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DIY eJuice thread

chipfox

Hey all, new user here. Nice to see a big Irish vaping community!

Anybody else make their own juices? Been at it about 6 weeks and saving so much money.

I've only tried out The Flavour Apprentice and Capella so far but I'm happy with most of the concentrates.

I figured I'd make a megathread to help everybody vape cheaper and try offer my experiences!

I've been buying VG and PG from Irish vendors (that I found on here) but the postage seems to be the big killer. Any good brick and mortar places that sell vape-grade stuff?

It's made how much you can save at the end of the day. Since I got my Kangertech Subox Mini I've been using the RBA they include to make my own coils and I love it. Every little helps

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chipfox

Is nobody else in love with basically anything that has "Milk" in the name? I don't know what it is about custard / cream vapes

That's cool about anise. It's not just about flavour. I use cinnamon danish swirl in low % as anti-Koolada.

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This is a very handy link for TFA's flavour chemical composition, useful to get an idea of what goes into these flavours:

http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/specsheetlist.aspx

Yeah it's all fakery at the end of the day. But I really geek out on this stuff and I am a bit wary of some chems and how they can change in combination.

FA are the masters of fake.

BTW I think I know FA's Nonna's cake mouth texture trick - Anise! I was playing with the anise flavour at small amounts and I was getting that mouth texture thing that feels like sponge cake. Probably a low level tingle from anise being a spice.

Thecageyone

I prefer FA's, TFA's doesn't seem to actually have much marshmallow flavour to it. I'm not anti-any type of flavouring, sheesh, half my recipes have hazard warnings

I'm talking actual flavour-wise. I don't like fake sugar types.

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Thecageyone wrote: »

I use marshmallow as my main sweetener now, can't be bothered with the em/sucralose ones. I prefer a natural sugar taste if at all. It's not like we're digesting the stuff, don't even get why people use fake sugar flavourings

Maltol is the main sweetening flavour in Marshmallow!

At least in TFA's but probably FA's and others too.

Thecageyone

I use marshmallow as my main sweetener now, can't be bothered with the em/sucralose ones. I prefer a natural sugar taste if at all. It's not like we're digesting the stuff, don't even get why people use fake sugar flavourings

You really do like those Milk mother thingies huh?

chipfox

I've been too busy with work lately to mix anything new. Just made up 250ml of my take on the Mother's Unicorn Milk on ELR. Still getting through the last 250ml of my Mother's Milk clone but needing something new, it's been weeks on the same stuff and probably 100ml left.

Gotta say though I seriously love having massive mixed bottles of delicious DIY stuff. This 250ml I just made of arguably my favourite juice of all time cost me about 9 euro. Probably less... Can't really beat that.

Never have any issues with steeping any more. Takes so long to get through it you've no option but to steep

Still tweaking my very own Fox's Milk. Don't want to post it until I'm happy but basically it's a raspberry custard base, biscuits, irish cream/ bav cream and a few other little bits

Just realised that TFA sweetener is actually Sucralose and not EM. Been wanting sucralose forever but not EM, bought it off PNM probably 4 months back and haven't used it once... No idea how that slipped past me

Thecageyone

Mixers have been very quiet lately!

I just wanted to post that after my complaint to DarkStar, about the duff cap on the 250ml nic, they sent me out a package containing 60ml Cap VC1. Sweet. Ok ... it cost me €3.50 to collect .... but that's not a bad deal

Thecageyone

j26m wrote: »

I'm on a 6% mix of FA Strawberry at the moment, and it tastes great to me.

That's what it's all about end of the day.

j26m

I'm on a 6% mix of FA Strawberry at the moment, and it tastes great to me.

Thecageyone

Been trying the nonna's cake too

It is rather good. I can see me using it a lot

On the strawberry, I've read up a fair bit on it now, and it seems you really do need to find a combination to get your desired result. Like 50/50 ripe and sweet is recommended a lot, so I've been trying that, and it seems to be working. I've tried other things like using the likes of dragonfruit and even lemon sicily to help 'pop' those strawberries Still a W.I.P, but that's part of the fun. I do want to try the Inawera one though. Maybe a bastard mix of the 3 will do it? make strawberry finally stand up ta feck! lol

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Yeah I've heard good things about the Inawera ones too. I think FA go for the as natural as possible route where something like strawberry needs a certain maybe artificial kick so that it doesn't get lost in a mix with other strong flavours.

I've been tasting FA's Nonna's cake and it's very nice. How do they get your mouth to feel like it's full of sponge cake? it feels like texture as much as flavour, very sweet too but it suits what it's trying to be.

