone, so they were better off not living that 'bad' life.

Warped I know but in his reasoning he did what he did to ensure they didnt suffer / have a bad life went he wasnt there to try prevent that from happening.