Lukker- wrote: » The numbers don't really back this up. The fact is if Conor or Ronda are on the card it will double the buys. The UFC can groom new stars but it takes time to build them up and you'd have to imagine they are at least 2 years off bringing through another superstar, whoever that may be. Even when Weidman was champ he didn't have close to the pull Ronda or Conor did and you'd think he ticks many of the boxes. Undefeated, family man, literally a walking piece of apple pie, the person who dethroned Silva. Historically the UFC haven't had too many stars that have transcended the sport itself. GSP was one. Brock possibly even though he was short lived and Ronda, Liddel and Silva was probably the biggest of all. He was at one time the biggest sports star in Brazil but after he got popped and lost his title people don't even want to know who he is there. So I disagree, the UFC itself is part of the attraction but not it needs it's big fighters to prop it up. The show must go on of course but the UFC would very much prefer if that was with Conor.
Cathy.C wrote: » Has to rankle with Lorenzo that someone he is having a power struggle with is still the biggest PPV draw for his company and that fighters are turning down slots on the biggest night in UFC history just to fight that fighter on another card.
Cathy.C wrote: » UFC don't exactly come away from this smelling of roses either. Reprimanding Conor so publicly, in such a disproportionate way, they might very well have won the battle, but they have far from won the war and are also far from unscathed, in an overall sense at least. Yes, they will lose out on $40m or so but more than that, they have also come across as quite amateurish in how they have dealt with this situation. There is a reason that most professional sports fine their stars for missing certain events, not meeting their obligations etc and that is because it works and also because there is little consequence the for the sport or its fans when they do that. What the UFC did however was grossly cut off their own nose to spite their own face. They publicly deflated one of their most vocal stars, in a way which would be akin to a circus showing a video each night of how they inject sedation into their man eating lions before each show. McGregor's bark won't seem as fierce now when they wheel him out on Conan and Kimmel. End result being that they saw to that their main star would miss their main event and quite simply, it would not happen in any other sport, be that a heavyweight boxing champion getting pulled from a world title bout, or a football star being pulled from a European Cup Final. Baby, bath water and all that.
Wrongway1985 wrote: » UFC201 etc would probably make Nate more money against an opponent he already beat not to mention not sharing PPV points with Jones, Tate etc. He's hardly worried about a number before 196 his 6 previous fights were on free TV.
A milestone alright new arena in Vegas and such biggest night many variables suggest may be it isn't but no doubt the UFC marketing machine will tell you it is
The UFC mightn't come out smelling as roses but crucially Conor doesn't either.
Conor publicly stating 200 won't do 1.5 million buys sounds like wishful thinking and simply if that's the case a very woeful attitude.
pone2012 wrote: » Realistically speaking..the real reason Conor wouldn't do the Marketing for 200 is...
I did not shut down all media requests. I simply wanted a slight adjustment. But it was denied. I am still ready to go for UFC 200. I will offer, like I already did, to fly to New York for the big press conference that was scheduled, and then I will go back into training. With no distractions.
pone2012 wrote: » Conors talking about excuses??
pone2012 wrote: » Conors talking about excuses?? Realistically speaking..the real reason Conor wouldn't do the Marketing for 200 is because he's nothing left to say to Diaz...after all his mouthing he got his ass beat Conor ' Diaz you soft skinny fat fake gangster ' Diaz ' beat your ass in 2 rounds ' Conor ' .... ' Diaz effectively rendered Conors best asset useless in this situation..So Conor took his ball and went home...UFC didn't wear it for a second IMO the only one making excuses here is Conor tbh
Mouthalmighty wrote: » I think people are quick to hang CMcG here. I think his claim has some merit, he does a press event in Vegas, 14 hour flight, jet lag, & all other factors = a week of training missed. American fighters have a max of 3-4 hour flights = a day of training missed maybe two. Yes the situation got a wee bit silly at times with McG's tweets but I believe that CMcG is right in his assertions and saying no. He is essentially acting like a martial artist as opposed to a prize fighter on this occasions. He wants to train and improve as he is fighting a bad MF in Diaz. I think people are overlooking the challenge that Diaz presents for any fighter. He is very well rounded, teak tough along with being much taller bigger and stronger. I don't see why skype or some such can't be used and as a previous poster the UFC is biting off their nose to spite their face. He is THE BIGGEST DRAW period. He WILL sell a crap load of PPVs. This is an easily solvable problem but the brass won't do it out of ego (which is on both sides to be fair). I just want to see a good fight.
