shmeee wrote: » Paddy has just removed the market
Lasagna Diarra wrote: » It's some U17 tournament
seanhynes wrote: » What's this in a friendly did they not play a few days ago??
Yes, you read that right. If either team is winning in the last minute, it will actually be preferable for them to score an own goal (or as many own goals as would be necessary for a draw). How is this possible? This is going to be a long and complicated explanation but the short version is that UEFA’s rules are seemingly illogical. Results so far France 1-0 Greece Austria 0-0 Iceland France 1-0 Iceland Greece 0-0 Austria Current Standings Pos Team P W D L F A GD Pts Status 1st France 2 2 0 0 2 0 2 6 Qualified 2nd Austria 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 2 TBD =3rd Greece 2 0 1 1 0 1 -1 1 TBD =3rd Iceland 2 0 1 1 0 1 -1 1 TBD Remaining Fixtures Today, 15:00 CET: Austria vs France Today, 15:00 CET: Iceland vs Greece What happens if Austria beat France? Austria will qualify for the finals and everything else I’m going to write here will become irrelevant. Ranking of 2nd-Placed Teams Only the 7 highest ranked 2nd-placed teams qualify for the finals, here are the current standings: Pos Team P W D L F A GD Pts Status 1st England 2 1 1 0 4 2 2 4 Qualified 2nd Netherlands 2 1 0 1 2 1 1 3 Qualified 3rd Bosnia 2 1 0 1 2 2 0 3 Qualified 4th Sweden 2 1 0 1 1 2 -1 3 Qualified 5th Scotland 2 1 0 1 2 4 -2 3 Qualified 6th Spain 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 2 Qualified 7th Austria 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 TBD 8th Poland 2 0 1 1 1 2 -1 1 TBD The key rule to note here is that results against the teams that finished 4th in their group don’t count (I have no idea why) - only results against the teams that finished 1st and 3rd do. This effectively means that if either Greece or Iceland win today they won’t earn any points (or goal difference), since the team they beat will finish 4th in their group. Each group contained an equal number of teams so there seems to be no reason why results against the 4th-placed teams need to be excluded, unlike (senior) Euro 2016 qualifying where Group I contained one less team than the other eight groups and therefore results against the 6th-placed teams were excluded. This is how the relevant final rankings would look if either Greece or Iceland win and Austria fail to win: Pos Team P W D L F A GD Pts Status 7th Poland 2 0 1 1 1 2 -1 1 Qualified 8th Greece/Iceland 2 0 1 1 0 1 -1 1 Eliminated Greece/Iceland would be eliminated on goals scored What happens if Austria draw with France? Greece & Iceland will still both be eliminated even though a win will be enough for one of them to overtake Austria and finish 2nd (since that team would finish bottom of the ranking of 2nd-placed teams, as shown above). What happens if Austria lose to France? A 0-0 draw between Greece & Iceland will still see both eliminated even if one of them ultimately finishes 2nd in the group, due to Poland’s superior goals scored in the ranking of the 2nd-placed teams. A score draw between Greece & Iceland will, however, give one of those two sides a chance of finishing 2nd in the group and overtaking Poland. First of all, Austria will finish bottom of the group due to the head-to-head results between the three sides in contention for 2nd place: Pos Team P W D L F A GD Pts =2nd Greece 2 0 2 0 ≥1 ≥1 0 2 =2nd Iceland 2 0 2 0 ≥1 ≥1 0 2 4th Austria 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 2 If this scenario occurs, Greece & Iceland will be completely inseparable and a penalty shoot-out will be used to decide which team finishes 2nd in the group. If Greece vs Iceland finishes 1-1, the winner of the subsequent penalty shoot-out will then have an identical record to Poland in the ranking of 2nd-placed teams: Pos Team P W D L F A GD Pts =7th Greece/Iceland 2 0 1 1 1 2 -1 1 =7th Poland 2 0 1 1 1 2 -1 1 This means that 7th place in the ranking of the 2nd-placed teams will be determined by disciplinary record in the relevant matches (a yellow card = 1 point, a red card = 3 points and the team with the fewest total points qualifies). If the teams in question are still inseparable, lots will then be drawn to separate them and determine which team takes the final spot at U17 Euro 2016. If Greece vs Iceland finishes 2-2, 3-3, 4-4, 5-5 etc, the winner of the penalty shoot-out will qualify ahead of Poland on goals scored: Pos Team P W D L F A GD Pts Status 7th Greece/Iceland 2 0 1 1 ≥2 ≥3 -1 1 Qualified 8th Poland 2 0 1 1 1 2 -1 1 Eliminated In Summary If - and only if - France beat Austria, either Greece or Iceland could qualify for U17 Euro 2016. Assuming France do win, it would be in the best interests of both Greece & Iceland to play out a 2-2 draw against each other instead of trying to win, so that they can then face each other in a penalty shoot-out for the final spot at U17 Euro 2016. The rule which has caused this situation is completely ridiculous (as far as I can tell), but the situation itself is fascinating and also pretty funny. Greece & Iceland have to work together for 80 minutes (they have shorter matches at this level) to give themselves a chance of competing against each other for qualification in a penalty shoot-out. It’s like a two-man breakaway in the Tour de France where the two leaders are from different teams.
Dio On The Doubles wrote: » Gone for Dani Alves to be booked @2.5 Also Ronaldo to be booked @3.2 Both on Betfair Carvajal is very likely to be booked and is available at 1.90 in some bookies. Much prefer the prices on Ronaldo and Mr Alves though. They are no strangers to bookings in El Classico too.
Mr. Green wrote: » Barcelona -vs- Real Madrid, Under 3.5 @ 2.080 soon the Champions League
Lasagna Diarra wrote: » Pescara @ 1.53 5 losses in a row and a must-win game to get back into top 8 (ie the promotion play offs)Real Madrid +1.5 @ 1.55 need to atone for the 4-0 loss at the Bernabeu last time around plus Barcelona have won the past 2 clasicos, neither Barca nor Madrid have won 3 clasicos in a row since 2011
mailburner wrote: » We'll all be el broke after this sh1te Wish I was on some sort of card bet
JaMarcusHustle wrote: Going for the following accumulator today: Burnley/Brighton over 1.5 Liverpool/Spurs over 1.5 Arsenal/Watford over 1.5 Bayern HT/FT Suarez & Barcelona Juventus €20 returns a few cents short of €200
mailburner wrote: » Bit of value on these surely, took both, smaller on score and assist (suarez 17/10+5/1) Messi anytime assist 17/10 Messi to score and assist 4/1 Tiny bet on Ronnie to score and assist at 12s, cant ignore that purely for value added Ronnie assist also at 4s...doubt he's ever been that big to assist 888
LuckyDude12 wrote: » Valencia DC Liverpool Over 5.5 Corners2.67
shmeee wrote: » Didn't get to see much today, Liverpool games with 18 corners already. What was the line? Anyone get on? Liverpool with 12, some going.
seanhynes wrote: » 3.5 landed in all EPL games ,at ht I chose one game for a MG from the league the Sunderland match, pulis is one horrible man for stifling teams and getting draws away
