acronym Chilli wrote: » When you say "non-LPT" and that they were slow, you mean with no turbo at all? Those probably would have been crap. Not sure was it in 2002 line-up, but they had "1.8" 9-3s which in fact were a 2.0l 9-3 without turbo (still has 2.0l tax though). When I say "non-LPT" I mean "with normal (higher) pressure turbo" or even better "HOT" (High Output Turbo). Most of the cars sold back then (and now on used market) seem to be the 154bhp LPT, but I'd rather have a 185bhp regular turbo or the 205 (or whatever) HOT. Haven't heard any downside to the 185bhp variant. Regarding insurance: not sure about the loading. What I have found is that the Saab 93 is probably a little bit harder to insure than some others. My data is looking for quotes for my wife who's only got named driver experience. Axa would happily quote her online for that VW Golf diesel, even though it's 2001; would also quote her for the old Citroen ZX that was posted here (which was even older, 1995 or something). But put in a 2002 Saab 93 (LPT) and no dice, so it's not just the 15 year criteria. Ditto for a newer Saab 95.
jcon1913 wrote: » Most Saabs of that age were LPT. They were so heavy the non-LPTs were crap - really slow. Anyway at €800 you wont be worried about an extra €20 a week on petrol. The LPT versions were fairly quick - not s*** of a shovel quick but not half bad. And not being full turbo they dont load your insurance AFAIK.
Esel wrote: » Consider it a bullet dodged.
Bandito909 wrote: » ^1250euro
GvidoR wrote: » Sounds very good. And the price? Pls don't torture me.
Long Time Lurker wrote: » Looks the part if that's your thing ....https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2001-golf-tdi-estate-low-miles/12191818
ba_barabus wrote: » Someone posted they had spotted that car on the road and that it had mismatched panels. Haven't seen it myself however. Spec is odd too with the leather and as you point out the price has been high and dropping without a sale for what must be over 6 months now. I'd personally like to see it in the flesh but they are notorious for rust.
Duke O Smiley wrote: » The fact that he isn't willing to budge at all on the price does not bode well with me. It has been for sale a long time, it isn't as if he will have people queuing up to buy it!
acronym Chilli wrote: » Looks like a nice car, but this bit: "LPT (low pressure turbo) it is means low petrol consumption" is a bit of a stretch! I'm driving one of these in manual and it's definitely not low fuel consumption. I think in fact the LPT could have slightly worse fuel consumption. It depends a bit on your mix of driving though. (LPT supposed to be a little better for lower-rev/lower-speed, i.e. urban, drive; Normal turbo better on motorway). Not trying to put anyone off though, could be a very nice car. Do check the service history. If it's had synthetic oil on the right intervals it should be ok. Even if not, worst that happens is it dies and you're down the <800 you spent on it (plus residual tax I guess?). Even though the fuel consumption is high, what you save on depreciation/interest pays for a lot of petrol, and even with the LPT these shift pretty well in terms of acceleration through mid and up to motorway overtaking.
bear1 wrote: » What's stubborn about the price? Seems bang on for that considering the long NCT, classic insurance qualification and very nice spec.
Duke O Smiley wrote: » https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/renault-21-txi/11575455 If you didn't do much driving, and could bag a classic policy [should have very little difficulty] this would certainly make for a left field choice of transport. A fresh one year NCT cert is always reassuring on an older car. The seller is doing himself no favours with his obstinate pricing, mind.
ligertigon wrote: » I drive a Saab 93 2003 LPT. I bought it for €900. I get 38mpg on motorway. In town not so good, but thats not what its for! On B roads at 90/100kph I get just over 40. Its going to be more trustworthy than an equivalent diesel of the same era in terms of flywheel/cam belt worries. The equivalent diesel will get better mpg, but not by as much as can be justified in my view. Top that with the fact that in 5 mins it can be mapped to 220bhp and still retain similar mpg if you don't have a lead foot!
colm_mcm wrote: » Really like these, the first brisk diesel of that size car. Taxed as 2.0 as its 1905cc though.
AndyBoBandy wrote: » Saab 93 LPT with test until next April claiming only 56k miles on the clock for €800 Auto with bluetooth and parking sensorshttps://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/immaculate-saab-93-lpt-low-millage/12113091 Looks immaculate
millington wrote: » Axa, Carole Nash, Campion, MIG & Autoline also