Mexcanelo wrote: » I would completely disregard the 2015 championship team as any indication of Roscommon's team for Championship 2016. Its a new management team, a new system. 2015 is in the past. Roscommon are looking to the future. I believe the vast majority of this league team will continue on into the championship. You list is all wrong. Conor Daly played against Donegal, He scored 3 points, he was one of Roscommon's best players until he was wrongfully black carded and replaced by Niall Kilroy Ian Kilbride has played in every other league game, and he has been brilliant in midfield. A minor injury kept him out of the Donegal game. He will be back for the Mayo game and beyond. Cathal Shine and Harney are on the bench, Ready to come in when the call comes, Everyone else on your list is either injured or simply don't make the cut. For me Roscommon strongest starting 15 is. 1.G. Claffey 2. S.McDermott 3. N.Collins 4. N.McInerney 5. C.Daly 6. D.Keenan 7. D.Murray 8. E.Smith 9. I.Kilbride 10. F.Gregg 11. D.Murtagh 12. C.Devaney 13. C.Connolly 14. S.Kilbride 15. C.Gregg
Syferus wrote: » A fit Cathal Shine and Kevin Higgins are our best midfield by a mile. Niall Carty will be starting somewhere if he can get his knee right imho. If Donie Shine was to get in the shape of his life and get a bit of luck with injuries I'd find it hard not to start him because he's one of our best kick-passers and is an excellent long range free-taker, something that you can see clearly we just don't have at the moment. The players missing aren't just panel players, pretty much every one of them bar Harney (whose best is yet to come) are long established championship starters. A lot of the leaders on the team are sitting in the stands right now so it's a big testament to the lads who've came in that have stepped up to that plate.
Syferus wrote: » A fit Cathal Shine and Kevin Higgins are our best midfield by a mile. Higgins is powerful and mobile (a natural CF but who has got so much time in the middle now he's became a good midfielder) while Shine is mobile for a big guy and offers a lot with his breaks and fielding. We are too small in the middle at the moment whatever about mobility. Niall Carty will be starting somewhere if he can get his knee right imho. If Donie Shine was to get in the shape of his life and get a bit of luck with injuries I'd find it hard not to start him because he's one of our best kick-passers and is an excellent long range free-taker, something that you can see clearly we just don't have at the moment. The fact he's also a gamer who has stepped up repeatedly in the championship can't be ignored either. The players missing aren't just panel players, pretty much every one of them bar Harney (whose best is yet to come) are long established championship starters. A lot of the leaders on the team are sitting in the stands right now so it's a big testament to the lads who've came in that have stepped up to that plate. What it makes nonsense of is the lazy analysis of us going for broke in the league, the management have been the most conservative in minding players of any I've seen in years. They have their eyes firmly placed on the bigger picture and later in the year.
Mexcanelo wrote: » I believe the vast majority of this league team will continue on into the championship.
your list is all wrong. Conor Daly played against Donegal, He scored 3 points, he was one of Roscommon's best players until he was wrongfully black carded and replaced by Niall Kilroy
Ian Kilbride has played in every other league game, and he has been brilliant in midfield. A minor injury kept him out of the Donegal game. He will be back for the Mayo game and beyond.
Cathal Shine and Harney are on the bench, Ready to come in when the call comes,
everyone else on your list is either injured or simply don't make the cut.
