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Irish men rank first in Europe for BMI

Irish Stones

According to this page

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/ireland-s-obesity-rate-among-world-s-worst-1.2594266

Irish men rank first in Europe for BMI, Irish women rank third.
It's interesting to see that 20% of the obese people in the world live in six English-speaking countries.
Do you think it is linked to a genetic issue, or a cultural (and diets) tradition?

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AtomicHorror

Irish Stones wrote: »

According to this page

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/ireland-s-obesity-rate-among-world-s-worst-1.2594266

Irish men rank first in Europe for BMI, Irish women rank third.
It's interesting to see that 20% of the obese people in the world live in six English-speaking countries.
Do you think it is linked to a genetic issue, or a cultural (and diets) tradition?

Contrast this to the Journal.ie headline: Irish women set to become the second most obese in Europe

Stay classy, Journal

http://www.thejournal.ie/obesity-ireland-women-2691969-Apr2016/

Bongalongherb

That's another April fools joke I'd say.

Sonics2k

Bongalongherb wrote: »

That's another April fools joke I'd say.

The sad thing is that it's not. This is all true.

MightyMandarin

Irish Stones wrote: »

Do you think it is linked to a genetic issue, or a cultural (and diets) tradition?

It's 100% down to our traditonal diet and lack of people playing sport past their 20's and 30's.

It's somewhat down to our societal habits but at the end of the day people are in control of themselves and should stop eating their way to an early death.

Ken.

MightyMandarin wrote: »

It's 100% down to our traditonal diet and lack of people playing sport past their 20's and 30's.

It's somewhat down to our societal habits but at the end of the day people are in control of themselves and should stop eating their way to an early death.

I'd rather die fat and happy rather than skinny and miserable.

GLaDOS

We're no. 1!

Bongalongherb

This thread is making me hungry.

irelandrover

ken wrote: »

I'd rather die fat and happy rather than skinny and miserable.

If only it were possible to be skinny and happy.

murpho999

ken wrote: »

I'd rather die fat and happy rather than skinny and miserable.

Why are normal weight people called 'skinny' and what makes you think they are miserable?

I think it's safe to say that the vast majority of fat people are deep down unhappy but just won't admit it.

Coffee Fulled Runner

Don't just accept this as your faith.18 months ago I weighed nearly 100kg. Through hard work and a good diet I'm now 75kg. It can be done lads and you will feel so much better physically and mentally.

SEPT 23 1989

It makes up for our tumble down the European drinking league table

FlowerPower1

ken wrote: »

I'd rather die fat and happy rather than skinny and miserable.

I think I'd rather be healthy and content.

Ken.

I was speaking of myself. I wasn't casting aspersions on anyone else.

Wibbs

i'd reckon genetics have a fair bit to do with it, but diet on top of that is a huge influence. Irish people tend towards being "solidly built" and broader in a very general way(ditto for our island neighbours). If you go further south in Europe, say Italy, yes you will most certainly see stocky men and women, but you also see more delicately built smaller men and women too. As a mate of mine commented when clothes shopping in that neck of the woods; "jesus the clothes sizes here make me feel like a heifer" and she most certainly isn't. Can depend on age too. I remember reading a Europe wide women's clothes sizes survey and your average Spaniard at 20 was a good few sizes smaller than your average English woman, but by 40 they were the same size.

BlibBlab

ken wrote: »

I'd rather die fat and happy rather than skinny and miserable.

This is unlikely though, bigger chance fat people will live out their last days barely functional.

munster87

I've always been on a slippery slope when it comes to weight. I'm a little over 180 lbs now whereas 29 years ago I was around 8 lbs. I'm going to start a carb free diet soon though to get me back to my former figure

jobbridge4life

BlibBlab wrote: »

This is unlikely though, bigger chance fat people will live out their last days barely functional.

Calm down Gwyneth. They're fat not suffering from some devastating disease.

Bongalongherb

Coffee Fulled Runner wrote: »

Don't just accept this as your faith.18 months again I weighed nearly 100kg. Through hard work and a good diet I'm now 75kg. It can be done lads and you will feel so much better physically and mentally.

I'm not fat, just broad-shouldered with arms like tree-trunks but the belly is a bit out and my breasts have sagged slightly, a simple couple of weeks to tone up the breasts and I'm happy. I used to be a very skinny guy but I always felt more comfortable after eating 20 chickenballs putting a bit of weight on.

munster87

Heard people chatting about Nutella lip balm yesterday.

[Deleted User]

Irish Stones wrote: »

Irish men rank first in Europe for BMI

I love the RTÉ interpretation, which was clearly written by a regular contributor to After Hours, of this story:

Irish women second most obese in Europe by 2025

Kev_2012

BMI is a load of bollocks.

