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Eir rural FTTH thread

rob808

I made this thread for people on eir rural blue line FTTH please keep here and don't post in Eircom FTTH 66 towns 1 Gb thread about rural FTTH rollout.

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MiskyBoyy

Gonzo wrote:

wouldn't go by that website, it hasn't been updated much since June of 2015 except for the news page.

My local exchanges were just updated to state the ftth dates within the past couple of weeks?

ED E

Its the exact same map Gonzo!

Gonzo

ED E wrote: »

Its the exact same map Gonzo!

it's a good map, the best one we can look at but I think they should have updated it a bit more by now such as colour coding the first roll-out phase.

The whereandwhen by county should give a breakdown of the approx 200 exchanges that will be ftth enabled over the next year, a breakdown of the town-lands so people are really clear that there home/premises is being upgraded or not, perhaps even an eircode checker to confirm if your home is due for an upgrade.

ED E

TBH precise estimates are just causing hassle. Look at the Talk2Eir forum thats full of complaints that "my exchange has said 6 weeks for the last 18 months".

OpenEir have to make multiple planning applications to 30(?) CoCo's and also deal with impacted ducts etc. Some problems will only crop up when they actually get to work and when you're talking 100's of km of roads and poles there'll be many problems.

Better to promise nothing then deliver suddenly than to promise something and be drastically late.

daraghwal

MiskyBoyy wrote: »

Maybe check your local exchange on here. A few of my local ones when hover over them, tell me they're supposed to get 1000mb/s by Autumn/Winter 2016 whilst some others say 2017-2020.

http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/

Can someone give me an example of an exchange that comes up with the FTTH info, I can't find any! Do I have to click on something to see FTTH info or what way does it work? My local cabinet is blue lined but all it says is live for the FTTC. I can see no info on FTTH!

daraghwal

ED E wrote: »

TBH precise estimates are just causing hassle. Look at the Talk2Eir forum thats full of complaints that "my exchange has said 6 weeks for the last 18 months".

OpenEir have to make multiple planning applications to 30(?) CoCo's and also deal with impacted ducts etc. Some problems will only crop up when they actually get to work and when you're talking 100's of km of roads and poles there'll be many problems.

Better to promise nothing then deliver suddenly than to promise something and be drastically late.

If they are going to notify people they should at least notify the correct people. They kept telling me for months that I would be getting FTTC but I knew myself that I was over 3km from the exchange with no chance of getting it. Then when the cab I'm connected to went live they eventually said oh no you can't get fibre. Sorry... It's so annoying. I don't mind them letting people know but at least tell the right people...

ItHurtsWhenIP

daraghwal wrote: »

Can someone give me an example of an exchange that comes up with the FTTH info, I can't find any! Do I have to click on something to see FTTH info or what way does it work? My local cabinet is blue lined but all it says is live for the FTTC. I can see no info on FTTH!

Here ya go...

lucernarian

I went and looked at Nenagh and saw no such pop-up box. I checked with both http://www.openeir.ie/Our_Network/#nga-map and http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/

I just see a box for NNH_E01 saying that fibre is enabled.

I've checked on Chrome and Internet Explorer

daraghwal

lucernarian wrote: »

I went and looked at Nenagh and saw no such pop-up box. I checked with both http://www.openeir.ie/Our_Network/#nga-map and http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/

I just see a box for NNH_E01 saying that fibre is enabled.

I've checked on Chrome and Internet Explorer

I was the same but if you go to SELECT NGA EXCHANGE STATUS: at the side of the page and tick all then it will come up. Bigger markers pop up and show more information.

Ron603

'Estimated date for first Live FTTH Fibre Services with speeds up to 1000Mb/s is Winter 2016'
This in Killarney, Co.Kerry. We'll see...

daraghwal

Ron603 wrote: »

'Estimated date for first Live FTTH Fibre Services with speeds up to 1000Mb/s is Winter 2016'
This in Killarney, Co.Kerry. We'll see...

Killarney is part of the first 100,000 houses getting FTTH from eir so you actually have a good chance of getting it within the year if you live on a blue line off the Killarney exchange on the map.