For me Roscommon strongest starting 15 is. 1.G. Claffey 2. S.McDermott 3. N.Collins 4. N.McInerney 5. C.Daly 6. D.Keenan 7. D.Murray 8. E.Smith 9. I.Kilbride 10. F.Gregg 11. D.Murtagh 12. C.Devaney 13. C.Connolly 14. S.Kilbride 15. C.Gregg
rossie1977 wrote: » The championship, Roscommon would need to potentially win 3 games just to reach a Connacht final. You or I cannot predict the Roscommon team should e.g they got hammered in league semi final or played poorly against new York or drew with leitrim I never mentioned Conor Daly. I mentioned Ronan Daly who is conor's younger brother though, current under 21 and started against fermanagh Fyi Niall Daly the older brother of Conor scored 3 points against Donegal. There are 3 Daly brothers on Roscommon panel and soon to be 4 as their youngest sibling is probably best player on minor team. He didn't play against Donegal and isn't picked to start vs mayo as enda smith replacing Ronan stack is only change Cathal shine wasn't on bench last game and is dealing with personal issues from reports Harney done his hamstring last month warming up before sigerson cup final, he only returned to action on saturday during u21 match with sligo so he hasn't been on the bench ready to come on.. O'malley isn't injured and started the games this year vs Monaghan and Kerry Donie shine and Kevin Higgins are back playing club games.not sure how you can say the guy who almost single handedly won us our last Connacht in 2010 and just turned 27 simply won't make cut in a small county like ours! So you leave off Ciaran murtagh the captain and top scorer in the league. you do know Ciaran and Diarmuid are not the same person. Diarmuid is the younger brother and nobody in the right mind would pick him half forward, he is speedy corner forward Fintan and cathal Cregg not Gregg and no.they are not related. I doubt cian connolly starts for Roscommon in championship with everyone fit. Diarmuid murtagh is a much better footballer imo and more suited for that spot.
TimRiggins wrote: » A forward line of F.Cregg - C.Murtagh - Dev D.Murtagh - Senan - C.Cregg is what i'd like to see come Championship time. Some serious firepower, any one of those players has the ability on any given day to kick 4 or 5 points from play. I didn't like Devaney at corner forward in previous campaigns but he's really impressed me with his quality kickpassing and work rate in this league campaign. As for Donie Shine, I really don't know if he'll ever be a starter again. He seems to have lost alot of confidence and I have worries that he isn't mobile enough to play Midfield in a high paced Championship game. Sending Mayo down on Sunday would possibly be one of the most satisfying moments in history.
Fr Tod Umptious wrote: » You'll need Monaghan to beat Kerry to guarantee that. So don't get too excited if Roscommon win until you know the result from Clones.
yabadabado wrote: » Monaghan game is a half hour earlier.
TimRiggins wrote: » A forward line of F.Cregg - C.Murtagh - Dev D.Murtagh - Senan - C.Cregg is what i'd like to see come Championship time. Some serious firepower, any one of those players has the ability on any given day to kick 4 or 5 points from play. I didn't like Devaney at corner forward in previous campaigns but he's really impressed me with his quality kickpassing and work rate in this league campaign.
As for Donie Shine, I really don't know if he'll ever be a starter again. He seems to have lost alot of confidence and I have worries that he isn't mobile enough to play Midfield in a high paced Championship game.
Sending Mayo down on Sunday would possibly be one of the most satisfying moments in history.
Fr Tod Umptious wrote: » The point is the same, Roscommon cannot relegate Mayo without Monaghan winning.
Fr Tod Umptious wrote: So don't get too excited if Roscommon win until you know the result from Clones.
manofwisdom wrote: » Tim Riggins picking a forward line without Donal Shine,Ultan Harney,Enda Smith,Cian Connolly,Donie Smith highlights the strength in depth Roscommon have now in the forward department however it's defensively where Roscommon lack cover and at the moment the defence lacks structure. A good forward line can win you games but as they say a good defence will win you championships or titles.
manofwisdom wrote: » however it's defensively where Roscommon lack cover and at the moment the defence lacks structure. A good forward line can win you games but as they say a good defence will win you championships or titles.
