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Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

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http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/shots-fired-at-boxing-weighin-in-dublin-hotel-34427111.html

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Supernintento Chalmers

Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »

I think his point is that the Sunday world will suddenly have a few pages in the next few issues with a breaking story of the Gilligan-Hutch-Kinahan feud!

Thank you

[Deleted User]

pablo128 wrote: »

LOL. That's not a Sunday World link!

I think his point is that the Sunday world will suddenly have a few pages in the next few issues with a breaking story of the Gilligan-Hutch-Kinahan feud!

pablo128

Supernintento Chalmers wrote: »

Just when the Sunday World was running out of ideas with the Hutch Kinehan feud.

John Gilligan's 'surprise' return to the capital - despite being target of criminal gangs
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/john-gilligans-surprise-return-to-the-capital-despite-being-target-of-criminal-gangs-34589957.html

LOL. That's not a Sunday World link!

Supernintento Chalmers

Just when the Sunday World was running out of ideas with the Hutch Kinehan feud.

John Gilligan's 'surprise' return to the capital - despite being target of criminal gangs
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/john-gilligans-surprise-return-to-the-capital-despite-being-target-of-criminal-gangs-34589957.html

stoplooklisten

Cathy.C wrote: »

I see the Sunday World has criticized the recent Twitter po...

Thaks Cathy. I read that article before and when I went back to qoute it, it was gone! Yes, twitter is to blame if you believe them! I like your version.

[Deleted User]

Nicola isn't a tallanted writer!

What a load of ****e!
Why don't you drop your knickers for him luv!

Cathy.C

I see the Sunday World has criticized the recent Twitter postings suggesting that they may have been fueling the issue between the two sides. They even had the gall to contact one of the directors of Twitter at their private residence in Dublin about it. Can these so called journalists get any less self aware one wonders.

Sunday World / Nicola Tallant not so long ago published an article entitled "Criminal veteran Duggan says Gilligan has angered Gangland". In that article she gave the impression that Duggan was happy to go on the record about Gilligan being hated in gangland, how everyone wanted him dead and how he since he came out of prison he had been going around demanding money from people. They claimed Duggan had told them Sean Fitzgerald had contacted him on behalf of Gilligan and put the squeeze on him also and that he won't be doing it twice.

Now I don't know if Duggan went on the record about Gilligan and Fitzgerald or not, he may very well have done, but I do know this, in some of the quotes that they ascribed to Duggan in the article they needed to add Gilligan and Fitzgerald's names to the quotes themselves so as the reader would know precisely who Duggan was referring to. Which might not mean anything nefarious as it is quite possible of course that Duggan did indeed refer to the two men by name in those conversations with Nicola that day, just not at the specific time which he was making those specific quotes, but it seems quite odd to me that someone would do that; speak in a surreptitious manner about someone one minute and then be happy to openly name that person the next.

Seems to me that the way Duggan spoke that day was more indicative of someone who was speaking off the record. Someone perhaps that was happy to speak to journalist as an unnamed source but not happy if they were named as such, let alone have an article published on them the following Sunday giving the distinct impression that they had decided to go public, tell tales and name names. It was also revealed in that article that Duggan was staying at a house in Meath. Nicola seems to want to mourn the passing of old school gangster ethics in her latest piece but after having read much of her previous articles I'd be more inclined to mourn the passing of old school journalist codes myself.

That article I reference by the way was pulled from the Sunday World website hours after Duggan was killed.

I still have it open in one of my tabs though

My name is URL

Gamebred wrote: »

http://www.sundayworld.com/news/crimedesk/the-old-gangland-code-dies-with-kingsize

If its not fabricating lies the sunday world is writing fairy stories about convicted gangsters never read such rubbish in all my life,sickening.

How anyone can read the Scumday World is beyond me

Absolute drivel

TheNap

I'd love a keeping up with the Kinahans reality show

SEPT 23 1989

Gamebred wrote: »

http://www.sundayworld.com/news/crimedesk/the-old-gangland-code-dies-with-kingsize

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that reads like a love letter

Gamebred

http://www.sundayworld.com/news/crimedesk/the-old-gangland-code-dies-with-kingsize

If its not fabricating lies the sunday world is writing fairy stories about convicted gangsters never read such rubbish in all my life,sickening.

DamienDarts

Well , was the monk at the funeral of Kingsize?

Synode

coniosumadre wrote: »

Saorsean had a new twitter account today but it's after being shutdown now too a while ago. He also has a facebook and webpage on the go now as well.

Can you post links. Can't find them

coniosumadre

Saorsean had a new twitter account today but it's after being shutdown now too a while ago. He also has a facebook and webpage on the go now as well.

