Custardpi wrote: » This old chestnut again. Relativism at its finest. No room for cultural highs & lows? I certainly don't believe the music of my youth (80s) was the best ever, nor do I necessarily think that the music of today is the worst there'll ever be or has been but the reality is that there hasn't been any really groundbreaking stuff released in a good while. Where's the 2016 equivalent of NWA, Kraftwerk, Nirvana, Chuck Berry, The Beatles' Revolver, The Stooges Raw Power, etc, etc? Bands & albums that really shook up the music scene, even if it wasn't completely understood at the time. While it's possible that right now a modern day version of The Velvet Underground (sold feck all albums at the time but ended up being hugely influential) is quietly putting out a release I'm highly sceptical. Which is not to say there aren't extremely competent musicians out there & bands which are highly entertaining to see live, I just don't see anything earth shattering at the moment, there has indeed been better times for music.
Custardpi wrote: » So much for the dream of the internet democratising music & putting power into the hands of independent artists, eh?
Custardpi wrote: » Interesting video buried, they look cool live though I'm not sure how completely stand out they are. Thrash metal fused with noise rock with a free jazz influence. I don't think they'd go beyond a small (if very loyal) fanbase in any era to be honest.
LightsStillOn wrote: » It did. There's an endless amount of artists making a living off music now that wouldn't have had a chance in hell without the internet. Labels for the most part are a thing of the past, you don't need a multi million corporation backing you anymore feeding tons of money into promotion and music videos. It helps having them when it comes to sales, sure. But the profit margin in what you'd pay back to them compared to what you earn doing it DIY or on a smaller independent label is massively different.
Custardpi wrote: » Surely having your label fund expensive studio time & engineers plus great quality gear helps a bit though versus doing on the cheap yourself? True enough they'll have you by the balls after but in the lp era (long gone now of course) there were amazing albums made because of this. There's no way that Led Zeppelin's albums would have sounded as good if they had just been doing it themselves & recording onto their portable tape decks or whatever.
DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: » The entertainment industry rules the mainstream charts these days. Everything has become very processed, labels have songwriters on staff, the artist has very little input.
Custardpi wrote: » Where's the 2016 equivalent of NWA
DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: » The entertainment industry rules the mainstream charts these days. Everything has become very processed, labels have songwriters on staff, the artist has very little input. This is different from times past when the mainstream was bands and solo artists who wrote and performed their own material. Great stuff is still being produced out there, you just won't hear on terrestrial radio.
BuilderPlumber wrote: » I agree. Today it is unfortunately about creating albums of modern songs written and sung by writers and singers who are favoured by the media, record labels, etc. and then sold to us. This includes all those boybands and all them awful Irish country singers. All these talent competitions also do not help with matters. The sad thing is that singers of modern pop genres such as boybands and country music do not care about having an input into the stuff they record. All they care about is quick money and they go along with whatever their managers and the media. In times past, a singer or a band could write proper songs, cover other songs and revive public domain songs. This as you correctly point out is still happening but the media just want to push poor modern pop fare like boybands and country music.
LightsStillOn wrote: » Figured I'd give this a little bump as today has been a bit hectic for new albums, some of the best this year coming out: James Blake - The Colour In Anything LUH - Spiritual Songs for Lovers to Sing Death Grips - Bottomless Pit Kaytranda - 99% JMSN - It Is Anohni - Hopelessness Gregory Porter - Take Me to The Alley Skepta - Konnichiwa Dan Michaelson and The Coastguards - Memory Juliana Barwick - Will Not bad for a Friday in May. Been a pretty great year so far I think!
riclad wrote: » Most people think the music was best when they were a teenager , or in their 20s. So people over 30 stop listening to new music. Theres always a certain amount of bad music in the charts . alot of good music is never heard on radio, I think maybe music was better in the 90s, or the 80s, to some extent ,in that to be in a band you had to learn to play an instrument , and play it well . Alot of modern music is made by people using software on laptops , who never touched a guitar . singers like beyonce will be remembered in 10 years , as she is a great singer . She doesnt write many songs but her music has a message . Alot of songs in the charts will be forgotten in a few months . Using the internet ,soundcloud ,youtube , singers can bypass the big record companys .
