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most memorable murder case?

anonymous00000

just have an interest in unsolved mysteries/ murder cases (im not a creep btw)

anyways just interested to hear what people think is the most memorable case in Ireland or elsewhere?(im talking 2000 onwards)

Probably Michaela Hartes for me. or the 2 schoolgirls that were murdered by the school caretaker in the UK back in the early 2000s.

and just wondering why do you think some cases get more coverage than others? for e.g Michaela Hartes,Jill Meaghers and Karen Buckleys got huge coverage, however I don't remember Nicola Furlongs getting as much even though her case was similar in some ways to theirs esp. Jill and Karens. (even though it was still a relatively high profile case)

I know this was posted already in conspiracy theories but hardly anyone replied :P

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CarFan100

JR Ewing

Terrible what happened to him

Shawn Michaels

In an Irish context, it's difficult to look past Malcolm McArthur in the early 1980s.

Two victims, and then McArthur's found to be living with the Attorney General.

Led to Charles Haughey famously describing the whole episode as grotesque, unbelievable, bizarre, and unprecedented (GUBU).

rosebell1238

Don't think many people in Ireland would have heard of this case but the murder of Anita Cobby in Australia in the late 80s. Read about it and what happened her, just vile.

More recently Karen Buckleys, everything about that case was just hideous. You'd actually have nightmares thinking about it. The pictures of her on the night out aswell give me the chills and she dead 2 or 3 hours later :O

Also, as Holly and Jessica are mentioned a lot does anyone remember Sarah Payne? which happened around the same time if I remember correctly (maybe a bit earlier, not too sure) Can still see that picture of her in her school uniform posing for the camera with her lovely smile.

Summer wind

Raonaid Murray. It's horrible to think what happened to that poor girl and awful to think her killer is still free.

md23040

The media circus surrounding the murder of Mickey Hartes daughter Michella Mc Areavey killed during her honeymoon in Legends hotel. The cock up of the Mauritian CPS services that scape goated two hotel workers just added insult to injury for the heart broken family.

Such a bright future cut so early. This was the first recorded homicide of a tourist in Mauritius and no one was convicted for the crime.

Not G.R

I remember hearing of a murder in Howth I think, where a teenage lad crucified a toddler to the beams in his attic during a satanic ritual. There was a mass cover up by Gardí afterwards and everything was hush hush as that carry on didn't happen in Ireland :rolleyes:

GT_TDI_150

The jamie buldger case... some of the things done to that boy were horrific and its probably best most dont know / read about those.

Being from belgium, An Marchall and Eefje Lambrechts as well as Julie Lejeune and Mellisa Russo .... Mark Dutroux's victims, really hit home because of the anomilies in the case, how the investigation was handled, the accusations of a pedofile ring involving politicians, judges and high society. All that, coupled with the fact a few girls went missing around our school and were found dead later on...not a good time to think back on.

maudgonner

Imelda Riney, her young son, Liam and Father Joe Walsh who were killed by Brendan O'Donnell in a wood in Clare is one that sticks in my mind. So, so tragic.

The Graham Dwyer case remains with me for another reason - the disgraceful coverage in the media that focused on salacious details of the victim's life. He may have been on trial for murder, but she suffered trial by media. It was awful. I avoided it as much as possible but still heard way too much.

Shint0

Geoffrey Evans and John Shaw, two English men in the late 1970s who murdered two women here. Their grand plan was to travel around Ireland and kidnap and murder one Irish woman per week after raping them. I believe one is now dead and the other still serving a life sentence

zef

I always still think of Jo Jo Dullard, it's almost 21 years now since she disappeared hitching home to Kilkenny.
Think it struck a chord with me as I was around same age, and have a lot of relatives in Kilkenny. I also used hitch lifts the odd time back then.
In fact, any of the many girls that disappeared in the 90's- I see the area is referred as 'the vanishing triangle ' on wiki. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland%27s_Vanishing_Triangle

rosebell1238

Also one that sticks out in my mind and surprising no one has mentioned is Jill Meaghers, and the Oscar Pistorius case.

Sophie Tuscan de Plantier aswell.

Actually there is loads now that I think of it.

Shint0

Any of the missing women cases are disturbing. In some cases the perpetrators are known but can't be proven. I think the Deirdre Jacobs case is even more unsettling because she vanished in daylight so close to her home.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

rosebell1238 wrote: »

Don't think many people in Ireland would have heard of this case but the murder of Anita Cobby in Australia in the late 80s. Read about it and what happened her, just vile.

Fcuking hell, never heard of that

chicorytip

The still unsolved mystery of the slaughter of that English/Iraqi family in the French Alps a couple of years ago - the sole survivor being the infant daughter who laid undiscovered for hours hidden under the body of her dead mother.

Esel

notsoyoungwan wrote: »

The Robert Holohan/ Wayne O Donoghue case. I remember the husband of a colleague of mine (they lived in Midleton)joining in the search for that poor child.

