Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). Read warning in 1st post

JustTheOne wrote: »

Yeah pretty much. But people say he was beaten fair and square whereas some people here suggest Aldo wasn't and it's not fair.

No excuses from conor but many from Aldo.

I certainly don't think there was anything unfair about how Aldo was beaten. He got destroyed and rightly lost his belt.

All I'm saying is that I think he can do better against Conor and he deserves that chance. Conor deserve his chance against Diaz too.

I think anyone who loses to someone else in any sport should be given a second chance. Lose to the same person twice without a win though and it's pretty clear who has the advantage.

akelly02

JustTheOne wrote: »

Yeah pretty much. But people say he was beaten fair and square whereas some people here suggest Aldo wasn't and it's not fair.

No excuses from conor but many from Aldo.

Conor did have an excuse, he shot himself in the foot however. He said '' 155ers and 145ers crumble under them shots. What he seems to be forgetting is Nate is a 155er. So essentially he was blaming the weight.

CSF

XsApollo wrote: »

If anything it's the Aldo fight that feels unresolved.
Would love to see them go a few rounds at each other.

Hold on a sec, let me get this straight, so the fight where one party landed absolutely no offence before being unceremoniously KOed at a weight class he'd been fighting at his all his life in a fight he'd been preparing for with a full camp feels unresolved.

But the one where the party would have been actually ahead of the scorecards before a great punch effectively ended the fight does not. How does this make sense? Seems like another of these 'twist the argument in any way that does not reflect well on McGregor' type things.

johnpatrick81

Lukker- wrote: »

It works both ways too. Conor has saved cards before, with much shorter notice both times. Loads of fighters like Werdum and Jones would have pulled and left fans no choice but to go.

You can't compare injury related pull outs to McGregor hissy fit pull out. Especially after all his "injured vagina" comments. People will defend him to the hilt, but he has screwed his fans over and made himself out to be the ultimate hypocrite.

Adamocovic wrote: »

So by that logic McGregor shouldn't have a rematch with Diaz, as his loss was a representative of his capabilities.

Gotch'ya

Yeah pretty much. But people say he was beaten fair and square whereas some people here suggest Aldo wasn't and it's not fair.

No excuses from conor but many from Aldo.

Lukker-

I feel for some fans who booked tickets but you have to expect fights to get called off unfortunately.

It works both ways too. Conor has saved cards before, with much shorter notice both times. Loads of fighters like Werdum and Jones would have pulled and left fans no choice but to go.

I think it's worth booking through booking agents for UFC events, you can do it before tickets are released and that way you can cancel and get a full refund if something goes wrong.

lougal88

Saipanne wrote: »

lougal88 wrote: »

I don't feel like he OWES anybody an explanation per se.
But I still think he should explain his actions. I think if a different fighter told the world they were on a card that they hadn't signed to they would be destroyed for it.

He shouldn't have posted it, I think everyone sees that. But if you went and booked a flight off the back of that tweet alone, then you only have yourself to blame.

As soon as I saw that tweet, I said, let's see what Dana says...

I didn't book flights off the back of it or any such thing.
I never really believed he was back on the card for 200.
I'd just like to know his thought process...
I'll tweet this, fans will love it, Dana and the UFC will crumble and book the fight?
It was as desperate as some of Aldo's recent tweets which are usually highly embarrassing.

johnpatrick81

^ that was the point I was making all along. McGregor has punked his own fans.

dulux99

Saipanne wrote: »

What has your mate paid for that can't be retrieved? Hotels tend to be painless to cancel. Flights can get something refunded. No fight tickets yet. Take the losses and plan for his next fight?

We are still going. The problem for my pal with his kid is getting him time off school. July is perfect for the summer hols, and I know it's being discussed that Conor may fight later in the summer but as someone else said booking a second set of flights wasn't feasible for them, when it may or may not even happen, and the trip to Vegas was the kids Christmas present.

Mellor wrote: »

the flights are likely the brunt of the expense and I don't think any airline does refunds. None that I've flown anyway.

You can get the taxes back, I think. Still a loss, but it's something.

Mellor

Saipanne wrote: »

What has your mate paid for that can't be retrieved? Hotels tend to be painless to cancel. Flights can get something refunded. No fight tickets yet. Take the losses and plan for his next fight?

the flights are likely the brunt of the expense and I don't think any airline does refunds. None that I've flown anyway.

JustTheOne wrote: »

Laughable.

You're only as good as your last fight.

He got beaten because he let his guard down. That is representive of his capabilities.

It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile.

You can't be seriously suggesting that getting knocked out 13 seconds into the fight is the best that Aldo could do.

I'm not making excuses for him, he fcuked up and he got smashed for it. He deserved the loss and deserved to lose the belt but he could definitely put on a better show in a rematch.

dulux99 wrote: »

I did go on what the ufc had said. They announced diaz vs mcgregor 2 and I booked flights accordingly, just like I did for 189, 194 and 196.

@saipanne, don't get me wrong, I'm not angry at McGregor for any of the debacle of him being pulled from the fight. I think he was absolutely right in what he did. However if you take my personal circumstances out of it, where he did save two of the cards, I was travelling on this trip with three guys who hadn't been to Vegas before, one of which is after taking out an absolutely gargantuan loan from the credit union to bring himself and his 15 year old son who idolises Conor. Imagine how both of them feel.

What has your mate paid for that can't be retrieved? Hotels tend to be painless to cancel. Flights can get something refunded. No fight tickets yet. Take the losses and plan for his next fight?

dulux99

JustTheOne wrote: »

In fairness you should only go by what the ufc say about fights been on or off.

I did go on what the ufc had said. They announced diaz vs mcgregor 2 and I booked flights accordingly, just like I did for 189, 194 and 196.