Thecageyone

TFA Strawberry ripe and Capella sweet strawberry are the only 2 I've tried yet so far. I've heard good things about Inawera Shisha strawberry though. The one you have is also known as red touch right? If so, it's also supposed to be very good? I find the same though, strawberry can easily get eaten up and pushed aside by so many other flavourings. It's a bit of a weed innit?

I love cucumber, not sure how I feel about it in a vape though, I'm also intrigued

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Still discovering how to work with strawberry as all I have is FA which while nice seems weak. I have a juice that's been sitting a while 6 or 7 weeks maybe and the strawberry is coming through a bit better, seems to benefit from a long steep and a bit of raspberry too.

I really want to play a lot more with less sweet mixes (can you tell LOL).

Seen this posted elsewhere and I'm intrigued!

3% FA Cucumber
1% FA Black Pepper

Thecageyone

I made up a strawberry lemonade using his tips as a base, it seems to work pretty good. lemon Sicily is good stuff, I was afraid it might be like the lemon some juice companies use for their cereals. Which often has a disinfectant after taste

Lemon Sicily has none of that, it's like the lemon coolly you'd get on deserts. I used a touch of lime tahity to spruce it up a little and use both ripe and sweet strawberry, I think they could be upped a little though

http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/581324/LemonHead

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Citrus flavours are a pain in the ass to work with due to fading. FA lemon and lime are lovely but I always seem to be topping them up in a mix.

I find some of HIC's mixes way to sweet but most are pretty decent.

Thecageyone

Best thing to do ... is make up some at 5% also, see which you prefer.

If you're making a solo butterscotch, then you clearly like the taste right? 10% solo is nothing, I think any less it'll be too watered down and lost in your mix. But I do like strong flavour. I agree sometimes adding more doesn't help, but I also find that not adding enough means you may as well not include it.

General consensus on Hic's notes are to double, or even triple his % at times. I've asked him on VRU forum about Lime tahity and lemon Sicily, I took his advice and upped the %, it worked out pretty good. So I don't simply dismiss his suggestions, but that is all they are.

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Sure sure sure.... it's all very subjective 'n all.

I do find that the more concentrate used the more likely I get burnout. Also flavour sensation tends to build in the palette the more consumed. Same holds true with food and drink.

A lot of flavours have a certain point where adding more does nothing, there is no increase in flavour it just maxs out and adding more is just a waste.

Thecageyone

Not at all, HIC's notes might be bang on for flavour, but you're talking a guy who does like 7% total mixes

And those notes above are for using it more as a complimentary flavour. Not all FA, I'm finding, are mad strong. And remember, solo, it's being watered down by a lot of VG

Look through the general notes on e-lr. http://e-liquid-recipes.com/flavor/240

I'm tasting my mix here, which has 4.5% FA butterscotch in there, and it's yum

http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/584314/Butter+nonsense

Sometimes, just follow your own instinct

j26m

Oops

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Blimey 10% is huge for a FlavourArt concentrate!

Some notes on FA Butterscotch:

Stronger, sharper, richer, and sweeter than FA Caramel, like butterscotch ice-cream
topping. For bold caramel flavor in a recipe, Butterscotch stands out more distinctly than
FA Caramel. Where caramel blends in; Butterscotch pops. 2% Butterscotch + 1% FA
Brandy makes a Buttershots butterscotch schnapps flavor, good as-is or in cocktail-type
vapes. When combined with nut flavors or Coconut, some very rich, buttery notes can
develop over time. The higher quality your nic, and the more VG in your mix, the
smoother Butterscotch will taste.

j26m

Made a 10ml tester at 10%. We'll see how that goes.

Thecageyone

Don't just take my word though! Look up some notes on the flavour maybe if you're unsure. I'm going on my own few brief testers, FA butterscotch is new to me too

j26m

Cheers.

Thecageyone

I'm doing a mix right now using FA butterscotch, it's the prominent flavour and I'm going 4.5% in a 14% total mixture .... I love butterscotch

I have used TFA's at 7-8% in mixes with nice results.

As a single flavour mix, I would go 10% - 12% maybe. And if you wanted a more toffee-like note to it, 1% TFA caramel (original)

j26m

How much FA Butterscotch as a single flavour mix? I know it's stronger than TPA.
Also, is it shake & vape?

Shinobollo

Thecageyone wrote: »

mentality-wise, definitely

And may it always be so

Thecageyone

Shinobollo wrote: »

Child :-p

mentality-wise, definitely

Shinobollo

Thecageyone wrote: »

Oh don't, I had that for real recently, just turned that old 40 and was dreaming of dying for weeks

Child :-p

Thecageyone

Oh don't, I had that for real recently, just turned that old 40 and was dreaming of dying for weeks

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Thecageyone wrote: »

Now ... what to do with Joy ....

Having an existential moment... :pac: