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Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

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http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/shots-fired-at-boxing-weighin-in-dublin-hotel-34427111.html

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- No naming people (by initials or nickname) that are not the focus of these incidents
- No Speculation
- No Gossip
- No naming addresses of suspects
- No requesting above info by PM, or otherwise

The discussion should focus on news items that have been substantiated rather than what is hearsay.
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chillin117

Paul Williams coming up, Late late show Every time someone is shot he makes money, Bit like an undertaker I suppose ....

bajer101

gangstergossip wrote: »

i heard the exact same story as you recently pal except i was been told gf instead of rb

Just getting back to this. You are right. It was GF who was lured and it was RB who lured him.

seerscryer

Peter Anthony wrote: »

I'd say round half of all "active" Dissidents are working as informants/touts with the Gardai or MI5 in the North. The other half end up assasinated in highly suspicious circumstances, and the killers are rarely if ever brought to justice.

The smart individuals who get involved, discover hard truths and can get out unscathed. Others aren't so lucky and many have made their beds.

If we were to follow this premiss, does the forum believe that the assuming that the Hutch faction were working with, or hired dissidents to assist in the Regency Hotel attack, that "informants/touts" in the Hutch camp or the dissident camp have been supplying information to the authorities?

Because if find it incredible that all of the arrests have been made against against members of the Hutch faction and republican dissidents. Most of the murders appear to be against the same groupings and yet almost nothing against the Kinahan group, except the confiscation of luxury motor cars and some watches.

armaghlad

timthumbni wrote: »

You mentioned them, not me. You were also the one who compared the psni to the Garda in terms of carrying weapons. I'm sure you are smart enough to realise why the psni and the ruc before them were armed.

Do you think that all Garda should be armed with guns? They are not under constant terrorist threat unlike the psni so I doubt there would be a lot of support for changing the current policing method in the republic. Just like in the rest of the U.K. Aside from Norn iron I think it's nice if they don't need to have guns. Though things may change in the future.

Of course I am smart enough to know why, since Northern Ireland was created the police have always been armed. That's just a symptom of partitioning a country. I compared the two because NI is substantially smaller in both size and population to ROI; yet AGS is vastly under resourced. When do you ever see the PSNI trundling about in a clapped out 01 Corolla?

tomwaterford

TheFatHombre wrote: »

You don't necessarily have to be under terrorist threat for your police force to be armed, a police force should become armed when the ones they are fighting are also armed it's simple, works in Spain

American logic.....I know what'll fix this problem....more guns :rolleyes: :pac:

SEPT 23 1989

Things usually go a bit turbo over a bank holiday weekend

Capone79

gangstergossip

bajer101 wrote: »

Just getting back to this. You are right. It was GF who was lured and it was RB who lured him.

thats some deep betrayal so rb is kinahan sided and gf is hutch sided then?

hatrickpatrick

To anyone well versed in their Dublin gang differences, is this particular feud more or less dangerous / vicious than the Rattigan / Thompson feud of the mid 2000s in Dublins 8 and 12?

The one feature which seems to be different this time is that it seems to be very much targeted shootings rather than all out street fighting, which seemed to be a feature of the Rattigan/Thompson feud. I've heard horror stories over the years about some estates around Cork St becoming no-go areas at night due to teenaged relatives of the "Big Fish" gang members openly fighting in the car parks, heard one story of some kid who was a cousin of one of the gang leaders having his dog attacked by a mob outside a shop in Crumlin, etc. In other words, the feud spilled over into the wider community and resulted in, for a few months at least, a barrage of general antisocial behaviour.

This one seemed to be more deadly, but more sparse, in that it's not so much a night after night rioting in particular roads / streets thing. Yet some on Twitter suggest that it's going to be far worse than the Rattigan/Thompson feud unless it gets nipped in the bud very soon.

Just wondering if anyone who knows more about these feuds has an opinion on this? Will we see a return to certain streets / areas of the city becoming too dangerous to enter / drive through because of the constant thread of gang violence?

Discodog

tomwaterford wrote: »

American logic.....I know what'll fix this problem....more guns :rolleyes: :pac:

The Garda use of guns is dumb. Get some nice powerful cars like Audis & Volvos & plaster Armed Response Vehicle down the side. Best way to commit an armed robbery - wait till the ARV is miles away.

The UK Police have it right. You have no idea if a car is carrying firearms.

arayess

bajer101 wrote: »

Just getting back to this. You are right. It was GF who was lured and it was RB who lured him.

if it is true that's some shameful sh1t as clay davis would say...