Spanish Eyes

Ratoath and Ashbourne seem to be the emigration destinations for gangland figures from Finglas and Cabra. Straight down the road. Sorry Up.

magma69

It's interesting how little focus is placed on the location of the killings when they are in Dublin as opposed to Limerick. It's a gangland thing when in Dublin, it's a Limerick thing when in Limerick.

The flying mouse

Ally Dick wrote: »

Saorsean's Twitter account suspended

Witchie wrote: »

Not so Saor is Sean now.

Sunday world objected to it, wonder why that was ?? It certainly wasent because they have just got some sort of moral crime journalists,they have posted some complete crap over the years and dont start me on boy wonder williams.

I thought SS gave a good insight in why this was happening and important story's behind the scenes, as a previous poster said here, why is the media soft on the hutch side ?

Witchie

Not so Saor is Sean now.

Ally Dick

Saorsean's Twitter account suspended

stoplooklisten

Supernintento Chalmers wrote: »

"Staff and customers in the bar identified the masked men because they were wearing the exact same clothing they had worn during earlier visits."

Hit men who targeted Hutch are identified http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/hit-men-who-targeted-hutch-are-identified-34575130.html

He was in the bar when they came looking for him:eek:

Supernintento Chalmers

"Staff and customers in the bar identified the masked men because they were wearing the exact same clothing they had worn during earlier visits."

Hit men who targeted Hutch are identified http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/hit-men-who-targeted-hutch-are-identified-34575130.html

The flying mouse

Looks like ND wasent as innocent as some are trying to make out..

Duggan (58), one of the country's biggest tobacco smugglers, was suspected of helping to organised the logistics of the Regency attack by sourcing guns and a hit man from Northern Republican terrorists who were business associates in the smuggling rackets.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/hit-men-who-targeted-hutch-are-identified-34575130.html

The flying mouse

Reading today's SW ,some one has to do it, its saying they reported that seansaor twitter account to twitterr HQ, saying he alleged that ND was an informer etc etc and then he was murdered, SW also said the account was incitement to murder and detectives are investigating it and it was blocked ...I got lots of tweets from it this morning and in my opinion t was giving more news and facts about what was going on than the usual ,Paul Williams ,Nicola talent crap that is put out there.

pity we dont have real investigative crime journalists anymore,just ones with there own personal slant on news.

JackieBauer

Apparently, Mexican Muslims from the Southside of Guadalajara are to blame for the whole thing.

Watch this space.

Or not.

Simon2015

stoplooklisten wrote: »

Google throws up very interesting results for this search and some good threatening customer service :pac:

Could it be the same guy, how does he find the time to be manager and director of all them companies?

Anyone got a picture of the stabber alan donoghue, my google seems to be lacking

Maybe the companies are just fronts for something else.

STB.

humberklog wrote: »

Just on the other papers that reported Del as killing Donohue- it really does show up the shoddy nature of a lot of journalists.

The IBtimes, just who are they !

The article is lifted word for word from an Irish Times article that was published on 9/2. It was corrected on the 13/2. They made some amount of mistakes with victims mixed up with assailants.

SEPT 23 1989

I have had a few so take that into consideration

Media is very friendly to the Hutches Why?

Are some of the establishment making
Money from this?

Peter Anthony

humberklog wrote: »

Haven't a clue.

Just on the other papers that reported Del as killing Donohue- it really does show up the shoddy nature of a lot of journalists.

Journalism is dying as an industry. The rise of Social Media personalities and bloggers claiming to be journalists is a large part. Anybody with a Twitter or Facebook can claim to be a journalist. Ironically many of these people are probably as good if not better than people still employed writing shoddy artictles like those in question. But its dliuted the industry along with the rise of online news.

But also decline in standards has been rapid and nearly all papers now are tabloid clickbait. I once wanted to be a Journalist but its mostly all about who you know, and its slowly dying with the Independent closing down in Britain today the first of many I would assume. There is room for Investigative journalism but it is not big here. There was plenty of opportunity here with the amount of political, criminal , police financial scandals but we get very little. I guess its easier to sit in an office tweeting while copy and pasting rubbish...:)

stoplooklisten

Simon2015 wrote: »

Is this the same Alan Donohue who owns a mobile phone shop ?

Google throws up very interesting results for this search and some good threatening customer service :pac:

Could it be the same guy, how does he find the time to be manager and director of all them companies?

Anyone got a picture of the stabber alan donoghue, my google seems to be lacking

humberklog

Simon2015 wrote: »

Is this the same Alan Donohue who owns a mobile phone shop ?

Haven't a clue.

Just on the other papers that reported Del as killing Donohue- it really does show up the shoddy nature of a lot of journalists.