@saipanne, don't get me wrong, I'm not angry at McGregor for any of the debacle of him being pulled from the fight. I think he was absolutely right in what he did. However if you take my personal circumstances out of it, where he did save two of the cards, I was travelling on this trip with three guys who hadn't been to Vegas before, one of which is after taking out an absolutely gargantuan loan from the credit union to bring himself and his 15 year old son who idolises Conor. Imagine how both of them feel, and trying to explain to a 15 year old lad that McGregor was only messing when he said he was back on the card?

Adamocovic

JustTheOne wrote: »

Laughable.

You're only as good as your last fight.

He got beaten because he let his guard down. That is representive of his capabilities.

It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile.

So by that logic McGregor shouldn't have a rematch with Diaz, as his loss was a representative of his capabilities.

Gotch'ya

srm23 wrote: »

cards he was going to in the first place to support Mcgregor?

McGregor could have pulled out, like most fighters seem to do, but he didn't. So I reckon he's done enough for his committed fans.

Mellor

dulux99 wrote: »

I've had my flights booked since before this whole debacle. To wake up that morning and think for a while that the fight was back on, was a great feeling. To have it slowly unravel that it was basically a lie, wasn't very nice. It would be nice to have some sort of explanation, especially considering the money I've spent going over to Vegas, this was due to be my fourth trip in 12 months.

But that tweet changed nothing, you'd still be left here with flights booked in the same situation regardless.

I was considering going but was never going to book flights before ticket prices were out, and prob not before I had one guaranteed.

Adamocovic

Saipanne wrote: »

So he saved two cards that you attended, and yet, you still feel like he owes you...

He owes you **** all.

It's quite understandable that fans would be annoyed with whats gone on and would like to hear why he acted as such.

On the underlined bit you are right in the thinking that he isn't obligated to give an explanation of his action but despite that you would expect him to explain what happened to his fans out of respect to them.

Yes he's made it where he is through hard work and determination but without the huge support of fans he wouldn't have achieved what he has, and you would imagine as a sign of good faith to them he would explain what happened.

srm23

Saipanne wrote: »

He shouldn't have posted it, I think everyone sees that. But if you went and booked a flight off the back of that tweet alone, then you only have yourself to blame.

As soon as I saw that tweet, I said, let's see what Dana says...

obviously not many booked after that second tweet - a lot would have booked after the ufc announced the fight months back. it was annoying then having already booked the flights for conor to say he is back on it to these fans - then nothing since.

JustShon wrote: »

I definitely think Aldo deserves the rematch before Conor gets his against Diaz.

I want to see the Diaz rematch, I really want to see it but I think Conor should defend his belt first. Aldo / Edgar deserve their shot. Especially Aldo, his fight with Conor was definitely not representative of his capabilities.

Laughable.

You're only as good as your last fight.

He got beaten because he let his guard down. That is representive of his capabilities.

It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile.

srm23

Saipanne wrote: »

So he saved two cards that you attended, and yet, you still feel like he owes you...

He owes you **** all.

cards he was going to in the first place to support Mcgregor?

lougal88 wrote: »

I don't feel like he OWES anybody an explanation per se.
But I still think he should explain his actions. I think if a different fighter told the world they were on a card that they hadn't signed to they would be destroyed for it.

He shouldn't have posted it, I think everyone sees that. But if you went and booked a flight off the back of that tweet alone, then you only have yourself to blame.

As soon as I saw that tweet, I said, let's see what Dana says...

lougal88 wrote: »

I feel the same about Aldo vs McGregor, but Aldo's calls for a rematch were laughed at.

No complaints, Conor caught him rushing in. It was a fantastic KO.
But I'd love to see that rematch, think it would be a lot different if Aldo was in the right headspace.

I definitely think Aldo deserves the rematch before Conor gets his against Diaz.

I want to see the Diaz rematch, I really want to see it but I think Conor should defend his belt first. Aldo / Edgar deserve their shot. Especially Aldo, his fight with Conor was definitely not representative of his capabilities.

lougal88

Saipanne wrote: »

dulux99 wrote: »

Yes. Yes I do feel like he owes me an explanation. Considering the unwavering support myself and thousands of others have supplied.

So he saved two cards that you attended, and yet, you still feel like he owes you...

He owes you **** all.

I don't feel like he OWES anybody an explanation per se.
But I still think he should explain his actions. I think if a different fighter told the world they were on a card that they hadn't signed to they would be destroyed for it.

lougal88 wrote: »

I feel the same about Aldo vs McGregor, but Aldo's calls for a rematch were laughed at.

No complaints, Conor caught him rushing in. It was a fantastic KO.
But I'd love to see that rematch, think it would be a lot different if Aldo was in the right headspace.

Aldo was offered a rematch, he declined.

dulux99 wrote: »

Yes. Yes I do feel like he owes me an explanation. Considering the unwavering support myself and thousands of others have supplied.

In fairness you should only go by what the ufc say about fights been on or off.

StringerBell wrote: »

There is no way you could class that fight as being in any way unresolved tbh.

It's just how it feels to me, I know the fight was very much an open and shut case of Conor getting his arse kicked but I feel like it could've been different if he hadn't so massively underestimated Diaz and I guess that's why it feels like there should be a rematch.

I want to see if Conor is really all that, if he can adapt he can really show himself to be a great fighter. If he makes the same mistakes again then he's just a good fighter. That's the unresolved question in my mind.

XsApollo wrote: »

If anything it's the Aldo fight that feels unresolved.
Would love to see them go a few rounds at each other.

I agree completely. I want Conor vs Aldo more than I want any other fight. I was really hype for that fight and then Aldo made one mistake that cost him the fight. I want to see a proper war between those two.