Speedwell wrote: » As far as I or anyone else knows, it works according to math and physics. Do you work on some other schema?
love humanity wrote: » Are you comparing an ancient global religion with billions of believers to a made up satirical "god" by atheists to poke fun of religious people?
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » And with that one sentence you have just bashed an entire religion. I guess it's only Christianity that suffers from persecution complex.
love humanity wrote: » Are you saying you don't control how you think? Does someone have access to your brain and control it for you?
love humanity wrote: » More cliche stuff imported from american atheists *sigh*
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » So do you respect my god the flying spagetti monster?
love humanity wrote: » No religion should be bashed , nor should atheism or agnosticism.
Baggy Trousers wrote: » You've heard of brain washing? "Give me a child for for his first seven years and I'll give you the man"
love humanity wrote: » Point is, it is a cliche and a huge generalisation.
Baggy Trousers wrote: » Can you give me an example of unorganised religion? No. Point?
Speedwell wrote: » Great, you try your own personal math and physics and let me know how it works out for you.
Baggy Trousers wrote: » They sure do. Everyone seems to wear very narrow blinkers as far as organised religion is concerned. Can you give me an example of unorganised religion?
love humanity wrote: » Everyone filters their own realities. Your reality and my reality are different as is everyone's. We control it, it is not autonomous as you suggest.
love humanity wrote: » Everyone filters their own realities.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » You're right of course, Christianity bashing is getting way out of hand, I think all religions should be bashed equally seeing as they are all as bad as each other.
love humanity wrote: » Bashing of Christianity is encouraged in the media (especially USA media which we get a lot of here) and the people bashing follow what they are fed by them.
Speedwell wrote: » Regardless, reality doesn't care how people spin it or who preaches whatever to the contrary. Reality just is.
love humanity wrote: » No that is a quote from an American president. I am talking of the mass media and entertainment industry.
Speedwell wrote: » "Let me be clear as I can be: In politics and in life, ignorance is not a virtue. It’s not cool to not know what you’re talking about. That’s not keeping it real or telling it like it is. It’s not challenging political correctness… that’s just not knowing what you’re talking about.... The rejection of facts, the rejection of reason and science — that is the path to decline. It calls to mind the words of Carl Sagan, who graduated high school here in New Jersey, he said: 'We can judge our progress by the courage of our questions and the depths of our answers, our willingness to embrace what is true rather than what feels good.'" - President Obama, Rutgers University Commencement That US media Christian bashing?
Marhay70 wrote: » Really, only in the last century? The Catholic Church has been guilty of evil over the whole course of its existence. That is not to say that there are no genuinely good people in all positions throughout the church, there are and always have been. It is the church as an institution that is the problem, successive hierarchies have abandoned the principles of love, tolerance and forgiveness as preached by Jesus, in favour of a totalitarian system which demands obedience and conformity in all cases.
Safehands wrote: » You know, part of me agrees with you. There is no doubt that evil stalked the corridors of the Catholic church throughout the last century.
Safehands wrote: You know, part of me agrees with you. There is no doubt that evil stalked the corridors of the Catholic church throughout the last century. It wasn't only the last century though. I believe that God and any semblance of goodness, completely abandoned the church for long periods of the middle ages. They are changing, but very, very slowly. Recently a close relative died in St Francis hospice. I attended a memorial, organised by the Capuchins, for the relatives of those who died in the past year. It was absolutely terrific. If the young people you speak of, could witness that side of the church, I think they would not want to see it completely tossed onto the scrapheap. I came away thinking that there is a role for the church in society, but they really must get back to the basics and abandon the pomp and nonsense that infuriates so many people.
LuckyDude12 wrote: » Over the past few days i've seen so much debatable talks about Christianity as a whole, and i'm sick of it... ( primary school shouldn't have christian based ethos ) ( census discussion about whether you are christian or not ) ( non religious funerals ) ( the good friday drinking ban )
Baggy Trousers wrote: » A lot of very bad things were done in the name of "Christianity" in this country in the last 100 years. People are angry at having been duped for so long. I think it's payback time. I am convinced that the current generation of kids will be more enlightened/informed about religion and less frightened by religion and will cast it to the scrapheap.
looksee wrote: » As to the children who are already in religious schools, that could be solved by having an overlap period when children entering a state school did not have religious instruction but children already there would continue with the current situation as long as they were in the school.