Did that end up as murder or manslaughter?

anewme

Corporals Howes and Wood, dragged from their car and murdered. Still find it hard to believe that actually happened in this Country less than 30 years ago. The footage and the photographs were shocking; their families were never told the truth either, major cover up.

Keane2baMused

Esel wrote: »

Did that end up as murder or manslaughter?

Manslaughter, he got 4 years.

Shint0

Jaiden Scruffy Newcomer wrote: »

Fcuking hell, never heard of that

Barbaric. The Tom O' Gorman case was quite horrific aswell. I find it pretty bizarre that I actually know/knew two of the names mentioned in the thread

anonymous00000

jeez that is bizarre, and sorry to hear that, who did you know? if you don't mind me asking of course

CarFan100

anewme wrote: »

Corporals Howes and Wood, dragged from their car and murdered. Still find it hard to believe that actually happened in this Country less than 30 years ago. The footage and the photographs were shocking; their families were never told the truth either, major cover up.

What was the major coverup

Shint0

anonymous00000 wrote: »

jeez that is bizarre, and sorry to hear that, who did you know? if you don't mind me asking of course

One the perpetrator and their victim. The other a victim. Both unrelated cases.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

anewme wrote: »

Corporals Howes and Wood, dragged from their car and murdered. Still find it hard to believe that actually happened in this Country less than 30 years ago. The footage and the photographs were shocking; their families were never told the truth either, major cover up.

Careful now :pac:

Honestly, having family who grew up around the border during the troubles, I find it very easy to believe. Still shocking though, there's a video of the start of the incident on youtube, at about 18 seconds in the corporals' car is reversing at speed away from the crowd, by 30 seconds in there must be 50 men attacking, you can't even see the car

anewme

CarFan100 wrote: »

What was the major coverup

Their families have had many difficulties getting any information from the British Army or Govt.

They were not allowed to meet any others from their Regiment.

The person who presented himself to the families as Woods Commanding officer at his funeral turned out not to be so.

tomwaterford

CarFan100 wrote: »

What was the major coverup

The thinking being what two supposedly ranked members of the British army were doing driving around Belfast at an ira funeral and why they passed through a steward who attempted to turn them back

About a fortnight after another ira funeral was attacked by gunmen in a presumed case of collusion....

All going well the North will never return to that madness...those itching for violence would do worse than to watch videos of that funeral and see what becomes of a community after 30 odd years of violence

..noones family should have to see there loved ones killed like that

anewme

I watched a program on the Broadwater Farm Riots in Tottenham and the killing of PC Keith Blakelock.

It was a drama re-enactment.

I had trouble sleeping after it.

Sam Quentin

http://www.independent.ie/regionals/argus/news/murder-trial-told-accused-was-in-angry-mood-told-to-leave-bar-26904921.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/michael-mcdonagh-bareknuckle-boxer-jailed-5135050

http://www.herald.ie/lifestyle/murdered-mums-diary-reveals-her-life-of-fear-27987416.html

Probably not memorable to most of you!? But if you look into these 3 murders in particular and how savage and brutal all three are, then you will understand why they are quite 'memorable' in the local area....

K-9

I know you said post 2000 but Malcolm McArthur in 81 was weird, killed 2 people, ended up in the Attorney General's apartment and brought down a Government through little fault of their own.

The weirdest case is the 2 Swedish sisters, 1 of which lived in Ireland for a time, who turned up on the side of a motorway in England. They'd been on a bus but the driver ditched them at a motorway service station because of bizarre behaviour. Police got called and a series of strange, unforeseen events started happening.

https://player.fm/series/casefile-true-crime

Excuse the spooky music but it is worth a listen to, the Ericsson sisters, episode 17.

Sam Quentin

anewme wrote: »

Corporals Howes and Wood, dragged from their car and murdered. Still find it hard to believe that actually happened in this Country less than 30 years ago. The footage and the photographs were shocking; their families were never told the truth either, major cover up.

If I remember there was some helicopter footage released or talked about!? Where both men where stripped and badly beaten and one in particular put up a fruitless fight for survival until eventually the gunman arrived.... and well you know the rest.

Esel

Sam Quentin wrote: »

If I remember there was some helicopter footage released or talked about!? Where both men where stripped and badly beaten and one in particular put up a fruitless fight for survival until eventually the gunman arrived.... and well you know the rest.

Talk about a highly charged situation. Gibraltar killings, Stone attack, subsequent funeral, wrong place, wrong time.

Samaris

callaway92 wrote: »

Holly Wells & Jessica Chapman

I think everybody can recall the photo of the two girls in the Man United jerseys.

Yeah, that one still stays with me. After all this time I can still picture that photo clearly enough that I could probably give a pretty good description of the two girls. Like that photo of Madeleine McCann.