thattequilagirl wrote: » By whose definition? I'm aware that refugees are meant to seek asylum in the first country I land in. I haven't seen any recognised body claim that if they move to a different country they are not refugees any more. Do you have a link for that?
Article 3 Access to the procedure for examining an application for international protection 1. Member States shall examine any application for international protection by a third-country national or a stateless person who applies on the territory of any one of them, including at the border or in the transit zones. The application shall be examined by a single Member State, which shall be the one which the criteria set out in Chapter III indicate is responsible. 2. Where no Member State responsible can be designated on the basis of the criteria listed in this Regulation, the first Member State in which the application for international protection was lodged shall be responsible for examining it. Where it is impossible to transfer an applicant to the Member State primarily designated as responsible because there are substantial grounds for believing that there are systemic flaws in the asylum procedure and in the reception conditions for applicants in that Member State, resulting in a risk of inhuman or degrading treatment within the meaning of Article 4 of the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union, the determining Member State shall continue to examine the criteria set out in Chapter III in order to establish whether another Member State can be designated as responsible. Where the transfer cannot be made pursuant to this paragraph to any Member State designated on the basis of the criteria set out in Chapter III or to the first Member State with which the application was lodged, the determining Member State shall become the Member State responsible.3.Any Member State shall retain the right to send an applicant to a safe third country, subject to the rules and safeguards laid down in Directive 2013/32/EU.
thattequilagirl wrote: » There's no need to divide your empathy by national or religious lines. Europe is the richest continent in the world. We can afford to do both - look after our own and help others.
Matt_Trakker wrote: » So, you've a problem with men who wear mascara eh?
tomwaterford wrote: » TBF France could just as easily pull the plug on that camp there and security measures and let them through and let it be England's problem :pac:
Galwayguy35 wrote: » Why don't the rich arab countries take more of them in, same culture and religion. Apart from Jordan none of them are making any effort at all. And it doesn't take a genius to work out why they want to go to Britain, it's for the generous benefits system they have.
tomwaterford wrote: » This being Britain where the dole Is 50 a week?? Though it is a good amd valid question as to why other Arab countries don't take them....unless they don't feel safe there??
anna080 wrote: » This thread title sounds like it could be the next Saw Doctors song..
tomwaterford wrote: » This being Britain where the dole Is 50 a week??
Omari Uneven Zombie wrote: » Whilst there is no doubt that truckers are running a gauntlet that's not really the issue here. I've little time for Wallace, mostly I can't stand him. But a very good friend of mine traveled with Calais with him (I won't name him completely but Clare Daly referred to him as 'Gary, solicitor from Dublin) and honestly the video and photos from 'The Jungle' would bring a tear to a glass eye. I've no idea what the solution is. I'm pretty much against opening the gates to an influx of refugees and I argue with my friend (Gary) re. re-enforcing Europe's borders (I'm pro stronger border measures). But we can't ignore the plight of those living in The Jungle. We wouldn't have dogs, pigs or rats live in similar.
Tabnabs wrote: » Is France really that terrible a country to start a new life in?
JoseWasntReady wrote: » They are perfectly entitled to claim asylum in France or Italy and whatever other country they travelled through. The French want them out of the jungle and have opened up perfectly acceptable accomodation centres.They are there by choice, are taking the piss and are making life hell for the residents of Calais and those who have to travel through the area. Your solicitor friend (immigration lawyer?), Daly and Wallace can visit, tut tut and then go back home to their middle class irish suburban home. The locals in Calais have to deal with it daily.
JoseWasntReady wrote: » Instead of we, why not me. There's nothing stopping you or Wallace or Daly pooling together and sponsoring some of these lads to come over here and study.
Mongfinder General wrote: » Tut, tut. Asking others to put their money where there mouth is. Don't you know it's the guberment's responsibility?
YFlyer wrote: » Are there scholarship or some sort of EU education schemes to bring some Syrian students over?
YFlyer wrote: » Government is a reflection of society.
purplepanda wrote: » Wallace doesn't seem to be worried about local issues in south Wexford, such as high rural unemployment, lack of third level education, bad transport links & closure of local rail lines & attracting industry, jobs & investment to the south east. :mad: Why Wexford vote in this crusty pacifist tramp dressed in pink who does nothing for local people is beyond me!
mynamejeff wrote: » Why would he give a bollox about wexford ? He is a millionaire with assets hidden in his familys names all across Europe on a huge wage living in clontarf co Dublin ? He will not be back creeping around wexford again until he wants more of your votes and to my dismay he will problem get some of them.
YFlyer wrote: » Mongfinder General wrote: » Tut, tut. Asking others to put their money where there mouth is. Don't you know it's the guberment's responsibility? Government is a reflection o YFlyer wrote: » Mongfinder General wrote: » Tut, tut. Asking others to put their money where there mouth is. Don't you know it's the guberment's responsibility? Government is a reflection of society.
YFlyer wrote: » Mongfinder General wrote: » Tut, tut. Asking others to put their money where there mouth is. Don't you know it's the guberment's responsibility? Government is a reflection of society.
Mongfinder General wrote: » So why isn't society a reflection of government?
longshanks wrote: » Not really. Only certain types put themselves forward for government. Namely those with a neck like a jockeys bollox, hardly reflective of all society.
sdanseo wrote: » Exactly. I have no issue with refugees in general. But this matter of trying to get into the UK is ridiculous. They should be happy with Macedonia compare to what they've come from. Getting out of Syria = Need Cherry picking what nice country you want to go and acting like an animal while trying to get there = Greed
Garzard wrote: » I can't say I have any sympathy for these people. They've brought nothing but problems wherever they've arrived en masse in Europe.