And if eir don't bring it to you the Healy-Rae's will!!

Dr. Nick

Gonzo wrote: »

it's a good map, the best one we can look at but I think they should have updated it a bit more by now such as colour coding the first roll-out phase.

The whereandwhen by county should give a breakdown of the approx 200 exchanges that will be ftth enabled over the next year, a breakdown of the town-lands so people are really clear that there home/premises is being upgraded or not, perhaps even an eircode checker to confirm if your home is due for an upgrade.

Regarding the blue lines, as recently as this week an engineer pointed at a pole down our road and told my neighbour 'that's where it stops' - exactly the where the blue line ends.....

Gonzo

Dr. Nick wrote: »

Regarding the blue lines, as recently as this week an engineer pointed at a pole down our road and told my neighbour 'that's where it stops' - exactly the where the blue line ends.....

similar observations in our area. Trees were trimmed/cropped and you can see the branches on the ground in the ditches where they were cut. Once I walk past where the blue lines end there are no more branches on the ground or trimmed branches. In our area at least the blue lines seem exact.

My personal feeling is that the blue lines represented on the openeir map are very accurate even if they were originally drawn using ordinance survey map information, then edited to suit the requirements of the project.

MajesticDonkey

Gonzo wrote: »

My personal feeling is that the blue lines represented on the openeir map are very accurate even if they were originally drawn using ordinance survey map information, then edited to suit the requirements of the project.

I hope you're right, the line goes no further than my house on my road!

daraghwal

I know it's only May but has anyone actually been connected up since the 100,000 announcement or does anyone have any predictions for when the first people will be connected up? Also is there any indication of the next announcement or would that be sometime next march maybe?

Johnboy1951

Gonzo wrote: »

similar observations in our area. Trees were trimmed/cropped and you can see the branches on the ground in the ditches where they were cut. Once I walk past where the blue lines end there are no more branches on the ground or trimmed branches. In our area at least the blue lines seem exact.

My personal feeling is that the blue lines represented on the openeir map are very accurate even if they were originally drawn using ordinance survey map information, then edited to suit the requirements of the project.

I agree ...... the blue lines have specific end points, which, in some cases, seems odd as there are some houses beyond the line but very close.
The number of premises in each exchange area has been specified, not estimated, for blue-line connections.
No doubt there are some errors and mis-counts, but I expect those to be a very small minority.

So, IMO, very accurate but not exact would be what I expect.

daraghwal

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

I agree ...... the blue lines have specific end points, which, in some cases, seems odd as there are some houses beyond the line but very close.
The number of premises in each exchange area has been specified, not estimated, for blue-line connections.
No doubt there are some errors and mis-counts, but I expect those to be a very small minority.

So, IMO, very accurate but not exact would be what I expect.

They seem to be very accurate. There's just a few laneways etc that nobody lives on that are still on the map. For the first 100,000 it seems very specific on those exchanges that are due for upgrade in Winter 2016.

rob808

daraghwal wrote: »

I know it's only May but has anyone actually been connected up since the 100,000 announcement or does anyone have any predictions for when the first people will be connected up? Also is there any indication of the next announcement or would that be sometime next march maybe?

I would say mid June to early July they start connecting people to FTTH.

pegasus1

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

I agree ...... the blue lines have specific end points, which, in some cases, seems odd as there are some houses beyond the line but very close.

A fibre run will only serve so many houses...for more houses on that road/area another fibre needs to be run(ie. next phase)..they have to stop somewhere...its like a bus route..the last stop needs to be somewhere....

daraghwal

rob808 wrote: »

I would say mid June to early July they start connecting people to FTTH.

That means if they start rolling out in July they would want to be covering 440 or so houses every day 6 days a weeks! :eek: Fairly rough calculation but it would be about that

plodder

pegasus1 wrote: »

A fibre run will only serve so many houses...for more houses on that road/area another fibre needs to be run(ie. next phase)..they have to stop somewhere...its like a bus route..the last stop needs to be somewhere....

