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Mickeroo wrote: » You dont know why I thought it was spelled out quite clearly, it was pretty much the source for his character's conflict and inner turmoil over the course of the film. The act of killing his father was him overcoming his attraction to the light side in much the same way Luke overcame the dark side by not killing his father in Return of the Jedi. It was quite literally a juxtaposition of what happened with Luke and Vader.
Osmosis Jones wrote: » Well then on your whole point, the movie was quite self-contained, characters had their arcs, we had a clear beginning, middle and end and the goal was achieved. It's a story within a bigger universe so of course we'll find out more in the next installment but that doesn't make this movie worse.
johnny_ultimate wrote: » Finn could use a lightsaber because it's a glowing stick of light you can wave around and hurt people with. He was very bad at it and got defeated twice. There is no plot hole there.
johnny_ultimate wrote: » He was very bad at it and got defeated twice
Deleted User wrote: » The original trilogy are a series but you don't have to watch Empire to get full value from Jedi. Same with Jones trilogy. Hell even Back to the Future.
Zubeneschamali wrote: » Why doesn't the light saber cut through that weapon? maybe the trooper manages to catch the blade on the zappy bit every time?
It featured collapsible conductor contact vanes capable of resisting the plasma blade of a lightsaber
Deleted User wrote: » Who is Rey, what were her flashbacks about? Why is she so insanely in tune with the force, infinitely more so than luke was ever shown to be (and he fought Vader FFS)?
Who is Snoke, what is he about?
Why did R2 wait so long to activate, what's that about?
Who's Finn and why did Mas say he could use the light sabre? What's that about?
Why was Finn so adept at new weapons so fast, why was he able to even battle Ren?
Osmosis Jones wrote: » In his mind Han Solo isn't his father, he's no longer Ben he is Kylo Ren. Han is an obstacle that he has to overcome to fully commit to the dark side and he does so. It's not totally explained 100% but Kylo Ren killing Han Solo is definitely not out of the blue or uncharacteristic. In Star Wars the only line we got about why Vader did what he did was that he was 'seduced by the dark side'
expectationlost wrote: » I think he knows the guy is his father. I watched a new hope last night to see the comparison, in that Darth Varder doesn't do anything so personal just stands with the general guy as he blows up the planet, its a very impersonal act of war, if the general guy killed his father I wonder more about his motivation then him blowing up planet full of billions? of people.
johnny_ultimate wrote: » Finn could use a lightsaber because it's a glowing stick of light you can wave around and hurt people with. He was very bad at it and got defeated twice, even when fighting an already badly injured opponent. There is no plot hole there.
Tony EH wrote: » Bingo. It's quite odd. Can only Jedi and Sith use lightsabers?
johnny_ultimate wrote: » Actually, I would happily argue that to fully or even generally appreciate the various conflicts & characters in Return of the Jedi, you would definitely have had to have seen the previous films.
Osmosis Jones wrote: » Rey is a scavenger on Jakku, her "flashbacks" were visions she had when she touched the lightsaber which "called out" to her. We don't yet know why she's force sensitive, much like we didn't know why Luke was in Star Wars either Snoke is the Supreme Leader of the dark side/First Order. there's a strong possibility he is Darth Plagueis, mentioned in Revenge of the Sith by the Emporer. I assume R2 activated in response to Rey coming on board, he was waiting for Luke to come back so some sort of connection between her and Luke most likely Finn was a Stormtrooper, kidnapped as a child and trained by the first Order. Maz told him he could use the lightsaber because he was holding it and he asked for a weapon. It's a sword, not that difficult to know to swing it. We're shown that Stormtroopers have some sort of hand to hand combat training too. He wasn't able to battle Ren. Ren had been shot and even still was essentially toying with Finn, as soon as Finn got a hit in Ren cut his spine apart. Is that everything answered? These aren't so much plot points as they seem to be indicators that you weren't paying attention to the movie.
Deleted User wrote: » Who is Rey, what were her flashbacks about? Why is she so insanely in tune with the force, infinitely more so than luke was ever shown to be (and he fought Vader FFS)? Who is Snoke, what is he about? Why did R2 wait so long to activate, what's that about? Who's Finn and why did Mas say he could use the light sabre? What's that about? Why was Finn so adept at new weapons so fast, why was he able to even battle Ren? All of the answers to these stupidly important plot points can be yours by simply watching another film for the low price of another ticket. The original trilogy are a series but you don't have to watch Empire to get full value from Jedi. Same with Jones trilogy. Hell even Back to the Future. Don't say that Awakens is anywhere a self contained story. It may say "let's blow up yet another death star" but that's the side plot this time. The main plot is rey (potentially Finn also) and none of that is answered even a bit.
Tigger wrote: » Bttf2 only makes sense after watching Bttf
Osmosis Jones wrote: » Talk about condescending? Your critique is ridiculous, do you really want every single moment to be explained through dialogue? Because that's exactly what the prequels did, every moment in the prequels was explained through boring exposition, it didn't help the movies.
Deleted User wrote: » Jesus, you're the second. You don't need to watch BTTF3 to understand BTTF2. 2 sets up 3 but is a self contained story. You don't need to watch Return of the Jedi to get full appreciation of Empire. You WILL need to watch the next SW to gst full meaning of a sh1t load of things in Force Awakens
Sad Professor wrote: » This is not a commonly held view of Empire or BTTF2. Empire was strongly criticised at the time for not having an ending and leaving threads like Han's faith hanging. Criticisms which even Abrams and Josh Whedon have echoed in recent years when talking about the importance of a film having a standalone story. TFA is pretty standalone in my view. Way more so than Empire or BTTF2, which left major plot points unresolved. Questions like "who are Rey's parents" and "what's up with Luke" are fairly minor loose ends in comparison to Han being frozen in carbonate or the Doc ending up in the old west. I think fans have read too much into things, many of which won't be resolved in the next two films because they aren't important.
Mickeroo wrote: » The story of TFA itself was self contained, there are threads to be dealt with in later installments but nothing that should effect the enjoyment of TFA as a stand alone film imo. You haven't raised anything to convince me otherwise. You don't need to watch Return of the Jedi to fully appreciate Empire Strikes Back no, but you do need to watch it to see how the story ends. I think Han Solo being frozen in carbonite and finding out Darth Vader is Luke's father and Leia is his sister leave a lot more pressing questions than why Finn is able to operate an electronic sword or who Rey's parents are (which I still don't really get the obsession with, I don't think we necessarily ever need to find that out at this point personally). And no the ending of BTF2 makes no sense without BTF3, it literally ends on a cliff hanger and has a trailer for the next film in the credits. It was quite frustrating when I saw it in the cinema because I wanted to see the next part straight away, didn't really take away from my enjoyment of the second film though and the actual plot of BTF2 itself had been concluded as it was indeed a self contained story, in much the same way TFA's plot had come to an end what with it also being a self contained story in a wider narrative too. I know you'll say it isn't but that doesn't make it so.
Deleted User wrote: » It's the treating a once a year event as a TV style serial.
Edit:I don't care who her folks are but her abilities are insane and when mixed with memory flashes show that they are holding back.
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