2forjoy

the independent.ie was saying today that its gonna be car bombs next so looks like guns wont be much use in this feud now

SEPT 23 1989

2forjoy wrote: »

the independent.ie was saying today that its gonna be car bombs next so looks like guns wont be much use in this feud now

Plenty of innocents are going to die

flanzer

2forjoy wrote:

the independent.ie was saying today that its gonna be car bombs next so looks like guns wont be much use in this feud now

If they're saying it, it must be true...........

The flying mouse

2forjoy wrote: »

the independent.ie was saying today that its gonna be car bombs next so looks like guns wont be much use in this feud now

Time to get back on the bikes so, that will confuse the dizzos :P

WarZ

2forjoy wrote: »

the independent.ie was saying today that its gonna be car bombs next so looks like guns wont be much use in this feud now

The AGS should have access to semtex if that's the case. How can we expect them to fight against these gangsters with one hand tied behind their back?

Muahahaha

Sunday Worst reporting that an ex Garda detective is under investigation for supplying false passports to the Kinahan cartel. I've long suspected that the Kinahans have certain Gardai in their pockets, this might be the beginning of concrete proof of it.

Muahahaha

WarZ wrote: »

The AGS should have access to semtex if that's the case. How can we expect them to fight against these gangsters with one hand tied behind their back?

What are you on about? The Gardai should have semtex and plant bombs? Jaysis I've read some bull on here but that is pretty out there :rolleyes:

SEPT 23 1989

Muahahaha wrote: »

Sunday Worst reporting that an ex Garda detective is under investigation for supplying false passports to the Kinahan cartel. I've long suspected that the Kinahans have certain Gardai in their pockets, this might be the beginning of concrete proof of it.

Finally nobody can get that big without inside influence

WarZ

Muahahaha wrote: »

What are you on about? The Gardai should have semtex and plant bombs? Jaysis I've read some bull on here but that is pretty out there :rolleyes:

And rocket propelled grenades. It's time to get one step ahead of these criminals.

Supernintento Chalmers

Muahahaha wrote: »

What are you on about? The Gardai should have semtex and plant bombs? Jaysis I've read some bull on here but that is pretty out there :rolleyes:

He's right, they should get a few Apache helicopters too, just to be on the safe side.

Peter Anthony

Muahahaha wrote: »

Sunday Worst reporting that an ex Garda detective is under investigation for supplying false passports to the Kinahan cartel. I've long suspected that the Kinahans have certain Gardai in their pockets, this might be the beginning of concrete proof of it.

Dont worry they are quite good at covering up their mates in the force. The amount of confidential and sensitive information the Gardai leak to the press on a daily basis for little personal benefit is absurd. Even though it's totally illegal, and despite GSOC attempting to investigate this, the Gardai coupled with the Media obstructed it saying it was attack on Independent journalism and societys interests. And then to think an International drug cartel worth nearly a Billion euro in a small country, don't have numerous moles in the Garda feeding information is lunacy.

tayto lover

I would take anything the Independent, Sun or the Sunday World etc say with a pinch of salt. Sources like " an inside gang member" or " a garda source" is a load of crap to me.
Sensationalism sells papers.

Muahahaha

I agree, if you have a business worth close on €1bn then whats €10m or €20m to pay off a few Gardai for information or safe passage of your drugs. €10m or €20m is loose change when viewed in perspective of the profits they're making. CAB should really be keeping an eye on the enemy within because they'll never win against the Kinahans if the cartel is always one step ahead of them by having a few moles within the ranks of the Gardai.

Titzon Toast

Muahahaha wrote: »

What are you on about? The Gardai should have semtex and plant bombs? Jaysis I've read some bull on here but that is pretty out there :rolleyes:

Whoosh.

slowdive74

I'm confused. How has the new IRA responded to the Barr killing?

gangstergossip

slowdive74 wrote: »

I'm confused. How has the new IRA responded to the Barr killing?

by claiming the state had a hand in his killing and are trying to draw them in to a criminal feud and denied any involvement in the regency attack and denied they supplied the weapons

WarZ

gangstergossip wrote: »

by claiming the state had a hand in his killing and are trying to draw them in to a criminal feud and denied any involvement in the regency attack and denied they supplied the weapons

You're not allowed to post in here. Bold.

slowdive74

Is that really their position or are they biding their time? Surely they wouldn't have much credibility left. Also, what was Barr's position in the organisation?

UsedToWait

WarZ wrote: »

You're not allowed to post in here. Bold.

Looks like we got us a snitch