Mouthalmighty wrote: » He WILL sell a crap load of PPVs. This is an easily solvable problem but the brass won't do it out of ego (which is on both sides to be fair).
weldoninhio wrote: » With his latest ramblings McGregor is in danger of becoming a parody of himself. Claiming he's gonna toy with Diaz when the rematch happens. After all his excuses about getting back to basics etc. He'd have been as well keeping his mouth shut in the build up to Diaz, whenever it happens and concentrating on winning rather than talking nonsense.
John_D80 wrote: » You may only have been exposed to him since he went to the UFC but to be fair to him, McGregor has been verbally lambasting his opponents since long before he was in the UFC at all. The verbal sparring was always part of his ''prep''. So that (slating Diaz) is all part of him getting back to basics IMO. Its one of the things he does best. Just because Diaz won the last fight, that doesn't mean he is not vulnerable to a good old fashioned psych-out!! :-)
Saipanne wrote: » I don't see McGregor getting to Diaz, mentally. Not even slightly.
John_D80 wrote: » Saipanne wrote: » I don't see McGregor getting to Diaz, mentally. Not even slightly. Perhaps he will, perhaps he wont. But at the very least it seems to be a big part of his own mental preparation and it seems to help him, as much if not more than it hinders his opponents. A lot of fighters need to stir up animosity within themselves for their oppponents as part of their pre fight routine. Ive always thought Conor was one. Once the fight is over that layer of animosity fades away.
Saipanne wrote: I don't see McGregor getting to Diaz, mentally. Not even slightly.
TheNap wrote: » My god can he stay off social media for a week at least. Yes you caught him with your uppercut on numerous occasions. Caught him and had no affect on him. I look at that as a negative not a positive. From initially taking the defeat well i think the longer time goes on the bigger affect the defeat has had on him.
cloudatlas wrote: » Conor's approach is all based on 'The secret' book affirmations the philosophy being, if you say it out loud and you believe it it will come to pass.
rusty cole wrote: » Subcomandante Marcos wrote: » Put it this way, Condit is a better striker than Conor, is bigger than Conor and he couldn't put Robbie away. Robbie throws absolute bombs and is a massive welter weight. If he fought Conor, it wouldn't last very long, he'd wade through everything Conor threw at him and then unleash a bomb of an overhand left and it's night night time. Conor is an average sized LW and a big FW, he's a very small WW. Weight classes exist for a reason. We saw what a big LW did to Conor, Robbie Wouldn't take 2 rounds to wobble Conor and when did he wouldn't do the humane thing and choke him out, he'd throw bombs from the top until the ref stopped it. Conor will defend his FW belt and after that if he doesn't lose to Frankie, he can talk about going to LW and fighting someone like Ferguson. Diaz or Khabib. I really don't think he has a hope in hell of getting the LW strap though, it's just a completely different ball game in that division. I have to pull ya there, condit is not a better striker than mcgregor, no fecking way. mcgregor is where he is now purely on his efficiency as he admits, nominal output maximum hit rate. his power decimates 145'ers but cannot carry into WW as we seen. I agree, condit is a beast, he's a 6 foot plus lean welter weight who should go over when hit, yet he can take the best out of big rig, lawlor and GSP and still keep truckin!! I think condit is one of the greats, a real martial artist, throws left and rights followed by low then high kicks, has a very durable style and savage work rate plus fitness for weeks. He really is the champ that never was.
Subcomandante Marcos wrote: » Put it this way, Condit is a better striker than Conor, is bigger than Conor and he couldn't put Robbie away. Robbie throws absolute bombs and is a massive welter weight. If he fought Conor, it wouldn't last very long, he'd wade through everything Conor threw at him and then unleash a bomb of an overhand left and it's night night time. Conor is an average sized LW and a big FW, he's a very small WW. Weight classes exist for a reason. We saw what a big LW did to Conor, Robbie Wouldn't take 2 rounds to wobble Conor and when did he wouldn't do the humane thing and choke him out, he'd throw bombs from the top until the ref stopped it. Conor will defend his FW belt and after that if he doesn't lose to Frankie, he can talk about going to LW and fighting someone like Ferguson. Diaz or Khabib. I really don't think he has a hope in hell of getting the LW strap though, it's just a completely different ball game in that division.
PokeHerKing wrote: » Can anyone tell me why people on twitter keeping post DAD after Mcgregors tweets?
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