liam7831 wrote: » I can see a lot of new entrants ending up in money trouble with the banks in the next 12 to 18 months as i presume there loans are based on a milk price of 34 or 35 cent. Will be a long time before we see those figures again id say.
freedominacup wrote: » I can see a certain amount of begrudery in that post. I know four new entrants. Three in my discussion group and one my next door neighbour. All gone from 40 odd a couple of years ago to 160 or so this year. All suckler converts. All doing a good job. I'd have no fear for any of them.
howdee wrote: » Have 6 ton of the bloody stuff to use up tho first. Iv upped the meal to 6kg this morning, and i might up it to 7 in a day or two.
blackdog1 wrote: » I'm tmr so no problem. I'm caught between feeding that mix or feeding 3 kg of crimp wheat instead and throwing some straw in.Protein for the month was 3.49 and 4.3 fat so I'm anxious to hold that.
freedominacup wrote: » Distillers is part of your problem also. It was discussed on the grass right thread during the week. Basically the wrong type of protein for grass. Too much hulls in it atm also.15% soya, 15% hulls or pulp, 30 each of maize and barley.5 molasses and mins plus cal mag until the jump is passed. You could get away without any pr source once things start to rock grass wise.
freedominacup wrote: » I've found that type of mix to be a bit unpalatable. Through a tmr buffer probably be fine on it's own . I'd be watching to make sure they were all getting enough if fed on its own.
blackdog1 wrote: » Bloody whole crop is finished Sunday..things are gonna get interesting now...Gonna give them 3kg of 70% maize 30% soya hulls. Any thoughts or would I be better off buying a load of maize silage?.
whelan2 wrote: » Someone posted the other day that Bergin is saying a Glanbia price in the low twenties. Is that a reality or Glanbias bottom of the table price?
mahoney_j wrote: » 26/27
whelan2 wrote: » What milk price are banks basing loans on now?
mahoney_j wrote: » Tbf most new entrants will be fine as few would of been crazy enough to budget at a milk price of 34/35 cent ..a lot would of had to spend big money to convert alright but some would have substantial sfp and beef /sucklers to offload to offset some of cost .
freedominacup wrote: » Phone hopping. Someone buying grain telling you not to miss the boat on committing to a low price. I know f'all about futures markets or hedging but that sounds suss to me.
howdee wrote: » I agree 72 aint good enough i had 82dmd bales for the milkers but didn't have enough. Meal is a 3 way mix of 40% barley 30%hulls and 30%distillers grains. Protein of that is around 14. Most years I would be at grass ft at this stage with only enough meal to cover calmag. Yield is 23l with 30% heifers.
liam7831 wrote: » Ok your obviously an expert on what everybody was thinking so we will leave it at that
mahoney_j wrote: » 2.9 p signals lack of energy in diet .72 Dmd silage ain't good enough for milkers now either .needs to be 78/80 with me over 12 .energy in diet is now key a maize /barley /hulls /soya mix is what id recommend balanced at 16% p.grass is scarce also which is a big problem all over now and will get worse over next 2 weeks with little improvement forecast .
mahoney_j wrote: » No one in there right mind though milk was going to stay at that level .isnt a suckler man that converted to dairying a new entrant ???
liam7831 wrote: » I doubt they forecasted a drop of 10c a litre. Im talking about new entrants to dairy not suckler farmers
howdee wrote: » Milk protein has hit 2.9 here.iv never seen it under 3 before for this time of year. Cows are on 5kg meal, 4 kg of grass and the balance in silage. Silage is 72 dmd. I cant give any more grass so was thinking of upping the meal to 6 or 7kgs. Any thoughts.? Was also thinking of putting in 2kg of beet pulp nuts.
Dawggone wrote: » You're not alone. The phone was hopping yesterday urging me to contract new season wheat at €134...
jaymla627 wrote: » The only thing suffering here at the minute is my overdraft trying to keep meal into them haha, their is some serious bills been ran up at the minute for feed that nobody was expecting/accounting for and it's just going to be exacerbated with milk price on the floor. I see Jim Bergin of Glanbia was forecasting low low 20's for the rest of the year with cuts immeniant at supplier meetings, if it does come to pass that 2-3 cent gets shaved of march/april/may milk can see it having a devasting effect on dairy farmers confidence going forward for the rest of the year when you take in the spring we are trying to endure