I'm 6 foot and around 185/190 lbs and according to BMI I am over weight.

I play rugby and soccer all the time and go to the gym etc.

BMI is probably only useful if you don't exercise.

HOWEVER, a lot Irish people have f*cking diabolical diets and attitudes to exercise.

In Limerick for example, if you want to go get some take out food, about 75% of places are kebab/pizza places! There is 6 of these alone in the Cornmarket!

We need more education earlier on in life about diet and exercise and make it fun or enjoyable for them. (Don't make a kid play soccer if they prefer running or something, give them options!)

In Canada, I noticed that people would say, for example : "Oh you really gotta try sushi, it's the best!".

Here, if you get a pizza with anything other than meat on it, then you are a weirdo. (Don't get me wrong, I used to do that too :P)

I find that Irish people make fun of others who don't eat the same as or drink the same as them. That's a massive issue, and it all starts with learning from a young age.

Wibbs

Bongalongherb wrote: »

my breasts have sagged slightly

Fair enough.

I used to be a very skinny guy

This is just me mid you, but my take would be if you're a bloke with bewbs large enough to notice they're saggy, to the ryvita and gymnasium you should take.

biko

"Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels"

Irishcrx

ken wrote: »

I'd rather die fat and happy rather than skinny and miserable.

Haha I'd rather be lean and fit and live on past when your fat and dead tbh.

SarahMollie

We've come from being the skinniest in western Europe (granted, half starved) to where we are today.

I wonder if there is an element of the Irish psyche that causes us to want to take advantage in times of plenty, given where we've come from?

Also, there is far too much convenience in our diets these days. If you go to other countries, you don't see the same proliferation of Spar/Centra/Londis type stores on every corner, making that casual bar of chocolate/can of coke/packet of crisps ever so easy to devour without thinking while waiting for the bus.

Also, far too many people lack fundamental cooking skills. I say a modernized version of home economics should be taught to all 2nd level students, and not only available in girls schools as is often the case.

Did anyone see the programme on chicken production on RTE the other evening? It had a particular focus on the Irish Classic, the Chicken Fillet Roll, and how it can be made so cheaply. Turns out the chicken "fillet" is made with reconstituted chicken innards, and then bulked out with filling agents and flavorings, and that a bread roll contains as much as 4/5 slices of bread. Disgusting.

FlowerPower1

I don't it's one thing, it's a huge range of things that is making us fatter and fatter. Both parents working, less home cooking, more disposable income, fast food and takeaways everywhere, too much salt/sugar/processed food in our diets, every celebration/special occasion is now an excuse to gorge ourselves on copious amounts of junk. The list does on. I do think we need to cop on a bit as a nation. I really despair when I read that 1 in 4 toddlers are now obese. That's just pure abuse to me.

FizzleSticks

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BlibBlab

Wibbs wrote: »

i'd reckon genetics have a fair bit to do with it, but diet on top of that is a huge influence. Irish people tend towards being "solidly built" and broader in a very general way(ditto for our island neighbours). If you go further south in Europe, say Italy, yes you will most certainly see stocky men and women, but you also see more delicately built smaller men and women too. As a mate of mine commented when clothes shopping in that neck of the woods; "jesus the clothes sizes here make me feel like a heifer" and she most certainly isn't. Can depend on age too. I remember reading a Europe wide women's clothes sizes survey and your average Spaniard at 20 was a good few sizes smaller than your average English woman, but by 40 they were the same size.

Diet is the main one for me. Look at the affects on immigrants to the US. Our diets are full of processed food and sugar and less and less people are cooking at home. Look at that RTE program the other night which said a chicken roll contained 1000 calories, and that's just for lunch. Combine that with people moving far less than they used to and you get to where we are. I don't understand why there isn't a massive push to reverse the trend

Bongalongherb

Wibbs wrote: »

Fair enough.

This is just me mid you, but my take would be if you're a bloke with bewbs large enough to notice they're saggy, to the ryvita and gymnasium you should take.

Not at all, they're not drooping too much but they are not as hard and stiff like they used to be. I have the weights here in the house so it's just a matter of getting back into them to firm the chest up again. I think I'll do that starting monday, should only take 4 weeks to get them pecked again.

There again, maybe 4 months.

Esel

munster87 wrote: »

I've always been on a slippery slope when it comes to weight. I'm a little over 180 lbs now whereas 29 years ago I was around 8 lbs. I'm going to start a carb free diet soon though to get me back to my former figure

8 lbs is a good weight for a baby.