Buford T Justice wrote: » Aren't you the one who knows the usernames?
armabelle wrote: » Are you the guy who sent me PM's for web development work?
yes there wrote: » Am I the only who thinks this guy is trolling???
Graham wrote: » Outside of a custom design/layout, custom elements could include: Booking/appoinment facilities (e.g. hairdresser, vet, restaurant). Ticketing (clubs, conference organisers etc). Coupon facilities. Mailing-list building/newsletters Online commerce/store Messaging Customer support
armabelle wrote: » Think I understand. Could you give me an example of "custom elements" please Graham?
Graham wrote: » I wouldn't say there's no way, it's just less likely. Without knowing what custom elements you're specifically looking for it's next to impossible to say. I'm guessing you have some requirements that you think can only be met with a custom solution. If you can share them you might get some more specific suggestions.
armabelle wrote: » I mean for under a thousand euro, ther is no way to go custom right?
Graham wrote: » You have an original design that is specific to you, your requirements, your target market and your future plans. Only you can decide which is appropriate for your business. If you're a one-man plumbing operation, a custom site is probably going to be OTT for your needs. If you're a reasonable sized recruitment agency you'll probably be looking for something more than a basic web presence or vanilla CMS.
Graham wrote: » Not if it wasn't taught at your school, no not particularly. Nothing to stop you learning though.
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SpaceCowb0y wrote: » You have found me!! How can i help
armabelle wrote: » But I am a school leaver and don't have HTML and CSS skills should I feel bad?
armabelle wrote: » Ok so if site X that comes from a template costs hundreds and site Y that is custom costs thousands. What is the benifit of the Y site given the fact that somebody is paying so much more? Is it just that you have an original design?
Graham wrote: » The analogy is quite fair in this day and age where a large percentage of recent school/college leavers have sufficient html/css skills to tweak a template.
awec wrote: » As an aside, I think I'd have an easier time putting my trust in someone hired off boards if they have a decent post count than someone random off one of those freelance sites.
Graham wrote: » You do have to learn but like anything there are varying degrees of learning/knowledge. A few days/weeks learning would should be sufficient to amend a template, maybe more to amend a template well, to build one from scratch would take several years worth of experience.
armabelle wrote: » Oh Ok, I thought HTML and CSS was something you have to really learn.
armabelle wrote: » Your analogy seems rather unfair in the sense that I can assemble IKEA furniture and shouldn't need to pay anybody. I cannot customize a template as I don't have those skills. I would prefer to have a custom website with all those functions but how much would that cost compared to using a "theme" if I wanted a CMS website? If the price is similar then I could consider it. Do you only offer custom-built websites then?
armabelle wrote: » Do you only offer custom-built websites then?
Graham wrote: » I did change the terminology but you'd obviously quoted my post at that point. It's not a particularly skilled task usually only requiring a rudimentary understanding of html/css.
armabelle wrote: » Why do you refer to such a person as a "monkey"?
Graham wrote: » A decent price for a custom design is going to be very different to a decent price for replacing content in a template or tweaking an off the shelf WordPress/Drupal theme. To use a non web-development metaphor, if you're looking for a carpenter to make a coffee table a decent price for assembling an Ikea flat pack is going to be very different to a decent price for a custom piece made by a skilled cabinet maker. Sounds like you're looking for a basic html/css monkey and a theme rather than a web developer. There's millions of them around, you shouldn't have a problem finding someone locally that can help you and the small ads for part-timers may well be a good source.
armabelle wrote: » Oh ok but wouldn't most web designers work off templates if they were offering all the functionality of a CMS for a decent price?
armabelle wrote: » Also, I tried to make a wordpress template look like I wanted once and had very little luck. I could change the logo and text in some parts but for most things I wanted to do I had to hire a developer to help me as they required CSS knowledge and HTML.
Graham wrote: » The vast majority of classified-ad web designers would be template re-hashers. They buy an existing design from one of the website template providers (e.g. Themeforest), replace the dummy content/photos with yours and charge you a few hundred euro for the job. There's nothing inherently wrong with that approach, it should mean you get a higher standard of website at the really budget end of the market. On the downside your design won't be unique and it's still quite easy for an amateur to take a well designed template and make a complete balls of it as they insert your content. Your site may also be constrained to some degree by the original number of pages/navigation etc of the template you're using.