I doubt the limitation is in the cable though as there are probably dozens (if not more) individual strands in each cable. So, if the blue line ends before your house, then I'd guess it's only a matter of splicing new cable onto the existing run and continuing it on.

daraghwal

plodder wrote: »

I doubt the limitation is in the cable though as there are probably dozens (if not more) individual strands in each cable. So, if the blue line ends before your house, then I'd guess it's only a matter of splicing new cable onto the existing run and continuing it on.

Probably. It seems strange though some roads the blue line only goes for 2km with very few houses along it and then loads a little more up the road. Then at the other side of my exchange it goes for well over 8km to another village being done by the same exchange. I doubt it's limited by the cable.

ED E

They're enabling 1000-1100 VDSL lines per week right now, *ENABLING*. Thats with practiced teams who have been doing this for 2yrs now.

This might equate to 500 homes *PASSED* per week. That'd be very productive if they managed that. But note thats passed, not installed. Same as "enabled". Expect queues following the build out to actually have your drives snaked and be connected.

NB: FTTC installs are 2hr slots. FTTH installs will probably be more like 4-6hr slots.

daraghwal

ED E wrote: »

They're enabling 1000-1100 VDSL lines per week right now, *ENABLING*. Thats with practiced teams who have been doing this for 2yrs now.

This might equate to 500 homes *PASSED* per week. That'd be very productive if they managed that. But note thats passed, not installed. Same as "enabled". Expect queues following the build out to actually have your drives snaked and be connected.

NB: FTTC installs are 2hr slots. FTTH installs will probably be more like 4-6hr slots.

Do you know will FTTH be brought to the wall of every house or will it only be brought from e.g. a road to a house when it is ordered by the household?

lawlerp

I'm just after checking the status of our exchange on the efibre roll out map. The map shows two messages when I hover the mouse over the exchange -
"Fibre Broadband Cabinet is planned for this location" and "Estimated date for first Live FTTH Fibre Services with speeds up to 1000Mb/s is Winter 2016" I As the blue line passes my house, My reading is that this means that I'll be able to get 1gb fibre when the work is completed?. Is that right? I live about 4kms from the exchange. Cheers

daraghwal

lawlerp wrote: »

I'm just after checking the status of our exchange on the efibre roll out map. The map shows two messages when I hover the mouse over the exchange -
"Fibre Broadband Cabinet is planned for this location" and "Estimated date for first Live FTTH Fibre Services with speeds up to 1000Mb/s is Winter 2016" I As the blue line passes my house, My reading is that this means that I'll be able to get 1gb fibre when the work is completed?. Is that right? I live about 4kms from the exchange. Cheers

Yep. You're one of the first 100,000 by the looks of it. Eir say they'll have it done by March 2017

ED E

daraghwal wrote: »

Do you know will FTTH be brought to the wall of every house or will it only be brought from e.g. a road to a house when it is ordered by the household?

They can't work on your property in your absence. The main build guys will presumably fit it to the poles and undgerground cavities, fit the splitters then the installers work from there onwards.

Its similar to the copper network. A new area would get a pole and DP from the cabling teams, then smaller crews came back and ran the drop from the pole to the hallway.

lawlerp

daraghwal wrote: »

Yep. You're one of the first 100,000 by the looks of it. Eir say they'll have it done by March 2017

Thanks Daragh. Looking forward to this now. It would be nice to get it for Christmas

Gonzo

I'd say it will be September/October at the very earliest before anyone is connected. Building of the blue lines in each area could take months. Nowhere is planned for live switch on till Autumn/Winter 2016 as the first activation period.

yabadabado

lawlerp wrote: »

I'm just after checking the status of our exchange on the efibre roll out map. The map shows two messages when I hover the mouse over the exchange -
"Fibre Broadband Cabinet is planned for this location" and "Estimated date for first Live FTTH Fibre Services with speeds up to 1000Mb/s is Winter 2016" I As the blue line passes my house, My reading is that this means that I'll be able to get 1gb fibre when the work is completed?. Is that right? I live about 4kms from the exchange. Cheers

Yeah I have the same message and we are part of the first 100K .No work being done around our area yet from what I can see.I live 600m from the cabinet.