FanadMan wrote: » Not this again! I love my meat, I hunt, I fish but I get really sick of these bloody threads. Vegans are different to me same as Protestants are different to me. We believe different things but I don't hate them for that - just the exact same as Vegans.
Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: » Didn't that McGregor guy lose to some vegan few weeks back ?
Alf Stewart. wrote: » I was sat down in a pub beer garden one fine sunny afternoon, enjoying a beer and a nice lump of steak, with chips, and all the trimmings. Was minding me own business, taking in the sights and sounds, enjoying me beer and me burger. Bothering no one. Minding me own business. Next thing I know, this big lard ass, eco warrior plonks her self down on the table next to mine with her dreaded, crusty looking (presumably) boyfriend. The two of em with massive plates of fresh green salad. The two of em start giving me evils and a look of disgust across from their table, and I'm at a loss as to what the fcuk I've done wrong, or to offend them..... Next thing I cop it, the female of the species is wearing a t-shirt that proudly exclaimed she was a vegan. She watched me cut into a nice juicy piece of steak, raise it to me mouth, and just before I bit into it asked me if I knew how that animal I was chewing on died? I just looked at her and her equally overweight soap dodging mate tuckin into their fresh mountains of salad and said yeah you probably starved it to death you fat bastard.
just as most of us consider it wrong for anyone to molest a child or to throw rocks at a puppy, vegans consider it wrong for anyone to consume cheese derived from a cow’s breast milk or to consume a slaughtered chicken’s flesh. Stated differently, vegans, like members of religious faiths more generally, are moral realists. We believe that some actions—such as participating in violence against defenseless human and nonhuman animals—are wrong. That is one of the reasons that many ethical vegans serve our houseguests only vegan food in our homes, regardless of what the guests might ordinarily select when eating by themselves...
"Meat is Murder” is a good song, and has long been used as a campaigning slogan – whether it would be translated verbatim into “vegan law” is another matter. Vegans would equally claim dairy and eggs involve murder too, of course. “Cheese is Murder” seems less catchy to be sure! I would hope that the force of argument will win the day with most people but you are right to imply that the force of law will have to be employed to control the behaviour of those who insist on their “right” to kill other animals. This is sure to be a goldmine for lawyers since vegan agriculture itself will probably never be without elements of animal harm. There is a deep irony in the sense that many will regard the law as a form of violence, meaning that a form of violence will be employed to stop or reduce violence.
Cathy.C wrote: » That's what the cow was thinking before someone came and took her on a drive to the slaughter house I'd imagine.
2011 wrote: » I love my meat, bread and dairy. In fact I have enjoyed them far too much. I did the a 4 week Happy Heart Course. This included lectures, advice and cookery lessons. At the start of the course they measured my cholesterol, it was 6.53. Then the weighed me, I was too heavy At the end of the course my cholesterol was 4.89 and I had lost 7kg (but still too heavy). During the 4 weeks I could eat as much as I wanted, but it was a "plant based" diet. But no meat, no dairy and only some breads. That was 2 months ago. I have been on that diet since. I sleep better, my skin is clearer, I had more energy and I feel better.
Our Happy Heart classroom course costs €199.
gozunda wrote: » A commercial venture run by Twin chefs David and Stephen Flynn From the website etc
kneemos wrote: » Don't think animals have a concept of death.
LexieOnRale wrote: » That's nonsense. Cows get very agitated when they're being moved around. They're scared of new places, noisey places and people they don't know. I haven't ate beef in about 15 years, probably longer, because I grew up on a farm and I know cows are much more intelligent and aware than they're given credit for
LexieOnRale wrote: » You don't know that though. If a stranger walks into a shed, and tries catch/pet a cow, the cow will be nervous and scared, and will run away. Why would anything be scared and try run away? Because they have immediate fear. They're capable of plenty of emotions. Jealousy, and love and fear.
Kev W wrote: » Did they respond along the lines of "hang on, that doesn't make sense"? Because that was my first thought.
Shenshen wrote: » Another one? How many "I wish vegans would just leave me alone" threads have we had in the last couple of weeks now? 4? I can't help thinking there must some SERIOUSLY active vegans out there to manage to put that many people under enough pressure, even making them go and complain on the internet. After all, only about 4% of the population here are vegetarian, there aren't even any numbers on how many of them are fully vegan.
MadDog76 wrote: » What's the connection .......... they both love oranges?