rossie1977 wrote: » A full toward line of diarmuid murtagh, donie shine and donie smith would have a field-day against our defense
megadodge wrote: » I disagree. Our full-back line is excellent and I'd fancy them to hold that full-forward line. I don't like to criticise amateur players who give so much, but Donie Smith just isn't good enough for inter-county football. There's so much more than skill levels required and he has proven over and over again that he doesn't have the bottle, discipline or physicality at the top level. I'm sorry to say it, but somebody has to. Donie Shine's best position IMO is as a supplimentary midfielder (a deep playing half forward). From there he can be very useful for kickouts and his kick passing to the inside line is top-notch. The Fermanagh game last year proved this beyond any doubt. I think he's a bit too one-dimensional at full-forward and when there he seems to think he absolutely HAS to shoot no matter what.
rossie1977 wrote: » League is completely different than championship though. Sure those guys could score 4-5 points from play but they could easily not score. Devaney has been frustratingly inconsistent in the championship, great one day and then missing next 3. senans been hit and miss, cathal cregg ends up closer to his own goal in many championship games and fintan is untested at that level Those 6 together would be a little lightweight at championship level especially the way mayo play in Connacht bringing the o'shea brothers back to defend Of course he will. We easily forget donie played his best football under fod, scoring 18 points in 2 Connacht finals and winning all Ireland minor. It's funny you mentioned the guys above but it was donie, not devaney or senan or cathal cregg who was a consistent scorer under o donnell. Donie is 4 years younger than senan and offers you more seeing as he can play in 3 positions. A fully fit on form donie starts at full forward under fod I bet Really? Wouldn't even register for me.
Syferus wrote: » Barely got to see Donie with his injury. Bit OTT writing him off like that to say the least. He's like an inside line version of his brother. Fast, good scorer and a lovely striker of the ball. He was one of the very best underage players we've produced and has even been our top scorer in the league as recently as 2013 so excuse the management if they keep him around. I'd say if he was fit for the league he'd have pushed Connolly very hard for the 13 jersey. Donie Shine's best position is FF. Midfield doesn't suit him as much as Cathal Shine and putting him on a CHB is a serious worry defensively. At midfield I'd have Compton, Kilbride, Fintan and Cathal Shine and Higgins when fit ahead of him. Thomas Corcoran I have high hopes for too. At FF it's between him and Senan, maybe Harney but I think his best position is CHF not FF.
TimRiggins wrote: » I think any quality FB would be able to handly Donie Shine pretty easy nowadays. You guys seem to have alot more faith in him then me, but the only place where I see a future for him is coming in as a 3rd midfielder from half forward as megadodge said or competing for the midfield spots.
Syferus wrote: » Barely got to see Donie with his injury. Bit OTT writing him off like that to say the least. He's like an inside line version of his brother. Fast, good scorer and a lovely striker of the ball. He was one of the very best most skilful underage players we've produced and has even been our top scorer in the league as recently as 2013 so excuse the management if they keep him around. I'd say if he was fit for the league he'd have pushed Connolly very hard for the 13 jersey.
Syferus wrote: » Why would any FB be able to handle him easily? Good in the air, can turn and shoot and has good vision. None of that has changed in the last six months. At CF as you're suggesting his lack of speed would be exposed far more and he'd have to mark a player he probably isn't fit to and we'd be getting an extra player thundering down the central channel at our defence. Much like AOS in Mayo, with Donie you have to be very careful with the match-ups as I've seen big lads like Donie and AOS burnt so many times on the defensive it's not even funny.
Mexcanelo wrote: » Got the tickets today for Sunday. Heading down from Meath to see this one. Should be a great game. Come on the Rossies. Prediction Roscommon by 7 or 8 points.
Mexcanelo wrote: » Why wouldn't I go? £10 tickets to see Roscommon relegate thoes Mayo bastards. I wouldn't miss that. If anything I'm being conservative in my prediction. This is not going to go well for Mayo.
Fr Tod Umptious wrote: » You need Monaghan to win to relegate those Mayo bastards. Remember that. Roscommon can't do it on their own no matter how much their fans would like to. So even though your £10 will get you a hard nosed game of ball and perhaps a Roscommon win, it is not guaranteed to get you the relegation you so much desire.
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