100cent wrote: » What can I do about foreign countries' laws?
robdonn wrote: » OK.... yup, thought about it. Still seems to mean that you're "more than happy" with the law allowing Irish women to go murder their babies somewhere else.
100cent wrote: » Since when do 'finances' mean anyone can't get pregnant? You'll have to expand on that one.
eviltwin wrote: » Nothing but pro life campaigns could tackle the constitutional right to travel, could seek to criminalize abortions in the UK and the sanctions on women who do abort here to be strictly enforced.
100cent wrote: » Murder is your word. Do you really view it as such?
Lurkio wrote: » I think its fairly obvious what I'm getting at, and I didn't want to get into the specifics in my original question because that would enable this kind of evasion. Suffice to say that the woman believes she cannot - for whatever reason - become pregnant and deliver due to whatever consequences she might fear. In the scenario I described earlier (linked here), what are the different courses of action she might take.
100cent wrote: » How would we go about that then. Are you a Constitutional Lawyer?
robdonn wrote: » Is that your only objection with the content of my post?
eviltwin wrote: » No but I'm sure a campaign group would have access to one. It's just a funny little anomaly, woman cannot have abortion here or she risks jail but the constitution guarantees her right to have one overseas.
100cent wrote: » I have no objection. I just find it strange you view an abortion as murder, given your previously stated beliefs.
100cent wrote: » Don't get pregnant and if she does, do everything in her power to ensure herself and her baby get through the nine months free from harm and deliver her beautiful baby girl or boy.
100cent wrote: » She doesn't risk jail in my world view.
100cent wrote: » I'm more than happy with the current legal situation that is in place.
Lurkio wrote: » The woman is using contraception, so the "don't get pregnant" thing is a bit odd. She is trying not to become pregnant. Your alternatives are "don't get pregnant" and "deliver the child"?
lazygal wrote: » But only the beautiful ones!!
lazygal wrote: » What if she doesn't want to do that? How should the state ensure she doesn't kill the unborn child?
100cent wrote: » Make it a crime to offer or obtain such a procedure in this country.
robdonn wrote: » But she does in Irish law. Up to 14 years imprisonment.
100cent wrote: » That prison sentence is available to the the abortionist also, something I'd lose no sleep about.
lazygal wrote: » It already is a crime. How can criminal sanctions protect the unborn?
robdonn wrote: » But it is also available to the woman who had the abortion. No problems with that?
100cent wrote: » In reality no. Because no woman has spent a night inside for said crime in my living memory.
100cent wrote: » Yes.
robdonn wrote: » What has that got to do with anything? A woman could tomorrow be sent to prison for 14 years for obtaining an abortion illegally in Ireland. Should they enforce that part of the law or remove it?
Lurkio wrote: » As she is using contraception, she has already taken precautions against getting pregnant, and no method is 100%, so what do you suggest?
100cent wrote: » I'd happily enforce it for the abortionist. If it was remover Marie Stopes would be opening their abortion chambers in downtown Ireland.
robdonn wrote: » Nothing to do with the question I asked.
100cent wrote: » Take up a hobby?
