kowtow wrote: » Ah but at the rate I go, 240 cows would take me forever to do. I'd be going one better than browned - they'd be on 'once a week' I must put away these low commercial thoughts and concentrate on artisanal retirement.
Dawggone wrote: Coming close on time to make your move...
kowtow wrote: » I was thinking in the parlour this evening that if this thread gets any more bearish I had better start buying a serious amount of cows. Or a co-op.
Dawggone wrote: Absolutely!
darragh_haven wrote: » Good time to get into dairying so Ted?
Dawggone wrote: » I've been watching this thread unfold lately and this evening I had a browse back 2/3 yrs ago... Biddy was brill at informing when cheque hit the account..Jersey101 was gung ho...DeLaval was confident...etc,etc Biddy got an average of 27.7cpl for '09... The new bottom price was 30-32cpl... Blah Blah. There was a cranky old briar 'sheebadog' that talked of 'ducking and diving' and volatility and 'one trick pony' and risk management and QUOTA and expansion and a whole load of scutter... 'Twasn't like ye were warned...
Farmer Ed wrote: You must be hanging around a more educated type of board member to me. In my experience the average board member wouldn't have a clue what any of that ment, but would just nod their heads in agreement at what ever big important sounding words managment were coming out with.
kowtow wrote: » All three. We're going to survive (thrive actually) by clinging to the past. What the overpaid boards would call exploiting the synergy of vertical integrations while capturing the higher margin elements of the customer relationship. We call it making cheese.
Dawggone wrote: As ambiguous as an ancient Oracle/Sibyl...
Dawggone wrote: Or..cling to the past?
Dawggone wrote: Survive?
WheatenBriar wrote: » No,the very large Co Op/plc will have recognised brands ,established logistics,and millions of euros in retained earnings to play with Quite different to the farmer on his own
boggerman1 wrote: » Gdt down again by 1.4%.20,000 ton on offer.18 cents a litre not too far away from being a possibility.hope I'm wrong.
browned wrote: » your were saying that there is no room in the market for say farmer brand produce but isn't the coop in the same situation only on a much larger scale.
WheatenBriar wrote: » I did not mean taking your business to maximum efficiency is the wrong mindset Ignoring being shafted on base price ,in favour of increasingly hard to find or indeed hardship making cutbacks is There is no room in the market for every farmer to make and sell his/her end product or for a whole population of new groups of small farmers to do that,they'd go broke setting up and competing with one another We have a model,it's just we aren't very good at controling it
browned wrote: » and none meant. if you can work it into any future board contract, try and organise it so that every time you can drop the words ifa, dairygold, REOX, pat smith or jim wolfe into a conversation you'll automatically qualify for a bonus.
keep going wrote: » Ah now first I m after getting a complex about my grey hair and now im being told I stink, add that to the low pay and my confidence is in bits. I ll have to go for a make over, operation transfarmation
Buford T. Justice V wrote: » GDT today, should be interesting again.
kowtow wrote: » Ah God no, not the west cork boards. They've barely got chocolate on the digestives and there is a whiff of farmer about them. Go for the big boys, get a cheap suit, and get on with taking the 'culture' out of agriculture.
browned wrote: » How is me taking control of my own business the wrong mindset. If people aren't happy with the milk price why not go out and sell their own milk cut the coop out of the equation. Plenty of farmers havent excepted poor prices in the past and added value to their milk be it in the form of cheeses, yogurts etc. this way you have full control of production marketing and sales of your produce and you're the one getting the bonuses
Farmer Ed wrote: » No offence taken. But you can always put it on your CV that you were offered the job. It's getting increasingly hard to find people to defend the pay and conditions of serial board members.
browned wrote: » Sorry man I wouldn't have a strong enough pharyngeal reflex to last the interview let alone a days work
kowtow wrote: » This one will.
kowtow wrote: This one will.
browned wrote: Bang on the money bass. The current circumstances is 22c/l and falling. Those that adopt to this new reality will survive and those that cling to the past will not.