Anesthetize wrote: » How is this any different to 20 years ago?
buried wrote: » The "charts" are no indication good modern made music. And it's no excuse either, if you can utilise the internet in the same way you can utilise this forum while being a actual fan of music then you'll have no problem finding modern music you can enjoy. If your a fan of "charts", fair enough, your f**ked, but that isn't the fault of artists making good music nowaday's. The fault is your own and your over reliance on what a dead industry wants you to listen to. That's your own fault.
BuilderPlumber wrote: » The charts and anything on the mainstream media are for the most part awful. There is tonnes of modern pop and modern so-called country music fired at us in Ireland by the media that has absolutely not one redeeming feature. Yet why are we being sold and brainwashed by this awful fare. I thought I heard it all when it comes to the worst of the worst but nothing prepared me for hearing a singer calling himself Lee Matthews singing a boyband-disco-country version of 'Cotton eyed Joe' on a radio. It was the same beat and lyric over and over. I googled this clown and discovered he was involved in every poor Irish music scene from boybands to modern country to Irish hip hop. He is like Derek Ryan only 100 times worse.
buried wrote: » especially in Ireland
Chain Smoker wrote: » huh?
buried wrote: » "Huh" what? Read the rest of the post where I've explained it
Chain Smoker wrote: » It's nonsense though, innit? You're not making any comparisons to other country's or anything. There's no need to bring a Irish slant into the thing at all.
Andrewf20 wrote: » I also feel that 2000 onward went a bit pear shaped. Nostalgia has a large part to play I find - songs go up in value the older they get. 1984 was a great year for the charts.
buried wrote: » Your totally correct, but I think that a lot of people, especially in Ireland, view music as just another mass popcorn fueled, mainstream show of escapism and enjoyment and nothing else. Music isn't important to these people. They view music as the same they would view the GAA, where the thought process is kind of like - "if everyone else in my community enjoys this kind of thing - then I can just go along and enjoy it also" Its escapism and entertainment that involves very little effort, and that's fair enough if that's what's some people enjoy or want to be involved with, and the far majority of the these kind of people in Ireland ARE the mainstream and just want to view music this way. If your an actual fan of music and like to make the effort to enjoy, discover and listen to all types of music from any age, past or present then none of this $hit that I've described above should even be of any concern
Welsh Megaman wrote: » In terms of the singles chart, the year 1999 can only be described as diabolical. Here are just a few of the chart hits that year. Brace yourself... Boyzone - When The Going Gets Tough Boyzone - You Needed Me Steps - Better Best Forgotten Vengaboys - We Like To Party Cartoons - Witch Doctor 911 - A Little Bit More Martine McCutcheon - Perfect Moment Shanks and Bigfoot - Sweet Like Chocolate S Club 7 - Bring It All Back Vengaboys - Boom Boom Boom Boom Geri Halliwell - Look At Me Adam Rickitt - I Breathe Again Lolly - Viva La Radio Cartoons - Doodah Britney Spears - Baby One More Time Lou Bega - Mambo No.5 Eiffel 65 - Blue (Da Ba Dee) Ronan Keating - When You Say Nothing At All Ann Lee - Two Times Vengaboys - We're Going To Ibiza S Club 7 - S Club Party Lolly - Mickey Cliff Richard - The Millenium Prayer Offspring - Pretty Fly For A White Guy B*Witched - Blame It On The Waetherman B*Witched - Jesse Hold On Westlife - Swear It Again Westlife - If I Let You Go Westlife - Flying Without Wings Westlife - I Have A Dream/Seasons In The Sun A1 - Be The First To Believe A1 - Summertime Of Our Lives :blink:
sryanbruen wrote: » Out of that list I like only 3 songs.
Shannon757 wrote: » There are songs you can like on that list!:eek:
biko wrote: » Give it time OP, it's only March still. It can still get worse..
